Brand New New Stealth Tactic?

[rio382]

Hey how about this?

User Agent Switcher

I run firefox and when Im making new stealths as we already know what ever browser we user its read on any web site you visit.

So the sites know automaticaly what browser you are using.

So when making stealths an added layer of fuzz for EB/PP is that I can mimic and send any version of any browser to them like Im on an Iphone or mac or a flavour of Linux ect....but im still on my original browser and no need for having various browsers installed.

im asking the pro stealthers if they have tried this method and anyone else?

[JamesNorth101]

Interesting. I have for the last few years used chrome and had no issues with EB PP, even if chrome is a bit buggy sometimes.

I personally think this solve a non existent issue. Interesting none the less though

[rsot]

Interesting idea - eB/pp don't need this level of encryption/spoof yet however it may work for other platforms we know and love...Amazon?

I wonder if these platforms can see through this though

[GreenBean]

Interesting idea.

tin foil hats inc.

[Mr. Invisible]

It's overkill for Ebay, but I use a Firefox plugin to set different resolution, timezone, OS & browser version for all my accounts anyway. Future proof lol

As for amazon...

user accounts/virtual + New IP + user agent switcher (w/ plugin & font detection block, resolution & timezone settings) = as good as new computer

[rsot]

Font detection block - interesting

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible

It's overkill for Ebay, but I use a Firefox plugin to set different resolution, timezone, OS & browser version for all my accounts anyway. Future proof lol

As for amazon...

user accounts/virtual + New IP + user agent switcher (w/ plugin & font detection block, resolution & timezone settings) = as good as new computer

Nifty these

[Mr. Invisible]

BTW the firefox plugin is... firegloves

[rio382]

Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible

It's overkill for Ebay, but I use a Firefox plugin to set different resolution, timezone, OS & browser version for all my accounts anyway. Future proof lol

As for amazon...

user accounts/virtual + New IP + user agent switcher (w/ plugin & font detection block, resolution & timezone settings) = as good as new computer

What about language change? I see the entry box can it be changed to anything?

The TimeZone is a very important one :-) well for making stealthers outside our home base.... very good!

I have been looking for this also.

That might be a reason for non English based country's where stealthers setup acc's in other country's say like China based stealther setting up a usa acc and getting linked?

Its one more layer of stealth security thats better than none..surely?

I use the TOR browser [google TOR Project its interesting :-) ]for research on EB looking at competitors ect but it has NO plugins for optimal security but it might have Firegloves built in and compiled into the setup when installing.

[GreenBean]

Be mindful of TOR if operating an ebay/paypal account.

[slapped]

For Amazon, ALL of these issues should be addressed when you Create and set up your VM,,if you are doing things properly,,you are creating 1 VM for 1 Amazon,,,so when you set up EACH VM, the Real trick is to use Different Operating Systems and Browser combinations, Each with their own Font/Screen/Desktop/time settings, this will create different User ID Strings, and Different "Browser Fingerprints",,,all of what is being discussed in this thread is useful if you intend to use the Same Operating system and Browser for Every one of your Virtual machines,,,with the ABUNDANCES of places where you can download ANY Operating system and with all of FREE browsers available EACH in several different Versions, my advice would be to do a little extra work BUT,,,create a FAR more effective VM

[Mr. Invisible]

Originally Posted by rio382

What about language change? I see the entry box can it be changed to anything?

The TimeZone is a very important one :-) well for making stealthers outside our home base.... very good!

I have been looking for this also.

That might be a reason for non English based country's where stealthers setup acc's in other country's say like China based stealther setting up a usa acc and getting linked?

Its one more layer of stealth security thats better than none..surely?

I use the TOR browser [google TOR Project its interesting :-) ]for research on EB looking at competitors ect but it has NO plugins for optimal security but it might have Firegloves built in and compiled into the setup when installing.

look up some user agents strings.... you will see the different language codes

timezone... 4 = est, 5 = cen, 6 = mount, 7 = 420 = pst
Res... 1366x768, 1024x768, 1280x800, 1280x1024, 1440x900
os... mac osx, xp, vista, win 7, win 7 64 bit, win 8, win 8 64 bit
browser... opera, safari, IE, chrome

The combinations are endless, no 2 computers should look a like. But again, for now this is overkill for ebay.

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible

The combinations are endless, no 2 computers should look a like. But again, for now this is overkill for ebay.

When you are stealth, it often pays to make those subtle differences.

I would rather have overkill on ebay than suspension notices.

As for amazon, I work it to its limits.

[rsot]

Timezone change - didnt figure it would make difference like that but sounds decent

[rio382]

Originally Posted by GreenBean™

Be mindful of TOR if operating an ebay/paypal account.

are you saying TOR is not Stealthy enough?

[rio382]

Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible

look up some user agents strings.... you will see the different language codes

timezone... 4 = est, 5 = cen, 6 = mount, 7 = 420 = pst
Res... 1366x768, 1024x768, 1280x800, 1280x1024, 1440x900
os... mac osx, xp, vista, win 7, win 7 64 bit, win 8, win 8 64 bit
browser... opera, safari, IE, chrome

The combinations are endless, no 2 computers should look a like. But again, for now this is overkill for ebay.

Why not use it if its there? We can become complacent but I rather use what I can get to have a less chance of getting busted again.

If EB/PP starts using this against users then someone may loose out if they never applied these tactics.

Better safe than sorry I think, we never know what might change?

Are we not to be 1 step ahead at all times?

[rsot]

Originally Posted by rio382

are you saying TOR is not Stealthy enough?

The issue is not about stealth on TOR, the issue is the TOR program itself - some platforms can detect that you are using TOR so flags go up! TOR means that the user is trying to "hide" so the platforms flag = User is trying to hide so it leads to problems.

[slapped]

Originally Posted by rio382

are you saying TOR is not Stealthy enough?

No,,,What she is Saying is that TOR is Like a "Here I am Come Suspend me Beacon"--------------it is VERY Easy to Detect TOR

[rio382]

Originally Posted by rsot

The issue is not about stealth on TOR, the issue is the TOR program itself - some platforms can detect that you are using TOR so flags go up! TOR means that the user is trying to "hide" so the platforms flag = User is trying to hide so it leads to problems.

OK got it!

Will look into TOR and see if it shows as TOR on visiting web site or a variation of FireFox as it is Firefox.

[MM78]

Originally Posted by rio382

OK got it!

Will look into TOR and see if it shows as TOR on visiting web site or a variation of FireFox as it is Firefox.

The problem with TOR is that your using someone ELSE's IP address...which you have no idea if that IP has already been banned by Ebay.

Advice to everyone, If you plan on using something like TOR, please look into deeply before even thinking of using it.

[Sandy D]

Way too risky and not worth the hassle.

Unless someone wants to risk an account and see how long it last before a banned IP comes up.

[danshan]

LOL TOR is used about a million times a day from all over the world to create all kinds of accounts by thousands of users and guess what a big chunk of those accounts created are BS. Say TOR has 100 US exit nodes and 5,000 worldwide users creating US accounts. What do you think your chances of having a successful experience are? Tor is easily detectable and really easy to block since they post a list of their exit nodes on about 1000 sites. I would say very stealthy, nothing more stealthy to hide you but simplest thing out there to detect it is not your true IP.

Was that clear probably not LOL