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RipeBanana 01-04-2020 09:40 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by futbolplayer (Post 1025445)
tinsoldier, please refrain from commenting on my posts. I don’t know you, and I don’t like you. Additionally, your posts/replies are rarely of any value.

Why not? you asked for people opinions? lol

Emporium 01-04-2020 03:24 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by futbolplayer (Post 1025434)
I have managed to win this amount, combined live and online winnings within the last couple years playing part-time. My win rate is only getting better and I am starting to play higher stakes. Is this a lot of money to win from the game? Should I consider pursuing the game further even though I don’t find it enjoyable and view it as a waste of my time?

Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1025442)
It's not a lot of money to me, I do not think you should pursue it further.

Quote:

Originally Posted by futbolplayer (Post 1025445)
tinsoldier, please refrain from commenting on my posts. I don’t know you, and I don’t like you. Additionally, your posts/replies are rarely of any value.

No offense, I've been guilty of it too at times. But this thread was clearly just made in the hopes that a bunch of people would be impressed by $25,000 and feed your ego. Then the first person to comment wasn't and you got mad. I don't know whether you are actually looking for a real answer.

My advice would be either go all in (this and any future puns completely intended) and raise the stakes to where you are betting 100x as much and either winning 100x as much or realizing you aren't good enough to be a professional poker player after all. I think that it is a serious career and can make you very rich if you are actually among the best in the world at it.

Also, take an analytical approach- you should be recording and graphing your ROIs by hand or session and as many metrics as possible.

futbolplayer 01-07-2020 02:16 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
I wasn't making the thread to inflate my ego and I know many people who make ~1M a year from playing poker. I was trying to start a thread and share a journey and my first post was my prelude. I am going to continue to study the game and see how much I can make at it.

Also, for the people on the form who do not believe I am a long-term winner with poker, how about we play online heads up? I can guarantee within about 20-30 hours of play, you will realize I have an edge that you do not (tinsoldier for example).

I will continue to share my progress. I am hoping I can make between 250k and 1M off the game before I walk away from it. My goal is to do it within the next 2-3 years.

rsot 01-07-2020 06:12 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by futbolplayer (Post 1059919)
I wasn't making the thread to inflate my ego and I know many people who make ~1M a year from playing poker. I was trying to start a thread and share a journey and my first post was my prelude. I am going to continue to study the game and see how much I can make at it.

Also, for the people on the form who do not believe I am a long-term winner with poker, how about we play online heads up? I can guarantee within about 20-30 hours of play, you will realize I have an edge that you do not (tinsoldier for example).

I will continue to share my progress. I am hoping I can make between 250k and 1M off the game before I walk away from it. My goal is to do it within the next 2-3 years.

Best of luck - it is possible to make that amount with steady gameplay - mix of cash games and tournaments, sure

futbolplayer 01-07-2020 10:51 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Yes I do struggle to balance both, it is indeed difficult. Not sure I understand the logic about participating in a chat and making money at the same time. Tin, if you are so certain I’m not a winner, surely you can play me heads up and not lose too much... why not accept my challenge? If your going to make claims that anyone posting on this forum is a losing player, why don’t you stick to your guns and take my challenge? You should be able to beat a losing player, even if your not a great player.

Rsot, I am going to begin to share screenshots of all in ev, net winning, and net winning without showdown in the future. One of my last leaks is better controlling tilt, I still spew on occasion.

My goal with this thread is to share my journey and help inspire others to become winning players to support their lives and businesses. It is possible to win good money playing the game and I don’t see why others claim otherwise without sufficient evidence (tinsoldier). Perhaps he’s bitter because he does not posses the skill set to win at the game.

futbolplayer 01-07-2020 12:07 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Tin don't be bitter because I will get richer than you in both ecommerce and poker ;)
Faltering ecommerce company? I'll be at 10M revenue within two years. RIP!

futbolplayer 01-07-2020 12:12 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Also, "you do not have the skill set to make millions." Where if your evidence behind this? I would never make a statement without sufficient evidence, why spread false information to the forrum?

futbolplayer 01-07-2020 12:25 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Nah :) This is my only avatar

63TMB 01-07-2020 01:42 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by futbolplayer (Post 1059919)
I wasn't making the thread to inflate my ego and I know many people who make ~1M a year from playing poker. I was trying to start a thread and share a journey and my first post was my prelude. I am going to continue to study the game and see how much I can make at it.

Also, for the people on the form who do not believe I am a long-term winner with poker, how about we play online heads up? I can guarantee within about 20-30 hours of play, you will realize I have an edge that you do not (tinsoldier for example).

I will continue to share my progress. I am hoping I can make between 250k and 1M off the game before I walk away from it. My goal is to do it within the next 2-3 years.

I say go for it. If you lose just do a chargeback

futbolplayer 01-07-2020 05:34 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Not a bad idea, offshore gambling sites stand a very low chance of winning a claim against a US customer.

futbolplayer 01-18-2020 07:31 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Just finished a session and posting a chart. Ran about $150 below EV, which is one of the reason as stated in my first post, I highly dislike this game. You need to have mental discipline to not tilt when things don't go your way. I ran pretty significantly below EV and it was frustrating. Nonetheless, still had a good sessions.

My red line (winnings without showdown) has improved dramatically and has a decent slope to it. As expected, the blue line (winnings with showdown) should always be positive. Obviously, net winnings (current) for the session are in green and what I should actually have won, is in yellow (all in EV).

Anyways, this is a solid looking chart and it took me about 1 year of playing seriously to develop such a playing style. Hope this is informative for everyone, I think I'll be posting charts with winnings per session in the thousands within six months.

Tin, I just copied and pasted this off the internet right? Surely, I cannot be a winner over 3K hands -- I just got lucky (Tins explanation).

https://ibb.co/bWzg0Cj

ckev26 01-18-2020 08:45 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
[QUOTE=futbolplayer;1062690]Just finished a session and posting a chart.


That session is from 5 days ago according to the top left of the screen shot
so you had a week of playing and took a screenshot every day to post the lucky day you had?
what you trying to prove?

rsot 01-18-2020 08:53 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by futbolplayer (Post 1062690)
Just finished a session and posting a chart. Ran about $150 below EV, which is one of the reason as stated in my first post, I highly dislike this game. You need to have mental discipline to not tilt when things don't go your way. I ran pretty significantly below EV and it was frustrating. Nonetheless, still had a good sessions.

My red line (winnings without showdown) has improved dramatically and has a decent slope to it. As expected, the blue line (winnings with showdown) should always be positive. Obviously, net winnings (current) for the session are in green and what I should actually have won, is in yellow (all in EV).

Anyways, this is a solid looking chart and it took me about 1 year of playing seriously to develop such a playing style. Hope this is informative for everyone, I think I'll be posting charts with winnings per session in the thousands within six months.

Tin, I just copied and pasted this off the internet right? Surely, I cannot be a winner over 3K hands -- I just got lucky (Tins explanation).

https://ibb.co/bWzg0Cj

Mental discipline indeed

futbolplayer 01-18-2020 10:00 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
That session is not from 4 days ago, that was today's session (where do you get 4 days ago?)

Tin solider said, "Nobody on this forum is a winning poker player."


Nothing to prove anything, expect for proving Tin wrong with his baseless claim that nobody on this forum is a winning poker player -- and he was so certain on it! Funny this is, I'll be clearing 1-3K days within 6 months.

Next, I'll have to prove that within 2-3 years, my ecommerce company will net me 10M -- Tin will be wrong again. Why is he such a hater!?!?!

futbolplayer 01-18-2020 06:45 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Tin you are the one full of bullsh$t. You make false claims, stand by the false claims for months, and then make more baseless claims (sarcastically stating enjoy your millions).

Why don’t you bet me right now:

I’ll bet you 250k, within 5 years, my ecommerce company nets me 10M before taxes. I’ll have my attorney get you paperwork.

Tin won’t do it, he’s full of bullsh$t — if he wasn’t he’d take my bet.

Guarantee he won’t do it.

futbolplayer 01-18-2020 06:57 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
I’ll keep everyone posted whether tin accepts and signs paperwork from my attorney.

ckev26 01-19-2020 12:43 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by futbolplayer (Post 1062728)
That session is not from 4 days ago, that was today's session (where do you get 4 days ago?)

Tin solider said, "Nobody on this forum is a winning poker player."


Nothing to prove anything, expect for proving Tin wrong with his baseless claim that nobody on this forum is a winning poker player -- and he was so certain on it! Funny this is, I'll be clearing 1-3K days within 6 months.

Next, I'll have to prove that within 2-3 years, my ecommerce company will net me 10M -- Tin will be wrong again. Why is he such a hater!?!?!

there you go :thumb:

https://ibb.co/kS47XPL

futbolplayer 01-19-2020 02:04 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
That’s just database creation date brotha, has nothing to do with the session which is filtered by “today”

Tin also cant seem to wrap his head around that 3k hands is nothing when your multi tabling and playing zoom/zone (quick fold). I’m also slowly building my role online playing 50NL, so yes the winnings are going to be smaller than if I played 200NL live, which 200NL and 500NL are what I play when I walk into casinos.

50NL => $.25/50 blinds
200NL => $1/2 blinds
500NL => $2/5 blinds

Important to note, 50NL online is harder than 500NL live. Around 5% of poker players can make money at the game in the long run. Even fewer can beat online poker.



I’ve not heard from Tin about the legalese. He can lay terms should he fear 250k is an amount I cannot come up with. Tin should just apologize for being wrong and making baseless claims for months — that’s all.

ckev26 01-19-2020 03:29 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by futbolplayer (Post 1062855)
That’s just database creation date brotha, has nothing to do with the session which is filtered by “today”

Tin also cant seem to wrap his head around that 3k hands is nothing when your multi tabling and playing zoom/zone (quick fold). I’m also slowly building my role online playing 50NL, so yes the winnings are going to be smaller than if I played 200NL live, which 200NL and 500NL are what I play when I walk into casinos.

50NL => $.25/50 blinds
200NL => $1/2 blinds
500NL => $2/5 blinds

Important to note, 50NL online is harder than 500NL live. Around 5% of poker players can make money at the game in the long run. Even fewer can beat online poker.



I’ve not heard from Tin about the legalese. He can lay terms should he fear 250k is an amount I cannot come up with. Tin should just apologize for being wrong and making baseless claims for months — that’s all.

database creation with the date on and user member id number

Database:PT4_2020_01_13_214148

You are still saying i am wrong or do you wish me to post more evidence?

futbolplayer 01-20-2020 06:34 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
2020-01-13 --> Database creation date. What needs to be more clear?

futbolplayer 01-20-2020 06:35 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Tinsolider you're a lightweight!

Cadmus79 01-26-2020 05:05 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
For a couple of years it's not a lot of money, that would be a lot of money if I had won it in a week or a month, I think you shouldn't be chasing poker player for the future.

futbolplayer 01-28-2020 09:48 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
I will not be taking your advice, however I appreciate for input on the thread.

animekings99 01-28-2020 09:51 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Where already gambling with eBay and PayPal accounts I don't think we want to do anymore.

MathProfessor 03-15-2020 03:15 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1025632)
I don’t really understand the point of the thread if I am honest

Only you can decide if that’s good or not V the amount of work you put in

It's sort of like when a girl posts a picture of herself on social media and says "what do you think, am I cute"

prodigyace 03-15-2020 03:29 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1077473)
Can believe the mods don't delete/ban this crowd???

You should apply to be a mod lol

rsot 03-15-2020 03:49 PM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prodigyace (Post 1077481)
You should apply to be a mod lol

agent is first in cue though...

rsot 06-12-2020 03:53 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1099170)
stocks are on sale now,DJ Industrial dropped 1473 points !

It was a bloodbath on the markets yesterday :(

Bigblackdog 06-19-2020 10:18 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1062857)
I'll need a fortnight or so to free up my 250K, any idea who we should use for ESCROW?

ME ME ME - and I 'promise' I will hand the 500k to the winner (perhaps):bounce:

wthezzy 06-19-2020 10:38 AM

Re: Is winning 25k playing poker a lot?
 
Don't listen to these idiots. Obviously they're set in their ways. Great for them that they have something that works for them, but without talking to someone about this that's IN THE GAME, and plays regularly, you're just going to get horrible advice that's just going to piss you off. That said, I've been playing 8 years, recreationally, and have moved to playing regularly... About 30 hours a week give or take, so I guess you can say it's a second job for me. I'd say that as long as your up in the long run, keep going. If your stats over the years show that you've been able to consistently pull profits, I'd say it's worth continuing. Now, the amount... Is it worth your time? at 25k spread over 3 years, that's not much... But I don't know how many hours you put in or how serious you are about playing. Is it casual playing? Or do you rely on it for some sort of income other than pocket change at the end of the day? On average, I make 6-8k a month from poker. To me, it's just like a job where I clock in, go through the motions, and I'm out. I no longer get the thrill of playing like I used to, and sometimes, I can't wait to leave the table. It's become just that, a grind. I suppose this happens sooner or later, but for me, it's given me no reason to stop playing. Now, I agree with others how this can open doors for a new addiction, some of which you all seem all too familiar with. And I'm not going to lie, poker did open doors for me to other games which I've lost upwards of 50k on (damned baccarat). It took me a while to realign my focus and get out of "gambling" and get back to "playing" to make profits. My advice to you is to determine your goal, and like any business, have an exit strategy (unless you see yourself playing cards forever). Also, I just thought I'd mention, I don't play online... Online poker is a totally different ball game. I only do live playing at casinos. 7AM-12pm, depending on how I run. Usually I'm out within the first 2 hours.


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