TRUMP or Harris?

[agent006140]

who would you vote for?

[rsot]

uh oh...i cant vote in the US yet...who are you voting for

[agent006140]

I will be voting for Trump,not because I am a Trump fan,but since he has served as president in the past,he may do a better job serving us than Harris,lets hope so.
Does any one notice our deficit is now larger than our GNP and Biden never address it?

[slokor]

Not a big fan of either but you DO remember the chaos during his first presidency? the one that culminated in January 6th 2021 and the attack on capitol hill?
Dont think a guy who outright states he wants to be a dictator on day one is the right person for the job.
Its a shame the Democratic party is marred by the radical progressive minority in its ranks.
Just seems the extremists on both sides are ruining it for everybody - the vast majority who are far more centered and have much in common with each other despite voting for different parties.

[agent006140]

I remember that stupid attack,someone left a quarter for Pelosi !
I dont know how Harris VP is going to help her win the White House?
Or does she really need him to win?

[rsot]

I haven't looked at latest polls because I haven't had time to think about US politics but how are Harris' stats looking for popularity?

[Vinceet]

99% trumps 1% others, that's what you hear internationally

[murdered_by_ebay]

I am sure harris will win , at least I would give her 70%+ probability because there will be massive manipulations of elections again with lots of suspicious postal votes and non-citizens voting en masse

[agent006140]

non citizens would need to keep a low profile,they wont be voting and then get sent back.
But democrats do cheat ,esp those in big cities

[murdered_by_ebay]

low profile? only state by state , there are many states where illegal immigration is welcome

[slokor]

Originally Posted by agent006140

non citizens would need to keep a low profile,they wont be voting and then get sent back.
But democrats do cheat ,esp those in big cities

Democrats cheat you say. Please elaborate and explain how one can 'cheat'.
BTW Covid is over so mail voting will be much lower than the last election which is something Trump is not overly happy about - He is the one trying to push more of it these days.

[agent006140]

Some voters have more than one identify, so they can vote more than once.
Also some voters can vote in one state and then in another,NY and Florida,as they either have second home in Florida or they have retired to Florida but still retain NY residency
There is also foul play at the voting machine,once I voted for state politicians and Federal,the machine flipped my vote for the Fed (president).

[slokor]

Originally Posted by agent006140

Some voters have more than one identify, so they can vote more than once.
Also some voters can vote in one state and then in another,NY and Florida,as they either have second home in Florida or they have retired to Florida but still retain NY residency
There is also foul play at the voting machine,once I voted for state politicians and Federal,the machine flipped my vote for the Fed (president).

Some voters have more than one identity? Meaning more than one Social Security Number? and noone knows? and these are tens of thousands of individuals? in every state? Surely you have not thought your conspiracy theory through.
The system records the Social Security number so one cannot just vote in one state (Florida) than take an expensive flight to another (New York) to try to vote again (and risk being arrested in the process). Calculate the expense that will be to even try to put a dent in the election results. Also, since its pretty much only the swing states that matter doing things this way is less than pointless.
And I just love your last line about the 'evil' machine that decides to change the results.
From all this I can only assume youre a hardcore Trump supporter. Makes sense with the nonsense conspiracies.
As far as actual hard cold facts the record shows that the former president (Trump) actually try to change the election results - or do you not recall that recorded phone call in which he asks officials to 'find' the votes he would need to win the state of Georgia.

[agent006140]

When Nixon lost out to Kennedy,his followers asked him to do something with the fraudulent voting on South side of Chicago,but he declined.
If you know Chicago back then like I do,your captain will make sure you vote and then give you a chicken.
Both parties cheat,thats why democracy is a joke.
It is not too difficult to fix the machine,simple programming.
Country boys do not know how New Yorkers live,they commute between NYC and Florida. at ease.
You can vote anyone you like,this is a free country.
I dont see SSN on my 2023 voting card,may be they do keep track of it,but you just show your naiveness ,it is not too difficult to have more than 1 SSN.
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[rsot]

It certainly does feel like you're theorizing conspiracies agent...

[murdered_by_ebay]

the system does not work by the rules anymore , millions of illegals are let in on purpose in order to reduce influence of the native (do not confuse with american native) population , it is a known fact that people not eligible to vote do vote en masse , the identity checks are weak and most importantly there are no significant checks whether someone is eligible to vote , the democrats bombard every attempt to impose such controls

taking down biden was the right thing to do , they would not be able to get him re-elected without massive manipulation which would attract a lot of attention but with harris it is not going to be a problem , she will be close to trump anyway so that fixing a few percent here and there will not be an issue

all in all , I think the first trump presidency was an accident , they did not expect clinton to lose so they were not prepared , now they are

[slokor]

And more nonsense and conspiracy theories.
This is just sad.

[JamesNorth101]

I'm not so sure about all the voter manipulation theories. Have yet to see anything factually verifying that. No doubt there is some but not on mass in the volume being thrown about.

Its a tough choice. Both have got their pros and their cons. It's really.hard to separate the noise from the facts. In the grand scheme of things I'm not sure it will matter too much who gets voted in. To me personally seems as if the president doesn't actually do a great deal. It's more down to the 2 houses and which ever agenda the big money is pushing at any one time.

[murdered_by_ebay]

it can be called a conspiracy only because there are no courts and judges here , in a criminal case for example they could easily convict people as there would be a motive and a number of co-conspirators

interestingly courts do not need any more proof , if the presented evidence is considered sufficient they easily declare people guilty , the same applies to jury trials , if the story seems to be plausible they convict people without problems

[slokor]

Nope.
It is called a conspiracy theory because you cannot PROVE it and cannot present any EVIDENCE to support said theory (hence it remains a 'theory'). You have to PROVE that there was fraud taking place and so far despite all the nutjobs with their various conspiracy theories there has been no evidence and no proof. But of course thats just a small minute little detail that doesnt stop said nutjobs from trucking on.
And despite what you said the simple fact of the matter is that courts DO require proof and evidence. Where you came up with that little nugget is beyond me. Yet again more conspiracy theories.
Sad and pathetic if you ask me.

[murdered_by_ebay]

illegal immigration and non citizen voting is the proof , even one non citizen vote is manipulation of elections , actually unimaginable in most if not all european countries

[JamesNorth101]

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay

it can be called a conspiracy only because there are no courts and judges here , in a criminal case for example they could easily convict people as there would be a motive and a number of co-conspirators

interestingly courts do not need any more proof , if the presented evidence is considered sufficient they easily declare people guilty , the same applies to jury trials , if the story seems to be plausible they convict people without problems

Im not sure any of this makes sense.

What do you mean courts do not need proof if the presented evidence is enough? That just its a contradiction. Evidence is proof.