| | | ash213 | 09-22-2014 03:58 PM | Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Need to open a stealth Etsy ASAP.
But need to use the Direct Checkout feature.
How do i go about doing this with Etsy? Will they let me do it with dodgy name, address but a legit bank number etc?
Thanks . |
| novemberrain1970 | 09-22-2014 07:17 PM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. I have no idea as you are not in US. In US not possible. I don't use DC and it all works out fine for me so maybe not using it is an option? |
| ash213 | 09-23-2014 01:44 AM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. 90% of my customers on my other etsy used direct check out over PayPal so I need it running on the new account.
If anyone else has some advice please advice.
I can use stealth details with a legit bank number but I know they always ask you to send in some ID to verify you for DC.
Will all be OK? A little worried but need something running asap.
Thanks |
| unkown5454 | 09-23-2014 03:10 AM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. You can do whatever you want.
The issue is that they will try to verify your identity. In the USA, they use SSN. So, we can't work around that. In the UK, how do they identify an individual? This is what you need to learn. |
| ash213 | 09-23-2014 05:51 AM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. I am not sure.
All i know is that on other Direct Checkout account they asked me to email a copy of my ID then within minutes they verified my account and all was ok.
Can i register as a business instead? or even if i do that, would i need to provide personal details?
Thanks |
| dcbshowstopper | 09-23-2014 12:18 PM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. I'm wondering about this as well. When my last shop was closed, I used my info for direct checkout. This time I'm using my dad's address with my wife's info. What I want to know is if I use my wife's ssc for direct checkout, will they link it back to our address that was used on the banned account? |
| unkown5454 | 09-23-2014 02:16 PM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Ok, so then they are looking for a name and address to match exactly what is listed on the account using your ID. I'm assuming whatever you submit will need to have an ID to prove it. If it matches your banned account, of course they will deny you. |
| ash213 | 09-23-2014 03:42 PM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Quote:
Originally Posted by unkown5454
(Post 590634)
Ok, so then they are looking for a name and address to match exactly what is listed on the account using your ID. I'm assuming whatever you submit will need to have an ID to prove it. If it matches your banned account, of course they will deny you. | hey,
of course fresh details, nothing linked to old account.
i was just wondering if they're ID team losely look at the ID like pp do, lol!
oh well. sent them the ID now...hopefully gets approved.
need then DC on the go. |
| blueuk | 09-23-2014 04:40 PM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Let us know how you get on! |
| unkown5454 | 09-23-2014 09:59 PM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. So, you sent the original banned ID, but new banking details?
I doubt it will get approved. But, definitely let us know how they respond. |
| unkown5454 | 09-23-2014 10:01 PM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Quote:
Originally Posted by dcbshowstopper
(Post 590613)
I'm wondering about this as well. When my last shop was closed, I used my info for direct checkout. This time I'm using my dad's address with my wife's info. What I want to know is if I use my wife's ssc for direct checkout, will they link it back to our address that was used on the banned account? | I believe they are only checking to see if you SSN matches the name provided. But, it's not something I mess with. Most of us use PP only because of how easy it is to just keep creating new email addresses for payment. |
| ash213 | 09-24-2014 02:56 AM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Quote:
Originally Posted by unkown5454
(Post 590709)
So, you sent the original banned ID, but new banking details?
I doubt it will get approved. But, definitely let us know how they respond. | no of course not.
fresh name, address, bank, cc, etc.
with new id matching that name , address.
just hope they accept the id as it isn't the greatest.
have not had a reply yet. |
Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Quote:
Originally Posted by ash213
(Post 590756)
no of course not.
fresh name, address, bank, cc, etc.
with new id matching that name , address.
just hope they accept the id as it isn't the greatest.
have not had a reply yet. | Best of luck - hope it works out |
| ash213 | 09-24-2014 09:33 AM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. still no reply, soon it will be 24 hours.
on my first account they verified my id within 5 minutes.
odd. |
| dcbshowstopper | 09-25-2014 12:43 AM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Quote:
Originally Posted by unkown5454
(Post 590710)
I believe they are only checking to see if you SSN matches the name provided. But, it's not something I mess with. Most of us use PP only because of how easy it is to just keep creating new email addresses for payment. | I was thinking this as well, but when I went to put in the info I read something that stated "For your protection, we may verify your identity with a secure third–party service." This had me thinking that the verification may pull up the original address. I will have to roll with Paypal if that's the only way but I used to make a lot of money through DC so if I can work my way around it that would be great. |
| unkown5454 | 09-25-2014 01:16 AM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Quote:
Originally Posted by dcbshowstopper
(Post 591168)
I was thinking this as well, but when I went to put in the info I read something that stated "For your protection, we may verify your identity with a secure third–party service." This had me thinking that the verification may pull up the original address. I will have to roll with Paypal if that's the only way but I used to make a lot of money through DC so if I can work my way around it that would be great. | Have they still not responded to your new submission with the new info? |
| dcbshowstopper | 09-25-2014 09:19 AM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. I haven't submitted the info yet. I got to that part and decided not to go through with it. I guess I may as well, though, since I only put up 45 items. I'm guessing it would take a lot of work to link the old address anyway since they are using a 3rd party vendor to just verify identity. They only ask for the last four digits of the social to start out. Don't know how much they can pull up with just that. As far as the bank account goes I just plan on using one of my bank accounts that I have never used on etsy and just enter my wife's name as the account holder. I'm hoping that will work. |
| dcbshowstopper | 09-25-2014 09:39 AM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Another question. How does it work when we pay etsy with our PayPal account? I plan on opening another account, but I plan on setting up a new PayPal account with my legit info since I have no problems with them. I notice that when I get paid through PayPal my email will read "you just received a payment from" and will list peoples' names. I'm guessing this isn't a problem? |
| novemberrain1970 | 09-25-2014 10:26 AM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Quote:
Originally Posted by dcbshowstopper
(Post 591374)
Another question. How does it work when we pay etsy with our PayPal account? I plan on opening another account, but I plan on setting up a new PayPal account with my legit info since I have no problems with them. I notice that when I get paid through PayPal my email will read "you just received a payment from" and will list peoples' names. I'm guessing this isn't a problem? | If you are banned, it's a problem. I only do that with PayPal stealths where the name matches. Otherwise it is a Visa gift card with matching details. It is a pain but a cost of doing business. |
| dcbshowstopper | 09-25-2014 11:52 AM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Hmmmm, I'm wondering how that works for PayPal business accounts. I notice when I print off labels there my return address has the business address. In another PayPal account of mine (personal account), the return address has my actual name on it. |
| dcbshowstopper | 09-25-2014 12:06 PM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. I just checked an old invoice for a payment I made to PayPal a couple of months ago. It said "Hello business name, you sent a payment of $x to Etsy, Inc." For my personal account it says the same thing but included my personal name, so I'm thinking it's ok as long as you are using a business name for your PayPal account. If that's is incorrect, let me know. |
| novemberrain1970 | 09-25-2014 03:27 PM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Problem with this is if you have more than one stealth Etsy using different emails on the same PP - then you would be linked if you paid using the same PP. As for what else they see (address, etc.) I honestly do not know. |
| dcbshowstopper | 09-25-2014 04:08 PM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Normally when receiving a payment from a buyer etsy only lets me know who the payment came from. They don't give me any other particulars outside of the transaction. I set up different PayPal accounts for different shops. Before I was banned I had two different Paypal accounts for two different etsy shops. I use them now for my ebay shops while I set up a new one for the stealth etsy account and everything is working out. |
| dcbshowstopper | 09-25-2014 04:18 PM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. UPDATE: I just contacted PayPal and was advised that if you have a business account they only refer to your business name when it comes to transactions with other companies. They will only use your real name when communicating with you. My advice would be to set up a business account which is free whether you decide to use stealth PayPal or not. |
| unkown5454 | 09-25-2014 09:39 PM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. I just pay my fees with random prepaid visas. But, it's good to know there are options. |
| ovidiu | 09-26-2014 02:32 AM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Just so everyone knows, when etsy says "we may check your info with a 3rd party", they mean "we WILL check your info with a third party". There is NO way around this. etsy direct checkout is EXACTLY like using a merchant account...I sure as heck don't know of anyone who has used stealth info to open a merchant account and gotten away with it. etsy is likely required by federal law to verify all info you send them to open DC. |
| ash213 | 09-26-2014 03:07 AM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. guys
just an update,
i am still waiting for etsy to verify my ID for DC on my stealth account.
as it has been three days i decided to open another stealth account.
- new name
- new address
- new bank
- new everything
- etc
- linked a vcc for the credit card bit for fee paying
went through the steps, set up DC, and they are not asking me for any ID and have set up around 2-300 listings.
Praise the lord.
Business could be back on track?
maybe the address looked better , dont know.
Cheers all.
Keep trying.
This is UK by the way. |
| ovidiu | 09-26-2014 03:19 AM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. UK is different, I envy you!
For everyone who has the option (in the USA), I suggest using DC for safe, uncontroversial items that won't get you booted, and stealth accounts for everything else. Cause you only get one go at DC over here. |
| unkown5454 | 09-26-2014 03:31 AM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Wow, what the hell happened? UK is a piece of cake?
I don't want to here any more ste/alth complaints about Et/sy then. I don't know how it could possibly get any easier than being able to use a private payment processor and not even having your identification verified.
Haha, but, we must see how long this lasts before anyone gets too excited about selling in the UK. Who knows...they could ask for verification the minute you try to move the money to your bank account. |
| ovidiu | 09-26-2014 01:55 PM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Lol unknown never said it was a "piece of cake". But it appears that DC is possible in the UK with stealth and it is 100% impossible in the USA. Don't blame people for trying to set it up, it really is a huge chunk of sales for those who have it, I don't begrudge them. |
| dcbshowstopper | 09-26-2014 06:08 PM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. ovidiu, do you think etsy's third party check with my wife's last four digits of her ssc will pull up our home address which was used for our banned account? I used my ssc with the banned accounts. I know how huge those DC sales can be first hand. If I can't use it, then I'm thinking the multiple accounts I set up will make up for the lost profits some. Before I was banned I only stuck with a couple of accounts because business was booming. |
| biglouis999 | 09-27-2014 06:50 AM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. I opened a Direct Checkout on Etsy last year. They did not ask me to provide any ID but they did ask me to fill in the form with the exact name that was on the bank account. The verification took about 3/4 days (all the info was 100% genuine).
So I guess you would need to open a new bank account etc.
With regard to paying Etsy bills once you have DC you can use funds in your DC account (rather than Paypal) to pay their bills, as well as another registered credit or debit card. In fact this option is first on the list.
Organizations like Paypal and Etsy cant ask for your SSN in the UK. However they could (as I believe Amazon now do) as for your tax ID if you want to register as a company. |
| ovidiu | 09-28-2014 03:55 AM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Dcbshowstopper,
they run a deep search like if you were to apply for a bank account or merchant account. All info is verified and you can't fudge it. |
| dcbshowstopper | 09-28-2014 07:11 PM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Gotcha, thanks. I guess we're stuck with just PayPal for the time being, then. |
| ash213 | 10-03-2014 05:07 AM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. i got a uk account verified with direct checkout with a stealth details, stealth id, entropay credit card and new bank etc. |
| dcbshowstopper | 10-04-2014 11:38 AM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. That's excellent. We see it can be done overseas, now we have to figure out a way to get it done in the U.S. |
| macbook | 02-14-2015 10:58 PM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Quote:
Originally Posted by unkown5454
(Post 591715)
I just pay my fees with random prepaid visas. But, it's good to know there are options. | Not to bring up an old thread.... But you must have a unique pp per stealth Ets.y - When the payment completes thru PP your merchant token is revealed to Ets.y - this token is unique to your ACCOUNT. Thus, using the same PP account will link your Ets.y accounts.
This is tried and true and for certain. |
| macbook | 02-14-2015 11:08 PM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Quote:
Originally Posted by ash213
(Post 594263)
i got a uk account verified with direct checkout with a stealth details, stealth id, entropay credit card and new bank etc. | Well since, DC appears to work for UK with stealth... Whos to say it doesnt work then in Canada, Germany and more..... which begs the question, Does your bank account have to be in the same country as "you" Per the rules it just says you must have a bank account in one of the listed countries.
For instance, PP allows CA accounts to use a US bank. whos to say Ets.y doesnt do the same. Does a stealth CA PP circumvent a requirement for ssn or tid# over 20k. Why yes it does... |
| biglouis999 | 02-16-2015 12:07 PM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. I have recently opened another shop on E--y with a stealth account - its always as well to have a shop in reserve.
I used my nephews bank account, debit card and address/name details. I know this is not advised but he has no intention of ever selling anything online and certainly not on E--y.
During the setting up process I got one of the bank details slightly wrong and it seemed to know right away so I stopped the setup and did it again when he was with me. It went through immediately.
I had got the sort code (routing number) wrong. These numbers are instantly checkable in the UK. If you go to make a payment to another bank account with incorrect details it immediately bounces back to you account and shows up as "failed payment to XXX"
I pay the shop fees with money thats in the shop account and of course all the money goes into HIS bank account or Payal account. However as I already pay him for certain jobs he does for me (accounts, techie stuff) thats ok. If there is an excess he transfers it back to my bank. We have one anothers bank details anyway.
Needless to say I dont log into the shop from my normal ISP (Im on BT Business) I use a T Mobile dongle. I also have a machine with Firefox set to delete all cookies when I end a session. |
| unkown5454 | 02-16-2015 01:57 PM | Re: Stealth Etsy - Direct checkout. Deleting cookies and using your relatives info is not really stea.lthing. But, if that's working for you, oh well. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:13 AM. | |
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