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| jojo2012 | 02-09-2017 07:03 PM |
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Originally Posted by slokor
(Post 829269)
To make things more accurate - The rate of unemployment when Obama was elected was 6.5%. The rate of Underemployment which is a better tool to assess the strength (or weakness) of the Labor market was 11.8%.
Those are FACTS. Those are cold hard numbers that no matter how much you try to twist around are on the record by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Or would you like to present us with some 'alternative facts again'?
Ya. IM the moron. And jojo2012 youre the smart one.
| http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/record-95102000-americans-not-labor-force-number-grew-18-obama-took-office
https://www.google.com/amp/freebeacon.com/issues/obama-economy-9-9-million-employed-14-6-million-left-labor-force/amp/
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/30/no-obama-you-presided-over-loss-manufacturing-jobs/ |
| jojo2012 | 02-09-2017 07:10 PM |
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Oh Jojo, here's something to read: Intel gives Trump credit for $7bn US factory it announced under Obama https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...bama?CMP=fb_gu Quote:
Intel CEO Brian Krzanich was none too pleased to take part in the dog-and-pony show. “In a media-attended Oval Office meeting, Intel’s Brian Krzanich stood next to Trump and declared, with all the conviction of a hostage making a false confession, that the investment was a response to Trump’s business-friendly policies” writes the Guardian.
“It’s in support of the tax and regulatory policies that we see the administration pushing forward that really make it advantageous to do manufacturing in the US” said Krzanich.
But in reality, the Fab 42 factory in Arizona was originally announced in 2011 and has been a dormant project since 2014. Intel, knowing they could extract some tax breaks from Trump in exchange for doing what they were already planning to do, is playing Trump for a fool.
However, the semiconductor company had already announced the same factory back in 2011 when Barack Obama was in power. In 2012, Obama made a speech in front of the building, describing it – to a cheering crowd – as an “example of an America that attracts the next generation of good manufacturing jobs”.
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| slokor | 02-09-2017 07:28 PM |
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LOL.
Youre a joke man. No matter what the facts are youll always spit at them.
Whatever. Enjoy your so called president as he destroys the nation.
Next youre going to tell me the country is united around him. I dont think the country has been more divided since the civil war. Or is that another thing youll disagree on.
Dont bother responding - of course you will. |
| slokor | 02-09-2017 07:34 PM |
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| You dont really expect jojo to acknowledge this or admit to the facts do you? |
| jojo2012 | 02-09-2017 07:52 PM |
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Originally Posted by MM78
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You & your liberal news articles leaving out facts,
like the fact that they abandoned the project in 2014. (Due to a sluggish economy )
And NOW have confidence to complete the project & still plan to invest 7 billion, 3000 jobs & 10,000 support jobs |
| jojo2012 | 02-09-2017 07:55 PM |
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Originally Posted by slokor
(Post 829283)
You dont really expect jojo to acknowledge this or admit to the facts do you?
| You mean the fact that your liberal articles leave out the most important facts😂😂😂😂😂 |
| yotano211 | 02-09-2017 07:56 PM |
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I have said it a few days ago, that Intel's meeting with Trump was nothing but a PR stunt on Intel's part. And that no company is going to do expansion if the laws are not in place.
Its not Trumps fault, it was the fault of Intel. Intel said the same thing to the last administration and now to the current one. But overall Trump wanted a media storm so it looks like he is doing something in which he is but Intel and Trump just wanted media attention. Trump is still the bigger media whore. |
| jojo2012 | 02-09-2017 07:57 PM |
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| yotano211 | 02-09-2017 08:25 PM |
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It still doesnt make sense, even if you post the same stuff that was posted many days ago. You still dont know how business works and Intel didnt say that they will layoff over 10k people to make up for those 3k new hires.
Even you know jojo that Intel and Trump just wanted to be media whores for the day. |
| slokor | 02-09-2017 08:28 PM |
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So jojo is the country United? Is trump working to bridge the gaps between the opposing groups in our society?
Im going to guess your answer. Doesnt take a genius to know what YOU are going to say. |
| jojo2012 | 02-09-2017 08:32 PM |
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Originally Posted by yotano211
(Post 829291)
It still doesnt make sense, even if you post the same stuff that was posted many days ago. You still dont seem how business works and Intel didnt say that they will layoff over 10k people to make up for those 3k new hires.
Even you know jojo that Intel and Trump just wanted to be media whores for the day.
| Lay off somewhere else, not in USA!
See under Trump the USA gains jobs under obama China gains jobs, USA loses jobs.
see the difference? |
| yotano211 | 02-09-2017 08:37 PM |
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Originally Posted by jojo2012
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| Nothing new about transistors getting smaller and smaller, when Intel switched from 32nm to 22nm transistor size they had to hire more engineers for the smaller transistors.
The 22nm was over 6 months behind schedule, when Intel switched to 14nm that trasnitor tech was over a year behind schedule. With the 10nm size, rumors are that Intel will be even more behind schedule.
AMD does the same thing, when they had their own FAB factories they hired more employees with each new smaller transistor technology. Today AMD deosnt make their own processors, they hire a foreign company to make their silicone wafers for them. The companies that make AMD's processors are the ones that hire more people.
But overall advanced manufacturing is being done by more and more robots. |
| jojo2012 | 02-09-2017 08:48 PM |
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Originally Posted by slokor
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So jojo is the country United? Is trump working to bridge the gaps between the opposing groups in our society?
Im going to guess your answer. Doesnt take a genius to know what YOU are going to say.
| What about the opposition for the last 8 yrs? Race relations became much worse under obama! Even though liberals told us how much it would improve. Where was the inclusiveness? Where was the unification?
we didn't riot in the street, loot, wear vagina costumes & threaten to blow up the White House .
Difference is children now expect to "win" and are whinning that there candidate lost. They can't handle it & they're used to getting what they want so they are throwing tantrums.
The adults are back in charge, & we are sick of political correctness especially when it's hurting the country. |
| yotano211 | 02-09-2017 08:50 PM |
Re: Watching Trump's inauguration
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Originally Posted by jojo2012
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Lay off somewhere else, not in USA!
See under Trump the USA gains jobs under obama China gains jobs, USA loses jobs.
see the difference?
| Every country in the world is losing jobs, since more robots are making more things today than people did 50 years ago. Even China is going robotic, those jobs that make your iphone are made by Foxconn over in China. Foxconn has said many times that in the future they will hire less and more robots will make electronic components.
All HAIL our robotic overlords |
| slokor | 02-09-2017 09:00 PM |
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Like I said - didnt take a genius to figure out your answer.
Who needs to truth when we have alternative facts and tweeter.
Note that you again completely ignored the question and didnt bother answering it. Again I say - get a life. |
| yotano211 | 02-09-2017 09:03 PM |
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I think jojo comes from the special place in the hospital, you know the place for people with extra chromosomes. |
| jojo2012 | 02-09-2017 09:27 PM |
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Originally Posted by slokor
(Post 829292)
So jojo is the country United? Is trump working to bridge the gaps between the opposing groups in our society?
Im going to guess your answer. Doesnt take a genius to know what YOU are going to say.
| I answered, opposing groups are CHOOSING to be & feel opposed,they are choosing to feel marginalized.
the media is creating false narratives, creating hysteria where it's not warranted. They & "celebrities" are churning up anger , hostility & fear . They are pointing fingers & yelling racist because it gets them attention & they should be ashamed!
It's all bs. EVERY white republican running for office or concidered for high cabinet positions is called a racist, white supremacist, nationalist & accused of being a member of the kkk, Every time a liberal looses an argument (which is often) they call the opposition racist. |
| slokor | 02-09-2017 09:58 PM |
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The media is creating the hysteria? not Trump with his scare tactics and hate and fear mongering? right....
And you STILL are ignoring the question. Trump has done so much to try to bridge the gap? Show me a single thing he has tried to do in that direction.
And on your last statement I call total BS. Youre full of it. Plenty of decent people in the Republican party. Unfortunately Trump is NOT one of them. Hes not qualified to be called a Republican. Hell hes not even fit to be called a politician. Hes a reality TV star - and he never stopped being one even after being elected. Anything you say to the contrary is - you guessed it - a load of horse$hit, |
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| jojo2012 | 02-09-2017 10:10 PM |
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Originally Posted by slokor
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The media is creating the hysteria? not Trump with his scare tactics and hate and fear mongering? right....
And you STILL are ignoring the question. Trump has done so much to try to bridge the gap? Show me a single thing he has tried to do in that direction.
And on your last statement I call total BS. Youre full of it. Plenty of decent people in the Republican party. Unfortunately Trump is NOT one of them. Hes not qualified to be called a Republican. Hell hes not even fit to be called a politician. Hes a reality TV star - and he never stopped being one even after being elected. Anything you say to the contrary is - you guessed it - a load of horse$hit,
| He's only had a couple weeks, what did obama do to "bridge gaps" how are democrats helping? They make false accusations every day!
under the first African American president race relations got worse he poured salt on wounds. & it even became ok to chant that you Want to kill cops! And he defended them!
Trump is not the problem Liberal mentality is the problem! |
| jojo2012 | 02-09-2017 10:13 PM |
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Originally Posted by MM78
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| What's wrong? Not liking that I keep proving your leftist articles wrong?
Lets me give you some advice, when you are proven wrong, stop. |
Re: Watching Trump's inauguration
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Originally Posted by jojo2012
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What's wrong? Not liking that I keep proving your leftist articles wrong?
| When did this happen? lol, I must of missed it since all I have done since this all started was to fact check you. Quote:
Lets me give you some advice, when you are proven wrong, stop.
| I proved you wrong a long-@ss time ago, but yet here we are. |
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Melania is so Patriotic Melania Trump’s lawyers admit she hoped to cash in on being First Lady by selling clothes and fragrances Quote:
Trump's filing claims she "had the unique, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, as an extremely famous and well-known person, as well as a former professional model, brand spokesperson and successful businesswoman, to launch a broad-based commercial brand in multiple product categories, each of which could have garnered multi-million dollar business relationships for a multi-year term during which Plaintiff is one of the most photographed women in the world.”
| Oh My. Quote:
The Emoluments Clause is a U.S. government law that specifically prohibits any leader from using government services to “enrich” the president, his family and the Trump brand.
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| yotano211 | 02-09-2017 10:57 PM |
Re: Watching Trump's inauguration
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Originally Posted by jojo2012
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What's wrong? Not liking that I keep proving your leftist articles wrong?
Lets me give you some advice, when you are proven wrong, stop.
| Dude you havent proven anything right or wrong. You dont know even know how a business runs with that Intel crap.
You only posted some link to a news article on the internet and trying to say that Trump "made" 3k jobs when in fact Intel laid off about 12k employees. The CFO of Intel, something Smith (forgot the 1st name) said that 6k of those will be accomplished by the end of 2016. So I guess the other 6k+ will be accomplished in 2017.
I got that info over 8 months ago, I dont have to search the internet to fact check anything. I once interviewd Mr Smith when I worked over at Morgan Stanley in July of 2006, he became CFO of intel in March or April of 2006. |
| slokor | 02-09-2017 11:10 PM |
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Originally Posted by jojo2012
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He's only had a couple weeks
| Well according to you in those 2 weeks hes already fixed the economy and created thousands of jobs by improving the attitude (?) and atmosphere (?) for businesses to invest in the US.
But he couldn't make a single speech or utter a single word - including in his oh so dark inauguration speech - which try to put some of the bad blood behind us all.
Face it - Trump lives for the ratings. Hes not here for you or me. Hes here for TRUMP. |
| yotano211 | 02-09-2017 11:55 PM |
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Originally Posted by slokor
(Post 829323)
Well according to you in those 2 weeks hes already fixed the economy and created thousands of jobs by improving the attitude (?) and atmosphere (?) for businesses to invest in the US.
But he couldn't make a single speech or utter a single word - including in his oh so dark inauguration speech - which try to put some of the bad blood behind us all.
Face it - Trump lives for the ratings. Hes not here for you or me. Hes here for TRUMP.
| He created about 200k jobs according to jojo and the BLS-Bureau of Labor Statistics
With those numbers even Joseph Stalin approves of those numbers. https://s23.postimg.org/3lcammqaf/65515283.jpg |
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| jojo2012 | 02-10-2017 07:03 AM |
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Originally Posted by yotano211
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Dude you havent proven anything right or wrong. You dont know even know how a business runs with that Intel crap.
You only posted some link to a news article on the internet and trying to say that Trump "made" 3k jobs when in fact Intel laid off about 12k employees. The CFO of Intel, something Smith (forgot the 1st name) said that 6k of those will be accomplished by the end of 2016. So I guess the other 6k+ will be accomplished in 2017.
I got that info over 8 months ago, I dont have to search the internet to fact check anything. I once interviewd Mr Smith when I worked over at Morgan Stanley in July of 2006, he became CFO of intel in March or April of 2006.
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I don't care if you interviewed the pope. The FACT is they gave up on it in 2014 under obamas dismal & restrictive economy .
Now that trump is president they regained confidence & are making a bigger & better investment than before that's their CEO's words
And no I don't believe you over intel's CEO, I seriously doubt you know more about micro chips than intel.
https://arstechnica.com/business/2017/02/intel-will-invest-7-billion-to-finish-a-factory-it-started-in-2011/ |
| jojo2012 | 02-10-2017 07:08 AM |
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Originally Posted by slokor
(Post 829323)
Well according to you in those 2 weeks hes already fixed the economy and created thousands of jobs by improving the attitude (?) and atmosphere (?) for businesses to invest in the US.
But he couldn't make a single speech or utter a single word - including in his oh so dark inauguration speech - which try to put some of the bad blood behind us all.
Face it - Trump lives for the ratings. Hes not here for you or me. Hes here for TRUMP.
| You heard a dark speech ( no doubt your just repeating what You heard on the news) try forming your own opinion
I heard a very positive hopeful speech |
| jojo2012 | 02-10-2017 07:10 AM |
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Originally Posted by MM78
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When did this happen? lol, I must of missed it since all I have done since this all started was to fact check you.
I proved you wrong a long-@ss time ago, but yet here we are.
| When? This was the last time. You can't win an argument when you are Wrong
https://arstechnica.com/business/2017/02/intel-will-invest-7-billion-to-finish-a-factory-it-started-in-2011/ |
| ilcarletto | 02-10-2017 07:52 AM |
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| Right....You know why I like you Jojo? because even though I have fact checked you a few dozen times you keep coming back for more.
Let's Quote from your own article, ok? Quote:
The main building was completed right down to its heating and air conditioning systems, but in 2014, Intel announced amid a downturn in PC sales.
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New manufacturing processes take years to get going
| So please stop giving Trump so much damn credit. The only reason Intel is laying down with Trump is for the Tax Breaks. You think Intel is somehow faithful to the US? If it was cheaper to make their CPU's on the moon they would relocate there. |
| slokor | 02-10-2017 10:55 AM |
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Originally Posted by jojo2012
(Post 829389)
You heard a dark speech ( no doubt your just repeating what You heard on the news) try forming your own opinion
I heard a very positive hopeful speech
| And Im the moron. LOL!
That's OK pal. Keep burying your head deep up your own A$$ and keep telling yourself all is well.
Us rationale free thinking people prefer to keep our eyes open to the clear and present danger. |
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Trump $$$ Investment in Dakota Pipeline
LOL, Why am I not surprised. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ort-investment Quote:
A briefing from Trump’s transition team said that the real estate magnate supports the construction of the Dakota Access pipeline and that his backing “has nothing to do with his personal investments and everything to do with promoting policies that benefit all Americans”.
| http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/25/donal...s-concern.html Quote:
President-elect Donald Trump holds stock in the company building the disputed Dakota Access oil pipeline, and pipeline opponents warn that Trump's investments could affect any decision he makes on the $3.8 billion project as president.
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| jojo2012 | 02-10-2017 12:10 PM |
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Originally Posted by MM78
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Right....You know why I like you Jojo? because even though I have fact checked you a few dozen times you keep coming back for more.
Let's Quote from your own article, ok?
So please stop giving Trump so much damn credit. The only reason Intel is laying down with Trump is for the Tax Breaks. You think Intel is somehow faithful to the US? If it was cheaper to make their CPU's on the moon they would relocate there.
| G why do you keep insisting on leaving out the part of the article that prove me right and you're wrong? Let's have a look at the entire paragraph shall we?
Fab 42 was originally announced back in 2011, and then-President Obama spoke there back in 2012. At the time, Intel expected to build 14nm chips there, and it anticipated the facility would be completed at some point in 2013 (PDF). The main building was completed right down to its heating and air conditioning systems, but in 2014, Intel announced amid a downturn in PC sales that it would instead build 14nm chips at existing facilities in Oregon and Arizona. The 1,000 jobs that the facility was supposed to create instead went to those existing factories. Before today, Intel hadn't decisively commented on the facility's fate, but at the time of the cancellation, the company did say that the building would eventually be used.
Are you going to keep denying what is written right above doesn't exist? are you going to keep tell me I'm wrong when you're clearly only giving out the parts that support your argument? I'm done arguing with you guys you're like a bunch of brick walls and you just won't believe the truth
America won!
Liberalism socialism communism lost!
MAGA! |
| jojo2012 | 02-10-2017 12:18 PM |
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Originally Posted by slokor
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And Im the moron. LOL!
That's OK pal. Keep burying your head deep up your own A$$ and keep telling yourself all is well.
Us rationale free thinking people prefer to keep our eyes open to the clear and present danger.
| Really? becauseI heard the exact same narrative coming from every liberal news source I've seen.
The only clear & present danger is uninformed politically correct liberals, and their socialist and communistic agendas and their support of radical Islamic terrorists and sharia law. |
| jojo2012 | 02-10-2017 12:26 PM |
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It's after 12 PM noon, that means Rush Limbaugh is on. I recommend tuning in and learn how to be proud & informed Americans ! |
| slokor | 02-10-2017 12:38 PM |
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Originally Posted by jojo2012
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Really? becauseI heard the exact same narrative coming from every liberal news source I've seen.
The only clear & present danger is uninformed politically correct liberals, and their socialist and communistic agendas and their support of radical Islamic terrorists and sharia law.
| So now Im a terrorist supporting communist.
LOL!!!
Youre freaking delusional man. Stop drinking piss and try - for the love of god - to bring your head out of your own A$$ for at least a few seconds of breathing time every so often you fascist douchebag. |
| empirestate | 02-10-2017 01:47 PM |
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Someone impeach Trump already!!! |
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