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I have been doing a lot of repairs the past couple years, more than I profit. Those repairs take a lot of management.

I have been remodeling a property for the past 6 months. It's nearly done and ready to be rented out. I do this so I don't have to touch it for at least 2-3 years but it's costly and taking a lot of time for now.

Two places need new roofs in the next couple months.

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Ah I see.. Well I guess inadvertently you're increasing the value of the property. Should you sell it, you'll see a big return compared to what you purchased it for, hopefully!

There are those that flip properties for a living. Buying them in dilapidated conditions, renovating them, and then selling it off. Of course you're just doing general maintenance, but should all contribute to the value either way.
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How comes you're not profiting? ... rental income should easily cover mortgage and leave change to spare right?

As for time sap, don't realtors take care of all that?, so in essence you just get a cheque end of each month with a guaranteed/fixed rent rate.

Not sure if all that is different in the US. But in the UK, right location, and you could make a living off of rental income with a few apartments.
In the US, those are called real estate management companies. they usually will charge you about 7-11% of the rent. They charge less if you have more proprieties but that fee is the difference between making any money from the rental property and making nothing.
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Buying them in dilapidated conditions, renovating them, and then selling it off.
Not for the faint of heart - and it's not as glamorous as TV makes it out to be.
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Try to buy a house in the States with cash and see what happens... any deposit over 10K in cash is immediately reported to the IRS and feds by the bank where it is deposited.

Better have a good reason to have that much cash on hand and be able to prove it's legit and taxes were paid on it, or else...

Rentals can be good money, but there's a lot of variables involved.

In our area, properties that sold for 94K 18 months ago are now worth 145K. That's a pretty substantial increase in value for a bit over a year. With a good tenant they're worth even more as an investment.

You can make money on rentals, even with a management company, but it's harder for sure. It all depends on the tenants. A good tenant makes your job easy, bad tenants can ruin you.

I've screened up to 300 applicants for each suitable tenant I found that stays long term and is no trouble and pays promptly.

If you select a good property, pay the right amount, work the front end hard, (screening), the day to day business after that is usually smooth.
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Dallis, you can't tell this guy anything!

We had about 30 rental properties when I was growing up. It's one of the best investments for retirement you can make.(IF you're in a good area, and IF you buy right!)
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lets hope real estate investors will start to accept bitcoin, monero or zcash................then I will just sign the deed over to an LLC.......so government can't seize the house from me

http://abc7news.com/realestate/exper...state/3509391/



http://bitcoin-realestate.com/proper...saint-sauveur/

screw the govt, I had a regular day job and my silent partner uncle sam took 40 percent of my paycheck.......

now I work for myself and I cut out uncle sam and keep 99% of the money.......

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lets hope real estate investors will start to accept bitcoin, monero or zcash................then I will just sign the deed over to an LLC.......so government can't seize the house from me

http://abc7news.com/realestate/exper...state/3509391/



http://bitcoin-realestate.com/proper...saint-sauveur/

screw the govt, I had a regular day job and my silent partner uncle sam took 40 percent of my paycheck.......

now I work for myself and I cut out uncle sam and keep 99% of the money.......
Dude cryptocurrency is pure junk. cryptocurrency will never really take off, too much fighting among each other, the reason why so much coins forks happens every so often. In order for a true currency to happen to needs to be stable. The idea of cryptocurrency is the block-chain technology which I love, it shows lots of promise but not in the cryptocurrency way.
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Dude cryptocurrency is pure junk. cryptocurrency will never really take off, too much fighting among each other, the reason why so much coins forks happens every so often. In order for a true currency to happen to needs to be stable. The idea of cryptocurrency is the block-chain technology which I love, it shows lots of promise but not in the cryptocurrency way.
Tell that to empirestate, yotano
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Tell that to empirestate, yotano
He knows that cryptocurrency is pure junk in the long run. For the short term, I am not saying to profit from it but overall its pure $hit.

In the short term, I made my profits and ran with it until last month when I sold of my graphics cards for more than I paid for them.

Next generation GPUs are rumored to come out in July, I think they will come out closer to September, laptop versions will come out toward the end of the year, closer to December.
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All the money in BC comes from speculation. There's no inherent value in it. It's only electrons crossing a wire somewhere.

Sort of like Uber - hundreds of billions in valuation, but no actual product except a little slip of software almost anyone could create. What actual product exists that creates that value? Nothing but vapor.

At least GM owns buildings and factories and products. There's something tangible there.
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i am not concerned about bitcoin being weak,

just hold money in tether..........then when need to spend move it to bitcoin lol..........so its fairly close to a 1:1 situation when buying the house......
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I want to hear some insight in regards to renting versus mortgaging a house.....

I still rent to this day.....partly because i cannot get a home loan because I am self employed.....and its hard to show documentation for my income.......

some real rich people i know say that you should buy a house in cash. rule of thumb in fact is always buy everything in cash. Renting a house is smarter until you can buy a house in cash because you get freedom as an asset......and dont incur a crazy liability like a huge house loan.

I see people who bought in like many years ago at 300k in hawaii and now their homes are worth 950k if they sold today........

I read just about all the arguments between buying and renting already.....
what do you people believe?
Hi. I totally agree with you, these companies are just mocking people! However, it is still necessary to recognize the fact that the apartment must be bought. In your case, it is best to take mortgage, because it is more profitable than renting. At least personally it was profitable for me to do so in this company Parc Clematis. They had quite cheap apartments compared to competitors, so I decided to try to buy an apartment from this company.

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Hi. I totally agree with you, these companies are just mocking people! However, it is still necessary to recognize the fact that the apartment must be bought. In your case, it is best to take mortgage, because it is more profitable than renting. At least personally it was profitable for me to do so in this company Parc Clematis. They had quite cheap apartments compared to competitors, so I decided to try to buy an apartment from this company.
Interesting - a plug for them?
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Oh yes, let’s buy in Singapore.

Let’s enjoy the political restrictions.

No hamsters, oops, chewing gum.

Nice bump of old thread too.

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Oh yes, let’s buy in Singapore.

Let’s enjoy the political restrictions.

No hamsters, oops, chewing gum.

Nice bump of old thread too.

Political restrictions are where it's at let's get censored...hah
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Rent Till You Find A Suitable Place To Settle Down In
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There is always a good feeling when you own your own home,no one can evict you as long as you can pay the tax and upkeep.
If you do not overextend and buy a modest home,modest relative to your income /networth,all the expenses of maintaining a home do not keep you awake at night or cause you to take out a loan and you do not see yourself moving to a different city or state,or retirement home any time soon,then do it.
With property ownership comes responsibility and additional expenses,it is more than just mortgage,property tax and homeowner insurance.

How about martial law?

you have t o know the neighborhood and you let brokers and friends etc know you are looking,and read newspaper ads etc,it takes time.

buying real estate is not like buying stocks,you cant just call your broker and sell it when the market is open !
and the commission is not $5.95 up to 5000 shares !
and there is property tax,maintenance whether it is occupied or empty.

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That is one good approach as long as you do the proper checks for roommates
if you can put up with non family member using bathroom,their friends visiting and their daily habits !

In some society,you can do quite well,renting an apt and subletting rooms.
Some apts come with enclosed balcony,partition them into 2 rooms,one as living room and one as bedroom for yourself .
Then have the living room /foyer as the common living room for all when they have quests.
Shared bathroom and kitchen,bring your own toilet paper.
You may need more than one fridge,preferably a freezer and a fridge/

During Mardi Gras,Heritage Festival in NEWS ORLEANS,you can rent out your house and apartment easily for $1-5k,go out of town or stay with your friends/
house on the Mardi Gras parade route,apts in or near French Qtr are much sought after

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2 of 2 roommates that subletted charged my new roommate more than they were paying for rent... lol. They made a couple hundred over summer break.

I walked into one of them holding onto his wanker and his personal britafilter in the living room. Turned around and walked back out.
Do they run up your water/electric/gas bills?

It depends on your age ,house is a lot of work and money.
In good days,you need some one to mow your lawn,your water bill is higher.
You pay property tax and if it is a subdivision,annual maintenance fee.
As the house age so do the homeowner,the roof needs to be replaced,check your insurance policy,what is the deductible ,if it is based on a certain percentage of the market value of your house,you could end up paying the whole roof yourself,backyard fence is not covered,so you pay,the fence will rot after 10-15 years.
What about the garage door,after 10-15 years,you may need a new door opener.
water heater last -15 years,time to get a new one if you never flush it,what about A.C,furnace ,electrical wiring?
OH,the water pipes which go from your kitchen and bathroom to the street is your responsibility,if they go bust,you pay a few thousand dollars,so better insure it,4.99 a month..
cinch bugs on your lawn,wasp ,rats,squirrels ,bats in your attic,call the specialist.
and lets not talk about water leakage and mold and mildew,insurance co has special rules on such.
and there are fire ants,ants,wasp,birds,rats,mole,rabbits,squirrels,m ocking birds,sparrows,snakes,frogs,toads,lizards.
I found a baby red eared slider turtle today,lets see if it survives in my homemade water tank?
Now I wish I am just a renter.

dont forget plumber /electrician could charge a fee for coming to your house and charge overtime pay on weekend.
Also the allure of making a killing when you sell your house may not come true in some areas,milenials/yuppies prefer to stay in the city now ,they can ditch their cars or just keep one car not two,take public transportation to work and enjoy fine dining and entertainment ,and big houses in the suburbs become hard to sell

as middle class expands,the idea of homeownership wil become more popular,

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But is the middle class expanding or the lower class expanding?
HE IS asking about Africa,I WOULD Think most of the population have no place to go but UP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Do you know cocoa market?2 Countries in Africa which are responsible for 60% of all the cocoa in the world are now raising prices to boost the income of their farmers,they were living on $3 a day.
THEY ARE adding $400 per ton levy to help the farmers live a better life.

A good apt building with 4 units and minimum outdoor maintenance.in a middle class neighborhood.
It should produce enough income to pay the mortgage,insurance and someone to fix./replace what ever goes wrong,unless you like to do it yourself.
A house does not make good rental,too much can go wrong,it is good for the tenant but not the landlord,unless he plans to flip it someday!

THis is an old thread,you are in US,your banker would tell you what theyneed to see and your realtor broker will help you

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No hamsters, oops, chewing gum.
You can chew gum out there! Just need a licence for it

It is pretty spotless as a city so its not the worst idea in the world really
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ha!

I bought a 3plex a couple years ago and lived in one part of it for about a year..

I paid $390k for it; it's worth a little over $500 now and because I lived in it I fixed it up myself and now that I moved out I'm ready to rent out the open unit.

It makes more money than it costs; it's in a great neighborhood. It was a good investment but I got lucky with it.

The longer I have it the more I will be making from it.
How do you find places like this?
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There is no best answer for the question is it better to Rent to Buy.

It all comes down to ones own situation.

Owning property comes with a lot of responsibility and cons:

Large financial commitment (i.e. Mortgage or Cash)
Responsible for Property Taxes
Responsible for Insurance
Responsible for maintenance
Limited recourse if there's a problem (crime, noisy neighbors, etc)

When Renting the above items are mainly a non-issue.

I rented a townhouse a couple years ago in the Philippines and found out it was only 10 meters from a major road after moving in. The noise was so bad it caused the building to shake, pictures to come down from the wall, not to mention making it nearly impossible to sleep. Since I was a renter on a month-to-month agreement, I promptly moved out to another place. Problem solved.

If I had bought this property without doing my due diligence, I would be stuck with a very expensive lemon of a house. In some overseas countries, particularly ones in Asia, many legal remedies to deal with this don't exist like they do in USA. For example, if you have a barking dog, you can involve the authorities. In Philippines or Thailand, the police are unlikely to do anything unless you pay them.

With Renting you can be mobile and movable quickly; you have options not easily available to those that are stuck owing a properly. Relocating as a homeowner is both time consuming, and expensive.

OTOH, buying a home for some people IS the right choice, particularly if you have no plans to move or are not in a job that is likely to relocate you.

Sometimes leaving your money in the Stock Market is better than taking it out and buying a house. Other times real estate is the better investment. It all comes down to location.

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