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Educate yourself some on the rest of the world. It's not nearly as bad as 'murica would have you believe. Life's too short to spend your entire life in one country because you've been led to believe it's better than the rest of the world.

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Think US media has painted a very grim picture for Kim Jong-un. He's just some dude that wants nukes like the rest of the world. We're the hypocrites.

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The US media has the public so misinformed that we have no idea what's really going on in North Korea. NK is nothing but a boogey-man to justify enormous military spending. Kinda like how they're trying to vilify China/Russia now. A healthy amount of enemies keeps our economy strong.

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I can believe that... US spending on military is just over half the world's spending combined. HALF.

Didn't mean to derail thread but I agree we view the rest of the world through finely-tuned goggles.

How about Austria? Nice countryside.

I could die happy drinking morning coffee to views like this and spending an afternoon flying around in a 1000cc go kart / pocket rocket :)

http://restotel.net/en/files/2013/09..._landscape.jpg

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If you got money, cali is probably your best bet in the US... but you definitely need money to keep up with cali shaking you down

If you got even more money, get condos/places in multiple countries and rent them out via airbnb when you're not there, assuming you like a frequent change of scenery.

I think south america is great, if you haven't been to buenos aires I recommend checking it out. Its like the best qualities of NY with less traffic combined with the nature/scene of the north west (OR). High cost of living, but its got ridiculous food, night life and the girls working at chain grocery stores are 9s.

@sunspot, small secluded type country side places like that are def the way to go.

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That's true.
However I would rather move to Eastern Europe where I could better enjoy life :)

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(to put it nicely) they would not be friendly to OP. Dont make me spell out why..

also why is OP asking about the height of luxury in cali/hawaii if OP cannot afford the height of luxury there?

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Anywhere low cost of living. Hawaii, Cali and New York can sink into the ocean for all I care. Some of the worst states in the union.

I wouldn't mind a third world country TBH. As long as I can communicate with people and am up to date on my hepatitis shots I don't mind.

Eastern Europe sounds nice though. Holla @ mah boy Sax!

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When in doubt, aspkin has basement room and cage to live in (just fyi) :FF:

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caaaaliiii for sureee

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Looks like you're saying your words a bit too slow. :coffee:

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Cali buds maaaan

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I used to live in Cali (near San Jose) for most of my life.

Cali is not all it's cracked up to be. One of the most annoying things about Silicon Valley, or the entire Bay Area for that matter is that nearly EVERYTHING shuts down after 9pm. There are few places open, even in downtown San Jose or SF. Oh, maybe Denny's or 7-Eleven. It's not like the East Coast where there are tons of nightlife things going on.

Yes, the "buds" are good too. ;) The ladies tho are pretty stuck up, not as friendly as the south or midwest. :)

If you can deal with the traffic jams on the 101, 5 freeway, or the 405 for those in the LA basin, I guess it's not that bad, right?

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Stuck up girls in cali maaaan.

Yea they seemed kinda skittish the one time I was there.

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After 11pm the streets were sketchy af in SF. People in the middle of the street yelling and screaming gibberish.

Buddy and I couldn't find the right street to get back to the hostel and ended up turning onto some dark alley with 4 or 5 black dudes standing in a circle. I kept on walking trying not to act like a puss but after a couple seconds I looked over my should and he was gone lmao. Perfect opportunity to turn around and go find him.

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Ain't that the truth.

There is no place quite like good ol' San Fran. At night the city turns into a quagmire of an experince. For anyone who hasn't been to SF, one must visit at least once in their lives.

Riding BART, watching the local "bum action" in Golden Gate Park, the crazies in the Castro & Tenderloin, etc. It's quite an experience, but not for the weak to take in all at once. ;)

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This all makes me feel quite comfy here in SC.

:pop2:

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Considered Cary/Raleigh in NC as part of post-college career state. Aunt & Uncle used to live there. Not too big not too small & warmer weather than here. They had a cat that would come back sometimes with a massive ballooned out head cause it would get bit by copperheads. Developed a tolerance and could walk around like normal. Most bizarre looking thing especially with the collar lol.

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Absolutely.

Overweight women usually don't get into nightclubs.

The transformation into chubby Babushka begins when they get married and start watching TV all day

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WTF I would pay money to see that cat with swollen head in action. I googled what you said and this is really what I found. lmao.

https://i.postimg.cc/wjk5WGgd/hah.png

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Yes America(and other nations) blind their citizens into thinking the rest of the world is chaotic and dangerous so that you will spend your hard earned cash domestically instead. By the time you have figured out everything you need(passport, insurance, jabs, rape alarm, pepper spray, mosquito repellent etc) then you give up and visit your Grandma instead

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I know, I know.

It's all very depressing and sad to watch in 1st person. The "news" makes me want to throw up. What can ya do...