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I was hoping he'd get to talking jokes about OJ Simpson.

Ok so what he is saying is that the less population a state has the "Less Educated" the people in that state will be..

LOL

Everyone has a right to their own opinion. We should not be here to make fun of people or to put them down. Imjustme is not right and he is NOT WRONG. It is what he believes to be true. The end.

While I couldn't find info to back up the specific claim that imjustme made, I did find this interesting info. When you consider that the military is made up of average U.S. citizens, it isn't difficult to believe the number he quoted.

Don't know where Iraq is? | Gazette, The (Colorado Springs) | Find Articles at BNET

Survey Reveals Geographic Illiteracy

Things like this should make you cry.
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I agree.. :) But, I felt like I would add a couple cents, since this was a bashing tread against McCain and Palin and the republican party.. ;)

Hmmm.... I just found this, as well:

Gary Younge: What's the matter with voting Republican if you're poor? | Comment is free | The Guardian
I'm sure the above information can be verified, if you want to do it: Census Bureau Home Page

So... that would make the above, not opinion, but fact.

I didn't say that. Read it again.

Yes, I do think I have a better view because I moved around. You can give me a blank world map and I'll fill you in all the country names correctly. Can McCain do that? You'll be lucky if he finds Spain (which he thinks is in South America) or "Yugoslavia" :D

You're in denial and that's okay. It's like the 5 Kubler-Ross stages.

* Denial (I will vote for McCain!)
* Anger (Why is the economy crap and why are US soldiers dying?)
* Bargaining (I may vote Democrat if ...)
* Depression (I was wrong ...geez...)
* Acceptance (I'll vote for Obama!)

You can't see that your party has ruined the economy, wasted 10 billions a month in an unnecessary war for the past few years, and the next guy in line thinks Spain, a key ally in the war on terror, is a rogue state in South America and after 10 years still doesn't know that Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore. It's just scary he calls himself the expert in foreign policy if he doesn't even know the countries.

But if you can look past that and still vote for him, that's a very brave thing.

Hmmmmm -- This sounds to me like you are already looking for excuses as to why your candidate lost the election :)

I am continually amused at how Palin always evades answering questions put to her by non-Fox news agencies.

I can't wait to see that VP debate.

Election 2008: Electoral College Update - September 18, 2008
Electoral College: Obama 193 McCain 189

Palin's husband won't testify in trooper inquiry, campaign says
 

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (CNN) -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's husband won't comply with a subpoena issued by state lawmakers investigating her firing of Alaska's public safety commissioner, the McCain-Palin campaign said Thursday.

Palin's husband won't testify in trooper inquiry, campaign says - CNN.com

You gota love the fact that her husband is REFUSING to comply with the state lawmakers as his wife runs for Vice-President of the USA......
Just another reason to ask your self WTF was John McCain thinking when he picked her..
Was he high or what?????????



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Which would also explain why he's confusing Spain with a South American country and thinks Yugoslavia still exists. He's just senile, no reason not to become President of the United States, right? :D

The map posted earlier reminds me of this map my father-in-law sent me. I was a little horrified when I realized how closely it matches my perceptions. It's amazing how the brain catalogs information and attaches meaning. It made me realize I am not immune to being prejudiced. I guess we all are in our ways. There are some stereotypes I could work on, apparently.

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That map is funny :D But then compare it with the actual Electoral Vote map on the previous page and see what color the "KKK" part is? I guess that's the true reason they don't vote for Obama. Sad...

Perhaps. Who knows? I couldn't really comment on the whys. I haven't been to that part of the country. I have been to a lot of places in the world but haven't traveled that much in my own country. Pretty sad, huh? I guess with the dollar tanking, I will be more inclined to do so in the future as traveling abroad is so expensive these days.

I did read an article that was pretty interesting about how people are moving to be closer to like-minded people. In the 1950's and 1960's you had surges of people moving from rural to urban and then later, suburban areas. Now people are moving to be closer to those that think alike, politically, religiously, etc. People are choosing where to live based on beliefs, which I thought was very interesting. This may account for why some areas are heavily slanted one way or the other when it comes to politics.

Don't get me wrong, I do not like Bush what so ever...

But you do know that he has Narcissistic Personality Disorder AND Early Alzheimer's.... Right?



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As of today, Obama would have 273, McCain 265. The Republicans are losing New Mexico, Colorado, Iowa.

At least we agree on 1 thing.... LOL

But the electoral college still chooses the president and the electoral college chose George W. Bush twice.

Well this isn't about any moderator here, but as for moderators in general. There is just a saying on the internet basically that goes: MODS=FAGS (that link is to a google search that can give relevant hits)


See also: Urban Dictionary: moderator

I'm surprised at how none of the McCain supporters here had anything to say about the fact that McCain thinks Spain is a country in South America that hates the United States. ;)

Obama and McCain are both the same. they all have the same foreign policy.

More good news. McCain is losing Virginia, a state that has voted Republican for the last 16 years.

Personally I am excited to see the Republican party being able to make great strategic plans in their campaign. During the majority portion of Obama's campaign when Hillary was still in it I thought he practically had it in the bag once he would get the nomination. The republican ticket isn't exactly what I wanted in the beginning, but I see it as a winning ticket that has stolen Obama's Change thunder. It's funny to see how its as if change oomph has switched sides.

What world are you living in?

Obama Ahead 56% to 39% in Vote-rich California
Minnesota: Obama Leads McCain 52% to 44% / Coleman 48%, Franken 47% in Minnesota (I hope Al Franken wins the Senate election.)

Obama is a walking hypocrite..

Instead of simply slinging names about, could you please back this statement up with some fact, or an example?
We're trying to have an intelligent discussion here.

LOL!
Maybe something like this: YouTube - McCain: Mayors, Govs Don't Have Nat'l Security Experience
How about this one: YouTube - Cafferty: McCain a hypocrite? 8-15-2008
Look! Another one: YouTube - New McCain Ad: "Hypocrites" vs. "Lipstick"
Another one! They're everywhere, I tell you!: YouTube - McCain Smears Hillary Clinton As Lipstick On A Pig

Oh!... here's another funny one: YouTube - John McCain's ads are LIES. Here's the video proof.

Here's an interesting Fox "News" comparison: YouTube - FOX Attacks Obama Like Kerry

Now there's something we don't see every day, huh? The Republican party being able to actually plan something ... :D

I still don't understand why no McCain supporters can explain why he doesn't know that Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore and he thinks Spain, a key ally on the war on terror, is an anti-US country in South America. He probably couldn't even find Panama, where he was born, on a map.

I'm looking forward to the debates, Obama will rip him apart on that. Goodbye McCain foreign relations experience.

Guess we will find out in November.

More Republican Hypocrisy? Can it be?: YouTube - Sarah Palin And Republican Hypocrisy

And this is off the Fox "News" website!

When one considers picking a Vice Presidential running mate, did you really think a hockey mom from Alaska was even in the realm of possibility?

Well, Palin didn't think so, either. In fact, she wasn't even interested.

Palin's take on being vice president altered over time.

And now McCain wants to pull out of the presidential debate. Guess why? :D Hint: Not because of the economy.

And if he's really that occupied, why not send Palin to the debate with Obama? After all, that's what a VP is here for ..to jump in when the president is busy.

The Debate is back on.

Yay! We get to watch McCain make a fool of himself.

I just had a funny moment.

I called my friend who works in the Seattle headquarters of WAMU and we were chatting about how irrational most investors are and I brought up that old quote by Keynes that goes, "The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent."

She thought I was claiming that McCain said it. She (being a staunch Democrat) indignantly said, "McCain did NOT say that. He was just quoting."

I said, "No, not McCain, Keynes."

We laughed and laughed.

Like McInsane would ever be smart enough to say that. I am no fan of Keynes, most of his theories have been debunked, but he did have a few lucid moments.

As for McInsane...well, I am going to be popping some popcorn tonight and settling in. It should be pretty entertaining.

I should have said: Yay! We get to watch McCain make a fool of himself again.
He's looked foolish before "suspending" his debate, for suspending the debate, and during his visit to the White House (where he sat silent - so much for rushing to the aid of the country).

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please read this email I received from a good friend (my source). Please share this with as many people as possible. This is from a Bryn Mawr college grad to her fellow alums


Dear classmates -

As an Alaskan, I am writing to give all of you some information on Sarah Palin, Senator McCain's choice for VP.

As an Alaska voter, I know more than most of you about her and, frankly, I am horrified that he picked her.

The most accurate description of her is red neck. Her husband works in the oil fields of Prudhoe Bay and races snow mobiles.

She is a life time member of the NRA and has worked tirelessly to allow indiscriminate hunting of wildlife in Alaska , particularly wolves and bears. She has spent millions of Alaska state dollars on aerial hunting of these predators from helicopters and airplanes, dollars that should have been spent, for example, on Alaska 's failing school system.

We have the lowest rate of high school graduation in the country. Not all of you may think aerial predator hunting is so bad, but how anyone (other than Alaska wolf-haters, of which there are many, most without teeth), could think this use of funds is appropriate is beyond me. If you want to know more about the aerial hunting travesty, let me know and I will send some links to informative web sites.

She has been a strong supporter of increased use of fossil fuels, yet the McCain campaign has the nerve to say she has "green" policies. The only thing green about Sarah Palin is her lack of experience. She has consistently supported drilling in ANWR, use of coal-burning power plants (as I write this, a new coal plant is being built in her home town of Wasilla ), strip mining, and almost anything else that will unnecessarily exploit the diminishing resources of Alaska and destroy its environment.

Prior to her one year as governor of Alaska , she was mayor of Wasilla, a small red neck town outside Anchorage.The average maximum education level of parents of junior high school kids in Wasilla is 10th grade. Unfortunately, I have to go to Wasilla every week to get groceries and other supplies, so I have continual contact with the people who put Palin in office in the first place. I know what I'm talking about. These people don't have a concept of the world around them or of the serious issues facing the US . Furthermore, they don't care. So long as they can go out and hunt their moose every fall, kill wolves and bears and drive their snow mobiles and ATVs through every corner of the wilderness, they're happy. I wish I were exaggerating.

Sarah Palin is currently involved in a political corruption scandal. She fired an individual in law enforcement here because she didn't like how he treated one of her relatives during a divorce. The man's performance and ability weren't considered; it was a totally personal firing and is currently under investigation. While the issue isn't close to the scandal of Ted Steven's corruption, it shows that Palin isn't "squeaky clean" and causes me to think there may be more issues that could come to light.

Clearly McCain doesn't care. When you line Palin up with Biden, the comparison would be laughable if it weren't so serious. Sarah Palin knows nothing of economics (admittedly a weak area for McCain), or of international affairs, knows nothing of national government, Social Security, unemployment, health care systems - you name it.

The idea of her meeting with heads of foreign governments around the world truly frightens me. In an increasingly dangerous world, with the economy in shambles in the US , Sarah Palin is uniquely UNqualified to be vice president. John McCain is not a young man. Should something happen to him such that the vice president had to step in, it would destroy our country and possibly the world to have someone as inexperienced and inappropriate as Sarah Palin.

The choice of Palin is a cheap shot by McCain to try to get Hillary supporters to vote for him. when McCain introduced her today, Palin had the nerve to compare herself with Hillary and Geraldine Ferraro. Sarah Palin, you are no Hillary Clinton. To those of you who, like me, supported Hillary and were upset that she did not get the nomination, please don't think that Sarah Palin is a worthy substitute.

If you supported Hillary, regardless of what you think the media and the democratic party may have done to undermine her campaign, the person to support now is Obama, not Sarah Palin. To those of you who are independent or undecided, don't let the choice of Palin sway you in favor of McCain. Choosing her shows how unqualified McCain is to be president. To those of you who are conservative, I guess you have no choice for president. But please try to see how the poor choice of Palin tells us a great deal about McCain's judgment. While the political posturing inherent in the choice of Palin is obvious, the more serious issue is the fact that the VP is, literally, a heartbeat away from the presidency. Sarah Palin is totally and unequivocally unqualified to be vice president, let alone president.

I know this is a lengthy and emotional email, but the stakes are high. I thought it might help for all of you, regardless of political affiliation, to know something about Palin from someone who has to live with her administration in Alaska on a daily basis.

Here's some basic background from MoveOn.org:
* She was elected Alaska 's governor a little over a year and a half ago. Her previous office was mayor of Wasilla, a small town outside Anchorage.1
* Palin is strongly anti-choice, opposing abortion even in the case of rape or incest.2
* She supported right-wing extremist Pat Buchanan for president in 2000. 3
* Palin thinks creationism should be taught in public schools.4
* She's doesn't think humans are the cause of climate change.5
* She's solidly in line with John McCain's "Big Oil first" energy policy. She's pushed hard for more oil drilling and says renewables won't be ready for years. She also sued the Bush administration for listing polar bears as an endangered speciesshe was worried it would interfere with more oil drilling in Alaska.6 Here's a sample of Alaskan's responses:

She is really just a mayor from a small town outside Anchorage who has been a governor for only 1.5 years, and has ZERO national and international experience. I shudder to think that she could be the person taking that 3 AM call on the White House hotline, and the one who could potentially be charged with leading the US in the volatile international scene that exists today. Rose M., Fairbanks , AK

She is VERY, VERY conservative, and far from perfect. She's a hunter and fisherwoman, but votes against the environment again and again. She ran on ethics reform, but is currently under investigation for several charges involving hiring and firing of state officials. She has NO experience beyond Alaska . Christine B., Denali Park , AK

As an Alaskan and a feminist, I am beyond words at this announcement. Palin is not a feminist, and she is not the reformer she claims to be. Karen L., Anchorage , AK

Alaskans, collectively, are just as stunned as the rest of the nation. She is doing well running our State, but is totally inexperienced on the national level, and very much unequipped to run the nation, if it came to that. She is as far right as one can get, which has already been communicated on the news. In our office of thirty employees (dems, republicans, and nonpartisans), not one person feels she is ready for the V.P. position.Sherry C., Anchorage , AK

She's vehemently anti-choice and doesn't care about protecting our natural resources, even though she has worked as a fisherman. McCain chose her to pick up the Hillary voters, but Palin is no Hillary. Marina L., Juneau , AK

I think she's far too inexperienced to be in this position. I'm all for a woman in the White House, but not one who hasn't done anything to deserve it. There are far many other women who have worked their way up and have much more experience that would have been better choices. This is a patronizing decision on John McCain's part- and insulting to females everywhere that he would assume he'll get our vote by putting "A Woman" in that position.Jennifer M., Anchorage, AK[/QUOTE]

i was born and raised on the south side of chicago i was one that lost my job in the steel mills of chicago and ind this obama guy tells the biggest lies and a rascist like his rev !!wright!! and the other guy father !flakey ! and his other buddys rev jackson and fairacon all bad mouth this country you dont want this guy as your leader

flash2782, did you even read the first post in this thread?
I didn't think so.

Oh... wait a minute...
I think this is just another case of you not searching for previous posts before creating a new one.

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oobama wrong change hold on to your wallet $$$$$$$$$$

You did it again!!!
And now you're flip-flopping as much as the Republicans!