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james_112233 04-06-2019 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 992106)
Although I agree with you, I think despise is a harsh word. Let people do what they want, they are grown ups and can make their own decisions, and they are fully aware of the risks.

When I first joined this forum it seemed I was one of the few that was NOT selling cakes, lol

F*kes hurt a lot of people up and down the chain. As I said before by adding value to a genuine product you can always re-sell for a profit so there is no need to sell copies of anything ...

unkown5454 04-06-2019 04:13 AM

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dont get it too twisted. there are buyers everywhere that love the stuff too, not just sellers. especially clothes

H4ck 04-06-2019 06:18 AM

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its not that hard to stop f4kes.......only allow big box stores to list such items for sale on ebay, and amazon.............

any third party sellers that want to sell any item that has a brand name, fvck you. lol.

that will completely eradicate all counterfeit sales right there.

ebaystealth1974 04-06-2019 08:59 AM

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That's what Amazon did with Apple, right?

ebaystealth1974 04-06-2019 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by unkown5454 (Post 992149)
dont get it too twisted. there are buyers everywhere that love the stuff too, not just sellers. especially clothes

Don't get it too twisted. Do they LOVE the stuff, or are they just broke phucks that can't afford it? :boink:

yankee 04-06-2019 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 992186)
Don't get it too twisted. Do they LOVE the stuff, or are they just broke phucks that can't afford it? :boink:

Or frugal. I buy quality generic when it is the same as a name brand.... It really depends on what it is though.

ebaystealth1974 04-06-2019 09:33 AM

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Quality generic is different than phake original.

People who buy phake originals are usually cheap ass, broke phucks who want it for social status.

Quality generic buyers are usually frugal.

walkingupwards 04-06-2019 01:53 PM

Re: Trump orders crackdown on counterfeit sales online.
 
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Originally Posted by H4ck (Post 992161)
its not that hard to stop f4kes.......only allow big box stores to list such items for sale on ebay, and amazon.............

any third party sellers that want to sell any item that has a brand name, fvck you. lol.

that will completely eradicate all counterfeit sales right there.



I am sure eBay, Amazon & Alibaba...etc have a different opinion. These companies make billions off the sale of counterfeits on their platform.


Rights holders are pissed because they lose some market share to counterfeiters, but their problem ist not with Amazon or eBay, it is with a factory that is operated overseas. So if they have enough balls, they should go after these factories.


Counterfeiting is as old as prostitution. The moment you accept it, life becomes easier. It won't go away as long as people could make money off it :surrender:

dealagreeproceed 04-06-2019 11:49 PM

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i think one of the bigger points was stopping fentanyl from coming to the US

yankee 04-07-2019 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dealagreeproceed (Post 992335)
i think one of the bigger points was stopping fentanyl from coming to the US

Absolutely. That was the main focus and China stance will make a huge difference.

sax4 04-12-2019 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 992193)
Quality generic is different than phake original.

People who buy phake originals are usually cheap ass, broke phucks who want it for social status.

Quality generic buyers are usually frugal.

I used to buy ⊗⊗⊗⊗ Calvin Klein underwear, they were more comfortable than the originals for me.

nickopedia 04-12-2019 11:59 PM

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Trump (or any President) doesn't make the rules.

What you read in the media, and what actually happens are two different things.

Until further notice, it's business as usual until there are real changes that impact these marketplaces.

surplus 04-13-2019 04:22 AM

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I support everything trump stands for.

surplus 04-13-2019 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 993713)
I used to buy ⊗⊗⊗⊗ Calvin Klein underwear, they were more comfortable than the originals for me.

Funny you say that, i bought some Nike Are Max from ebay phakes and they lasted longer and were more comfortable than my real Nike Air's.

nickopedia 04-13-2019 07:30 PM

Re: Trump orders crackdown on counterfeit sales online.
 
Reproductions themselves are not the issue.

It's something that is purported to be some brand or trademarked item that isn't. Like made in exact imitation of something valuable or important with the intention to deceive or defraud.

There are laws already on the books to counter counterfeit items. They get into the country simply because it's impossible to closely examine EVERY package coming in. US Customs (CBP) does not have those resources. They also don't always know the difference to spot a foo-foo item as opposed to a real one.

Some countries do a better job at controlling who/what crosses their borders. Examples are Singapore, Australia, Canada, UAE. If you have traveled into one of these places, you know how strict they can be.

The USA is the largest importer in the world. They also take in the largest about of foo-foo items. They are not just being sold on online marketplaces like eBay, but also Brick & Morter shops, big box stores, etc. They can enter the supply chain in ways you never imagined.

walkingupwards 04-14-2019 09:07 AM

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Protecting the brand should be the responsibility of the brand itself. eBay and Amazon have done everything in their capacity to fight ⊗⊗⊗⊗. They even gave rights owners the ability to shut down accounts permanently.

Right now there are only a handful of players in the e-commerce scene, but that may change in the future. Imagine holding dozens of online marketplaces liable for the possible sale of counterfeit items on their platform.

I am thinking about starting my own brand... Now I demand that every online store makes sure that no counterfeit items of my brand are sold on their platform. If this doesn't sound insane, I don't know what does!!


Anyway, nothing will stop the counterfeiting industry as long as people could make money off it, drugs and prostitution are the prime example that efforts to end such things are destined to fail.

rsot 04-14-2019 09:21 AM

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walkingupwards 04-14-2019 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by rsot (Post 994373)


What does this article have to do with counterfeiting? Is that a hint about drugs? I don't think a bust ,be it small or big, is a sign that the war on drugs was/is effective, right? I mean do you know how easy is it to acquire drugs?! That's easier than buying a hamburger :boink:

Sunspot144 04-14-2019 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by walkingupwards (Post 994412)
What does this article have to do with counterfeiting? Is that a hint about drugs? I don't think a bust ,be it small or big, is a sign that the war on drugs was/is effective, right? I mean do you know how easy is it to acquire drugs?! That's easier than buying a hamburger :boink:

Think the link was meant for BL's random social media thread haha.

Sunspot144 04-14-2019 11:49 AM

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I find it hard to believe if you bought a pair of Nikes at Kohls there's a chance that they're knockoffs. I dont think a box store doesnt have the resources and connections with manufacturers to purchase incredible orders.

surplus 04-14-2019 11:57 AM

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Sorry not sure what that means..

Sunspot144 04-14-2019 12:09 PM

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IIRC online retail platforms are required by law to work at preventing sale of phake merch. Otherwise they get in trouble. They cant stop all of them, but they 'tried' which let's them continue their operations. Box stores dont have that leisure because they're not a conglomerate of tons of individual sellers. So Trump is targeting that. If you dont have access to cheap merch online (cause they're phake) then you gotta go to Kohl's.

Maybe I'm taking it out of context - I saw Fentanol or w/e was mentioned, but that's some narcotic that's 50-100x more potent than morphine - a drug, not a knockoff. Between tariffs, threatening ending China/US postal treaty and this I'd say Trump is targeting the ecommerce market, esp China.


Sep 25 2018 - Trump’s $250 billion in China tariffs are now in effect


Oct. 18, 2018 - Trump is pulling the US out of an obscure 144-year-old treaty to take a shot at China in the trade war


Dec 5, 2018 - Trump Targets Amazon in Call for Higher Postal Shipping Rates

He can't do anything about this. USPS has been a private company since 1971.

"Trump has claimed that Amazon was “costing the United States Post Office massive amounts of money for being their Delivery Boy"

This isn't actually true because USPS makes MORE each year from Amazon. USPS also willingly made the deal.


Dec 19, 2018 - Pres. Trump declares Christmas Eve a federal holiday for 2018

That means overtime for USPS from x2 days of backed up packages. My mailman gets +4hr overtime and doesnt seem to mind.


I believe he's self/business oriented. What he's done for corp tax rates and deductions for qualifying businesses is substantial but then you get tariffs, so :noidea:


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