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ukjay 05-05-2020 02:09 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
So do you think it was a mistake or done on purpose.

james13v 05-05-2020 05:14 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pisports (Post 1091286)
Well everyone apart from trump/pempeo and their supporters confirmed this virus generated from nature.
this include WHO,US CDC,US CIA,Anthony Fauci,and many EU country leaders
I don't think CCP has that huge hand to buy all those people/organization to make lies with them no way.CHINA doesnt have that sort of power or influence to do this.
So for my personal viewing : Trump is lying for his election which like he did back in 2016.Only their sworn followers will believe.So are you?

How in the hell could they possibly know that this virus came from nature and not a lab....

And it's not about china making others lie. It's about china providing false information and specific disinformation. You know, like telling the WHO it doesn't spread person to person, when they KNEW it spread person to person.

And have you ever considered, that all those organizations are erring on the side of caution? When they know how bad it would actually be, if it's confirmed it was made by china? The results would be devastating for the world.

Which lies in 2016 by the way? Do tell.

rsot 05-06-2020 03:08 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1091327)
Did you read about a little girl whose mother worked and lived in the hospital treating patients,her grandparents quarantined themselves in the bedroom and her father cant come into Wuhan due to lockdown,she has to open a can of food ,heat it,pour into a plate and placed outside her grandparents' bedroom,then go to sleep in the living room everyday

Didn't see this.

ukjay 05-11-2020 10:44 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
UK Gov turn around on face masks.I wonder how many lives might have been saved if this was advised from the start.I don't go out unless i have got my N95 mask on.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-h...-rules-school/

james13v 05-11-2020 10:57 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ukjay (Post 1092528)
UK Gov turn around on face masks.I wonder how many lives might have been saved if this was advised from the start.I don't go out unless i have got my N95 mask on.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-h...-rules-school/

What does it matter anyways? The question isn't how many lives would have been saved, but how many lives would have been saved in the short term. Because unless they come out with a vaccine, and everyone hides away and wears masks for the next 1-2 years until a vaccine POSSIBLY comes out, the same amount of people would have died eventually. The only point of the lock down and social distancing, is to prevent hospitals from being overrun. This is not a virus that you can just hide from until it goes away.

Masks were always meant to protect people from YOU, not the other way around. But at the same time, they've shown that asymptomatic people aren't the ones spreading this. So having everyone wear masks is pretty much pointless security theater.

not to mention, in NY, 65% of all hospitalizations where people staying home...

james13v 05-11-2020 11:01 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1092529)
Hardly any.

And it's not a turn around, the majority of the nation was on lockdown and observing social distancing so no masks required. They're now suggesting you may want to consider a facemask as we start to release folk back into normal society and contact may occur.

well, then again, I don't know about the UK, but the people participating in the lock down, were the majority of hospital cases.

And really, masks are pointless unless someone is coughing and sneezing. And even the n95 only provide 95% protection on a good day, assuming you use them right. And ignores the fact that you can just as easily catch the virus if it gets into your eyes, which is why nurses and doctors also wear eye protection.

When is the last time anyone of you have been out, and been around someone sneezing or coughing? I know I haven't seen anyone. People are scared to do so.

ukjay 05-11-2020 11:05 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1092529)
Hardly any.

And it's not a turn around, the majority of the nation was on lockdown and observing social distancing so no masks required. They're now suggesting you may want to consider a facemask as we start to release folk back into normal society and contact may occur.

You are wrong again m8 it says to use them in shops and close spaces from now on so it is a turn around.Try reading the info before you comment.

james13v 05-11-2020 11:19 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by upuaut (Post 1092537)
when people say they stay home,it does not mean they dont venture out to pick up newspaper,or check mail,or run into someone in the hallway.
or let someone into their house,could be super,electrician
some have maids who come weekly.which brings into question the immune system,elderly get sick and die,but young ones recover

well yeah, we aren't like China, that welds peoples doors shut.

ukjay 05-11-2020 11:26 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1092540)
Nah, you're allowing your snowflake mentality to cloud facts with your super-soppy agenda.

But I repeat, it is a recommendation to wear them if social distancing cannot be avoided i.e. crowded places.

Guess what, if you go out and are confident you wont meet anyone you don't need to wear a mask. Fact!

It seems to me like i have touched a nerve hook line and sinker YOU are very easy to catch.And i go to the post office most days so yes i do see lots of people.I love the snow.

ukjay 05-11-2020 11:47 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1092545)
Touched a nerve, sorry I was only correcting you, I'm not hurt FFS. :pound:

If you feel better wearing a mask then you do so my little cupcake. :behindsofa:

You do take a lot of these posts on here very personally i wonder if you have a mental problem that you need to get help with.And why are you so aggressive in most of your replies to people looking for help on this forum.Are you mental or just a total a**hole.By the way i love cupcakes.xxx

yankee 05-11-2020 12:02 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
I am a bit surprised this thread is still going with the infection rate being nearly 0% world wide. What a freaking debacle these past months have been hiding from this invisible boogieman

ukjay 05-11-2020 12:53 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1092563)
I'm probably mental, I'm definitely an a-hole and I eat cupcakes for breakfast. :)

I also feel obliged to correct those who choose to post incorrect information for the benefit of the wider audience - it's nothing personal. :)

Well your diet could explain a thing or two i am a bacon and egg bin lid man myself and a strong tea.The question is = better to wear a mask and glasses and gloves Vs Better not to use any PPE.I mean do you no who is Asymptomatic and who is not when you are in the shop or bus or train etc.And do Governments allways tell the whole truth at the right time.

ukjay 05-11-2020 01:09 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 

JamesNorth101 05-11-2020 02:16 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 1092551)
I am a bit surprised this thread is still going with the infection rate being nearly 0% world wide. What a freaking debacle these past months have been hiding from this invisible boogieman

56,417 new cases in 24 hours

Still a little while to go yet

james13v 05-11-2020 02:52 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ukjay (Post 1092570)
Well your diet could explain a thing or two i am a bacon and egg bin lid man myself and a strong tea.The question is = better to wear a mask and glasses and gloves Vs Better not to use any PPE.I mean do you no who is Asymptomatic and who is not when you are in the shop or bus or train etc.And do Governments allways tell the whole truth at the right time.

ok, lets say someone is asymptomatic. How will they infect you ( seeing as how symptoms are what are spreading it), and how will your PPE protect you, where just not touching your face and washing your hands would help just the same?

james13v 05-11-2020 02:58 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1092590)
56,417 new cases in 24 hours

Still a little while to go yet

Doesn't really change their statement does it? World wide, over 2 million people get the flu per day ( and that's if we pretend the flu is 365 days per year). What's 56,000 covid cases in a day really? The numbers we are all using, is complete nonsense.

ukjay 05-11-2020 03:11 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1092592)
ok, lets say someone is asymptomatic. How will they infect you ( seeing as how symptoms are what are spreading it), and how will your PPE protect you, where just not touching your face and washing your hands would help just the same?

Well its spreading through droplets from infected people so lets say im in the long cue in the post office and the is an infected person in front of me and there on there phone so they are spraying droplets all in the air that everyone in the shop is breathing in that's how im looking at it.Or im infected but im not spreading it coss i got the common sense to cover up.Its all about the droplets in enclosed spaces which can remain in the air for 3 hours.

https://www.genano.com/infobase/how-...hrough-the-air

james13v 05-11-2020 03:29 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ukjay (Post 1092596)
Well its spreading through droplets from infected people so lets say im in the long cue in the post office and the is an infected person in front of me and there on there phone so they are spraying droplets all in the air that everyone in the shop is breathing in that's how im looking at it.Or im infected but im not spreading it coss i got the common sense to cover up.Its all about the droplets in enclosed spaces which can remain in the air for 3 hours.

https://www.genano.com/infobase/how-...hrough-the-air

well your mask is not going to protect you from droplets. Their mask will. And again, if they are out and about, they are asymptomatic. They are not producing all the virus laden particulates that someone with symptoms would have. your chances of not only being around a sick person, but also contracting it from someone who is asymptomatic AND is not sneezing and coughing, is negligible.

Here is the thing. There are things in this world that are more dangerous than this, that we take WAY less precaution against. 30-80,000 people in America die of just the flu, and that's with the huge amount of vaccines. and yet 10's of millions get it every year. We go on with life and view the flu as an annoyance. The vast majority that can die from covid, are going to be susceptible to dying from the normal flu. The flu kills the young and healthy. there have been something like 50 deaths of people under 25 in America?

Long story short, masks are for the sick, not the healthy. and a younger healthier person is more likely to die from many other things that they take a fraction of the precautions we are currently taking for covid.

james13v 05-11-2020 03:32 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ukjay (Post 1092596)
Well its spreading through droplets from infected people so lets say im in the long cue in the post office and the is an infected person in front of me and there on there phone so they are spraying droplets all in the air that everyone in the shop is breathing in that's how im looking at it.Or im infected but im not spreading it coss i got the common sense to cover up.Its all about the droplets in enclosed spaces which can remain in the air for 3 hours.

https://www.genano.com/infobase/how-...hrough-the-air

actually, even shorter story. how long do you plan on wearing full PPE?

ukjay 05-11-2020 03:46 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1092600)
actually, even shorter story. how long do you plan on wearing full PPE?

For as long as it takes and im not young and healthy i have health issues.Hopefully if the numbers keep going down here in the uk then i wont need to use it as often if i don't sell and post i don't put food on the table.I no my N95 FFP3 masks will help me and the rest of my PPE if it didn't then why do people use it?Regardless to if other people are infected or not i would rather be safe than sorry.

JamesNorth101 05-11-2020 04:32 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ukjay (Post 1092570)
Well your diet could explain a thing or two i am a bacon and egg bin lid man myself and a strong tea.The question is = better to wear a mask and glasses and gloves Vs Better not to use any PPE.I mean do you no who is Asymptomatic and who is not when you are in the shop or bus or train etc.And do Governments allways tell the whole truth at the right time.

Part of the reason as to why people were advised not to use PPE is it would take away the supply if everyone went out and started buying some from nurses and doctors and a lot of the people who still have to get into close proximity with people to more definitely carriers

If there’s only so much of something to go about and it is much better for it to go to people who do have a more pressing need for it

ukjay 05-11-2020 05:03 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1092607)
Part of the reason as to why people were advised not to use PPE is it would take away the supply if everyone went out and started buying some from nurses and doctors and a lot of the people who still have to get into close proximity with people to more definitely carriers

If there’s only so much of something to go about and it is much better for it to go to people who do have a more pressing need for it

Be prepared! Our gov new what was on its way yet they choose to sit on there hands and bungle about they new they were short on ventilators and all PPE can't blame me for there mess.

james13v 06-14-2020 02:26 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1099689)
I contribute my good health these days to wearing mask when I leave the house to go shopping(n95 made by 3M),washing my hands when I return and staying home with my air cleaner on each morning.
I also take anti oxidant when I remember to take them .
You never know !

lol the masks are literally only for OTHERS to not get sick from YOU. How do you not know that yet? And the WHO just came out and said asymptomatic transmission is very rare. And this isn't air borne, so I'm not sure what you think is in your house, that the air cleaner is helping you with. Maybe some other stuff, but not covid.

TGMT² 06-14-2020 05:57 PM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1099752)
but where did agents post you're replying to go to?

They were merged and deleted, she has be warned several times for double posting.

phaz0rz 06-15-2020 06:26 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
That was probably the end game all along.


Alright... now from this point on discussion of covid or the 'rona is a bannable offense.

pisports 06-15-2020 06:55 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1099842)
Just heard-virus found in imported salmon from China!
Beijing meat market-40 samples taken contain the virus.
China is in big trouble when countries banned China imports

WTF?you wanne be a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ news king?
It was china found European imported salmon contain the virus and spread to people.CHINA dosent produce salmon you idiot

phaz0rz 06-15-2020 07:00 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1099845)
why?
The situation is getting worse,not better

Trump ran on the promise of loosening American ties to China.

That's something that would be easier said than done... unless of course a pandemic conveniently breaks out in the target country, giving you a reason to go on a crusade against them.

Now it's election season and the anti-china propaganda is strong.

I quit paying any attention months ago but that's how it seems to be playing out. American sentiment against China is at an all time high.

:confused:

Who knows. There's always more than meets the eye.

james13v 06-15-2020 07:18 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by upuaut (Post 1099758)
some air cleaner has laser beam,claim to kill virus

Assuming that is possible, how is covid getting into her house in the first place?

rsot 06-16-2020 04:21 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Nice morning chuckle read - thanks

JamesNorth101 06-17-2020 08:23 AM

Re: Corona Virus
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1100317)
you wanna bet,you idiot,I see imported salmon from China at our local grocery store,you loser !

May want to go ahead and re-read that message....


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