What do you think about the lawsuit culture in the U.S?

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by agent006140

no,they did not go to jail,for what?
driving with expired driver license.
If they were penalised for driving with expired license and license plate and no auto insurance,that $40k will take care of all that!

- Driving without a license
- Driving with no insurance
- Driving with no registration
- 2 people in driver seat

I'm pretty sure any one of the 4 would have equated to a trip to jail in my state. That's why your story seemed implausible to me. They got into a wreck, had none of the things required for a legal vehicle, and the cop just let them leave?

And yeah I guess that would have been enough to get them bonded out of jail but personal injury litigation tends to take several months before anybody gets paid.

[agent006140]

yes,I recall they just left and the cop gave me a ticket.
One of them did mumble something about her neck and her back,so I guess thats precursor to whiplash,all I know is they got $40k from my insurer.
May be it was 30k ,either her driver license or license plate of her car has expired or both,it was 15 years ago !
do they check her insurance card,you can drive without insurance,

[rsot]

Originally Posted by agent006140

One of them did mumble something about her neck and her back...

Sounds like that song from Khia...anyhow

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by agent006140

do they check her insurance card,you can drive without insurance,

No you can't..

Illegal in all 50 states. Cool story though.

[walkingupwards]

Originally Posted by dachilla

Not sure if you live in the same Germany as I did.

Not without reason there is a German word called "Abmahnindustrie" which translates to "suing industry".

And I have been sued not only once in Germany. Actually "Beathe Uhse AG" sued me 20 years ago for 30k $$$ for ONE word on my website. That was the point when I decided to go to law school.

And I was sued thereafter can't even count the ridiculous amount of c&d letters which almost destroyed my entire business.

The gangsters with law degrees are all over Germany.

That's correct. I myself had to pay up because of an Abmahnung (Cease and desist letter). However, shielding yourself from such letters is fairly easy when selling online, eBay even has a program called "Abmahnschutz", which is being offered with store-subscriptions.


In every country where there is a platform for litigation, businesses will go after each other. The acuity of the lawsuit situation in Germany is nowhere near that of the U.S.

[agent006140]

Originally Posted by phaz0rz

No you can't..

Illegal in all 50 states. Cool story though.

then what is the purpose of 'uninsured motorist coverage'?
When I was in LA,I swear some folks drive without insurance .
In TX,it expects you to have state inspection sticker which cost $35? ,some drivers will leave the expired one in the windshield until they are caught,some will take it from a car ready to be scrapped or steal it from another car .
It is not they cant afford the $35,it is just their car cant pass the test.

[agent006140]

Originally Posted by walkingupwards

That's correct. I myself had to pay up because of an Abmahnung (Cease and desist letter). However, shielding yourself from such letters is fairly easy when selling online, eBay even has a program called "Abmahnschutz", which is being offered with store-subscriptions.


In every country where there is a platform for litigation, businesses will go after each other. The acuity of the lawsuit situation in Germany is nowhere near that of the U.S.

It is good money if you win(USA),someone was trying to sell his house in a deteriorating neighborhood and the potential buyers will say,when I win the lawsuit,I will be able to buy your house !

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by agent006140

then what is the purpose of 'uninsured motorist coverage'?

To cover you if you get in a wreck you aren't faulted for and the other party is driving without insurance. Their insurance company would be expected to pay for the damage on your vehicle, but since they don't have insurance and probably don't have any money, your own insurance company helps get you back on the road.

[Sunspot144]

Originally Posted by agent006140

then what is the purpose of 'uninsured motorist coverage'?
When I was in LA,I swear some folks drive without insurance .
In TX,it expects you to have state inspection sticker which cost $35? ,some drivers will leave the expired one in the windshield until they are caught,some will take it from a car ready to be scrapped or steal it from another car .
It is not they cant afford the $35,it is just their car cant pass the test.

State inspections are purely a money grab by big brother. Police say it reduces car accidents on the highway. While true, on the other hand, of states with the lowest number of accidents the top states dont require inspections. $35 per car is a couple million.

[agent006140]

well,in my state,we have many immigrants,legal or illegal,some of the cars should not really be on the road.
Like it does not honk,windshield wipers do not work,tires should have been replaced,turn signals ,oil leak etc etc.
but I agree,$35 is good money for the state/city goverment.

[Sunspot144]

Sounds like they haven't had drivers ed.

[xenix]

us law system is very bad

[rsot]

Originally Posted by xenix

us law system is very bad

You have been to the US right xenix?

[Arde]

Originally Posted by walkingupwards

I don't think there is an exact number on how many lives/people had been destroyed by getting sued in the U.S.

You see gangsters with law degrees going after businesses or individuals with one goal in mind ---> to make $$$. However, when that process nears its end, irreversible damage has already been done.


I can tell you something about Europe (i.e: Germany), this craziness doesn't exist


I think this culture might have some short-term financial gains to the lawyers and the people they represent, but long-term, it is destroying the country.


What do you think?

I agree it's crazy and something should be done to stop this practice.

How much is the average cost of earning a law degree in your country?

[walkingupwards]

Originally Posted by Arde

I agree it's crazy and something should be done to stop this practice.

How much is the average cost of earning a law degree in your country?

College is free in Germany, students pay around 300$ per semester and they get to use public transportation inside their state for free. However, to get into law or med school, you need to graduate high school with some decent grades.

[agent006140]

Long before this crisis,Venezuelan in Venezuela will import tires deem unfit from USA,so they can drive on the road.
Now they dont have to worry,they have no gas .

[agent006140]

Once I was in a car repair shop to fix my car,and there is this couple there,they have a relatively new car and it was wrecked badly,they have a choice,to fix the car or take the insurance money which comes to over $10k?
Cant recall how it is done,get some minor stuff done and split the check with the repair shop?Is that fraud?
or may be pay the shop a small sum and take the rest,repair nothing .
I am sure there are still car payments to be made,but they have no intention of making them,just take the proceeds to buy another car or go on vacation?

[UKGiftWarranty]

Interesting that Whiplash is still a big claim in the US.

It's the biggest in the UK too but in recent years payout for those claims has gone from 85% down to around 1 in 4... through medical intervention and claim withdrawals. It's really been clamped down on. Insurance companies here these days, if there's any doubt, will apply legal pressure on the claimant (threat or actual action).

[nickopedia]

Whiplash, Slip & Fall, etc. These claims are epic in the legal world.

The most predatory type of attorney are those who litigate some types of personal injury cases; primarily practice in the area known as tort law.

Not to say that all personal injury lawyers are crooked. I am just saying many times the FACTS in many claims can be skewed as such to get an easy payday. In some circles they are referred to as "Ambulance Chasers".

There is a big reason you see so many of those "INJURED? AUTO ACCIDENT?" billboards all over the place. There is potentially some serious money in these types of cases.

[futbolplayer]

In regards to the estate protecting individual, personal wealth.. You cannot assume an estate is guaranteed protection. What circumstances might warrant plaintiffs coming after the estate? Look at the J. Epstein situation right now. Victims are going after the estate right now.

[nickopedia]

Originally Posted by futbolplayer

In regards to the estate protecting individual, personal wealth.. You cannot assume an estate is guaranteed protection. What circumstances might warrant plaintiffs coming after the estate? Look at the J. Epstein situation right now. Victims are going after the estate right now.

There are some forms of structure which can protect assets. I'm sure someone as high profile as Epstein employed such protections. Set up properly, Trusts, Foundations, and Foreign IBC's can make it nearly impossible to access assets/money in them.

A good example is the jurisdictions of Nevis & St. Kitts or Cook Islands. Once assets are there, it's quite doubtful you will be successful to bring a valid claim, even if you knew it existed at all.

[futbolplayer]

Can you guarantee no victims will get any part of the estate?