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Re: Corona Virus
 

I agree with you, with the exception of this point.

WHO confirmed on the 16th that covid-19 can go airborne and survive in the air. The mass denial of this fact is confusing to me. It will do more harm than good trying to convince people that direct contact is the only mode of transmission. People should be taking every precaution possible regardless.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/16/who-...ve-in-air.html

Re: Corona Virus
 

In other news, the DOW Jones industrial average is under 20k for the first time since early 2017. Global recession incoming. A 10,000 point loss in a single month is unprecedented.

The forum isn't letting me edit my previous post, but here is another article RE airborne transmission

WHO recommends 'airborne precautions' for coronavirus - NY Post

Re: Corona Virus
 

"Aerosolization occurs rarely but not never,” said microbiologist and physician Stanley Perlman of the University of Iowa. “You have to distinguish between what’s possible and what’s actually happening.”

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Yeah, ok. And how exactly would he know? That's just some guy with an opinion to me, lol. 6/7 continents having an active pandemic lead me to believe otherwise.

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Because the data indicates this is NOT being spread via the air. It would be insane, like the measles. Which IS airborne. And has an R0 of something like 12 or some shiit.

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Only in certain, rare environmental scenarios is this being transmitted by air.

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We'd have to also wear safety glasses if this were truly airborne. :(

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While it can survive in the air that’s not in dispute here that’s not quite the same is it being completely airborne

It’s not spreading and multiplying in the air like a fully airborne virus would. So yes it’s airborne in the sense that if you go ahead and sneeze on someone else or in proximity to them it could spread from you to them via that method but you couldn’t sneeze in the air and then someone 100 foot away get infected.

I suppose it comes down to terminology but by the strict definition it’s just not an airborne virus

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Ahh, nice edit! He appears to be more than just some guy lol

Looks at the data. You can't escape the last part of his quote.

You have to distinguish between what’s possible and what’s actually happening.

It's clear this isn't being greatly transmitted via airborne means.

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Well, they ARE saying in certain situations, it can sometimes remain in the air for a few hours.

But like you say, this clearly isn't happening on anything outside a minuscule scale, and BY DEFINITION, is not an airborne scenario.

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Viruses need hosts to replicate. Has there ever been a virus that can multiply in the air?

That's certainly not clear to me. 10k+ new cases every day suggest to me airborne transmission is definitely happening on a large scale. Do you think every new infected person was directly sneezed on by another infected person?

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Poor phrasing from me there...

By all accounts its being spread from direct person to person or from person to object to person contact.

Handshakes, hugs, someone opening a door and then another person coming along and touching the same door handle, ATM machines key pads, picking up a tin of beans in a shop putting it back and then someone else picking it up etc. Its not happening from people sneezing on each other or coughing at each other. There will be some spread through that, but its really a small %. Instead of wearing a mask people are better off wearing gloves and just not touching their face.

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lol wut.......




Then you're just not seeing this clearly.

Science says, and daily data shows us all that it's most definitely NOT. Not even close.

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Were this airborne, your usage of the word "exponential" would be accurate.

But it's not. Nor is your use of the word.

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Still trying to make sense of this post. A sick person, with ONE COUGH, can expel up to 2 hundred million individual virus particles.

Do you really need multiplication, when one cough puts that much virus into the air?

More proof that this isn't being spread via airborne means. ;)

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https://i.postimg.cc/gJKZMtmj/daily-deaths-3-17.png

Already over 1k for the 18th. :shocked: Italy is having a very hard time.

Yes this one is from worldometers since the JH site doesn't track deaths.

meanwhile in china..

https://i.postimg.cc/k5gGJMmJ/china-numbers.png

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lol... actually, that chart would now looks like this.


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Basturds!

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italy also has the second largest population per capita of old people, with a society that also looks highly on young people being around old people.

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The first infected person in my country was traveling in a bus with 15 other people for 6 hours. No other person was infected. If it was airborne it would be different story.

Re: Supermarkets limit food purchase
 

media is definitely pushing the idea of rationing. So I can see why some people would jump on the idea.

Some places are in fact rationing ALL items.
https://www.businessinsider.com/coro...nic-buy-2020-3

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...eal-with-virus

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ighting-panic/

Re: Supermarkets limit food purchase
 

That is rationing no? Even if on a small scale with certain items it’s happening none the less.

It is getting hard to find certain things, even if you go to lots of different shops. I’m sure that will change in time and supply chains catch up

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If it doesn't last long on inanimate objects one could assume the alternative is airbourne contraction. It's probably a combo of the two all happening in close proximity and fairly quickly. Cough on object or cough on person.

Droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs -CDC

What type of gov would be best for world domination though... ^^

Totalitarian or authoritarian democracy? Totalitarian if everyone was united under the same cause. Authoritarian democracy if they were not... ? :)

(China, my phake government would take over yours and incorporate it under my omniscient regime, been planning this since 2012 damnit!!!! :lol: :p )

https://www.businessinsider.in/thumb...bets-on-it.jpg

Where is the planet headed to anyways. Are we all going to keep our differences and maintain borders until we eventually consume majority of resources, then fight over them? Why not unite... regulate resources and spread them evenly. Pretty socialist but so is trading, don't see other options for a one-world global society :mod: