| | | Quasi_Mojo | 09-26-2008 05:23 PM | |
| Here We Go Again | 09-26-2008 05:53 PM | So when will they make the mistake and announce that he won Florida in a re-count?
Sunday, November 2nd? |
| flash2782 | 09-27-2008 11:40 AM | sarah palin for vp Obama Wrong Change |
| imjustme | 09-27-2008 12:24 PM | I love the video of Palin where she asks a TV moderator what it is that a Vice President does. |
| imjustme | 09-27-2008 12:27 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Quasi_Mojo
(Post 59844)
| Yeah, apparently McCain is now confusing a debate with a race or with a competition. Debates are here for each candidate to state his position and discuss the issues. It's not a competition or a race. There's no winner.
McCain didn't win. Obama didn't win.
The difference is that McCain doesn't understand it. Obama does. |
| Quasi_Mojo | 09-27-2008 01:19 PM | More posturing from McCain: Quote: McCain "making calls" on bailout latest (quotes are mine)
Posted: 01:00 PM ET
From CNN Correspondent Dana Bash
(CNN)– John McCain is at his national campaign headquarters in Arlington, Virginia at this hour. His campaign tells us he's meeting with advisers regarding the proposed $700 billion federal bailout and the latest negotiations and developments on Capitol Hill, and is "making a lot of calls to make sure that things stay on track."
The campaign says that Senator McCain will head to Capitol Hill later this afternoon. They weren't clear exactly what he's going to actually do when he gets there.
The campaign is touting that, as one aide puts it, McCain's "the glue that is going to potentially bind together House Republicans and Democratic members of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's caucus." But McCain isn't engaging with House Democrats and currently isn't directly involved in the current negotiations, so it's unclear how he's the so-called glue.
When pressed on that, the campaign aide repeated the point that Camp McCain's been making for 24 hours, that McCain is the one who pushed House Republicans back to the negotiating table.
The McCain campaign is also highlighting the contrast between McCain hard at work "showing leadership" and Obama on the trail today in North Carolina, a state the McCain camp says "he won't win."
| CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - McCain making calls on bailout latest « - Blogs from CNN.com
Seems there's been an update: Quote:
UPDATE: CNN Political Producer Tasha Diakides reports that Senior McCain Campaign Adviser Mark Salter says it looks like Senator McCain is not going to the Capitol today and will instead make phone calls from the McCain Campaign HQ in Arlington, Virginia. Salter says the Republican presidential nominee will continue that effort tomorrow, although he can't say definitively that McCain is not traveling tomorrow.
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| flash2782 | 09-27-2008 02:12 PM | Obama Wrong Change A Chicago South Side Lier Along With Is Buddys The Rev Wright Father Flakey And Fariacon I Grew Up On The South Side Of Chicago. Old Barack And His Racist Wife Are Only Now In The Spot Light .but The Media Looks The Other Way |
| Quasi_Mojo | 09-27-2008 09:40 PM | flash2782, instead of continuing to spew your meaningless drivel, could you please keep the name calling in check. If you have a point to make, please back it up with a link, or something.
And what's with that stuff in Post #97? Are you anti-Obama and anti-Palin? Are you voting third-party?
Oh... I think I see what happened. You were trying to quote and reply to the first post, I think. But you screwed it up. |
| Quasi_Mojo | 09-27-2008 10:04 PM | |
| Jonas | 09-28-2008 01:38 AM | |
| Quasi_Mojo | 09-28-2008 01:05 PM | This is too funny! Quote:
McCain retracts Palin's Pakistan comments
From CNN's Emily Sherman
WASHINGTON (CNN)— Sen. John McCain retracted Sarah Palin's stance on Pakistan Sunday morning, after the Alaska governor appeared to back Sen. Barack Obama's support for unilateral strikes inside Pakistan against terrorists.
"She would not…she understands and has stated repeatedly that we're not going to do anything except in America's national security interest," McCain told ABC's George Stephanopoulos of Palin. "In all due respect, people going around and… sticking a microphone while conversations are being held, and then all of a sudden that's—that's a person's position… This is a free country, but I don't think most Americans think that that's a definite policy statement made by Governor Palin."
Saturday night, while on a stop for cheesesteaks in South Philadelphia, Palin was questioned by a Temple graduate student about whether the U.S. should cross the border from Afghanistan into Pakistan.
"If that's what we have to do stop the terrorists from coming any further in, absolutely, we should," Palin said.
During Friday night's presidential debate in Mississippi, Obama took a similar stance and condemned the Bush administration for failing to act on the possibility terrorists are in Pakistan.
"Nobody talked about attacking Pakistan," Obama said after McCain accused the Illinois senator of wanting to announce an invasion. "If the United States has al Qaeda, bin Laden, top-level lieutenants in our sights, and Pakistan is unable or unwilling to act, then we should take them out."
McCain emphasized Sunday, Palin "shares" his view on the matter.
| Why, that's absurd! We can't expect the VP Elect to actually know what she's talking about! |
| Quasi_Mojo | 09-28-2008 05:23 PM | |
| Jonas | 09-29-2008 03:28 AM | Doesn't Palin want to invade Russia? |
| imjustme | 09-29-2008 07:30 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonas
(Post 60096)
Doesn't Palin want to invade Russia? | Yeah. Apparently Palin and McCain are even more stupid than Bush. They're talking about potential wars with Russia and Iran. Both have nuclear weapons. Bush was stupid but at least smart enough to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, both which had virtually no army and no WMD's. Russia however has 20,000 nuclear weapons. Iran has at least a few. :rolleyes: |
| BooMer | 09-29-2008 09:27 AM | Do you even Know what she is Talking about? |
| Quasi_Mojo | 09-29-2008 12:33 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Quasi_Mojo
(Post 58685)
| Election 2008: Electoral College Update - September 27, 2008 Electoral College: Obama 200 / McCain 174
When “leaners” are included, it’s Obama 255, McCain 227. |
| imjustme | 09-29-2008 04:12 PM | McCain is like poop in the toilet bowl. Ready to be flushed. :D |
| Quasi_Mojo | 09-29-2008 07:46 PM | |
| HateEbay | 09-29-2008 08:24 PM | I agree with Imjustme. People living in the states like California, New York tend to be more educated and know about outside world much better than people living in Nebraska, Arkansas, Missisispi, etc. If you travel outside of US and see American visitors in foreign countries, chances are they are from liberal states like California, New York. That is the reality. |
| Here We Go Again | 09-29-2008 09:03 PM | Really??????
I am from Arkansas. Do I seem less educated to you? |
| Jonas | 09-30-2008 10:16 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by imjustme
(Post 60109)
Yeah. Apparently Palin and McCain are even more stupid than Bush. They're talking about potential wars with Russia and Iran. Both have nuclear weapons. Bush was stupid but at least smart enough to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, both which had virtually no army and no WMD's. Russia however has 20,000 nuclear weapons. Iran has at least a few. :rolleyes: |
It would have been better if they simply invaded Canada instead. |
| Jonas | 09-30-2008 10:31 AM | Bill Clinton was from Arkansas.
As for the account that tried to sell Palin's jet eBay Feedback Profile for stateofalaskasurplus eBay Feedback Profile for stateofalaskasurplus
There was 1 neg Quote:
Didn't say anything about dry rot. Buyer: kl1256 ( 10) Dec-15-06 12:28
Reply by stateofalaskasurplus (Dec-22-06 08:43):
Items were available for visual inspection 12-11-06 through 12-13-06
-- (#250052124503)
| I looked at the sent feedback and they ended up leaving kl1256 a positive a month after they negged the account.
Not very ebay-savvy. That was back at the end of 2006. kl1256 should have panicked when they got the neg, then negged kl1256 back and tried to get a mutual withdraw. If that failed, try to convince ebay to remove the neg. If that failed, then sell 1000 cheap items like ebooks (not penny auctions necessarily, but just cheap items that are easy to sell) to boost their percentage, then get a better rating.
eBay is not the place to sell a 2.5 million jet. They'll get a buyer saying "I only pay through paypal". So the buyer pays via paypal 2.5 million and then you know what paypal does.... |
| Quasi_Mojo | 09-30-2008 07:24 PM | |
| Slavaja | 10-02-2008 02:11 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by imjustme
(Post 60109)
Yeah. Apparently Palin and McCain are even more stupid than Bush. They're talking about potential wars with Russia and Iran. Both have nuclear weapons. Bush was stupid but at least smart enough to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, both which had virtually no army and no WMD's. Russia however has 20,000 nuclear weapons. Iran has at least a few. :rolleyes: | If you think McCain and Palin is more stupid then Bush then Obama is stupid as well because McCain, Palin and Obama are equally stupid. why?? because they are both the same. |
| imjustme | 10-02-2008 04:25 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Slavaja
(Post 60467)
If you think McCain and Palin is more stupid then Bush then Obama is stupid as well because McCain, Palin and Obama are equally stupid. why?? because they are both the same. | You mean, as in the same person? :eek: |
| Slavaja | 10-02-2008 07:18 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by imjustme
(Post 60468)
You mean, as in the same person? :eek: | i mean that they have the same political view. so it doesn't matter who u vote for. America will just stay the same if Obama or McCain is voted in. but o well its a controlled election anyways.
"Those who cast the votes decide nothing.Those who count the votes decide everything." JOSEF Stalin |
| Quasi_Mojo | 10-02-2008 11:42 AM | You're entitled to your opinion, Slavaja.
But it would be better if you posted facts and backed them up with sources. Saying McCain and Obama are the same is not a fact. They may share some ideas, but that's about as far as it goes. |
| ebayhateluv | 10-02-2008 12:47 PM | OK, so who's gonna win the debate tonight?? |
| flash2782 | 10-02-2008 12:54 PM | who here is from the south side of chicago |
| flash2782 | 10-02-2008 01:02 PM | who cares about obama a coke sniffer pot head from south side of chicago rascist hes all b.s . three dog night lier lier |
| flash2782 | 10-02-2008 01:58 PM | your info is wrong palin she said she put the plane on ebay .she never said she sold it on ebay . |
| imjustme | 10-02-2008 02:46 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by flash2782
(Post 60506)
your info is wrong palin she said she put the plane on ebay .she never said she sold it on ebay . | Which is misleading. Why would she say that she put it on eBay, but not say that she didn't sell it? Obviously it makes people believe that she sold it on eBay. |
| Quasi_Mojo | 10-02-2008 05:03 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by flash2782
(Post 60506)
your info is wrong palin she said she put the plane on ebay .she never said she sold it on ebay . | Actually, flash2782, if you had bothered to read my post, you would see that I never said that: Quote:
Originally Posted by Quasi_Mojo
(Post 60192)
Just a reminder: She didn't sell the jet on eBay. It was sold through a brokerage - for a loss, and not a profit, as McCain said. Palin was always careful not to say she "sold" the jet on eBay. | Again, if you can't back your smears up with facts derived from a credible source - and provide a link - please keep your comments to yourself. |
| flash2782 | 10-02-2008 07:16 PM | back off your not even from the usa . who are you to talk about what goes on here in the usa. i heard obama wants invade canada when he wins |
| aspkin | 10-02-2008 07:26 PM | Children, don't make me close this thread. We're all entitled to our opinions, *cough OBAMA FTW!
Carry on.. |
| Quasi_Mojo | 10-02-2008 09:22 PM | In fact, I was born and raised in Indiana. I served in the US Army and the Indiana National Guard for a total of 8 years. My entire family (I'm the youngest of 10 children) still lives in the US, so I certainly do have the right to my opinion.
In response to flash2782's cocaine "conviction", I put forth the following: Quote:
...
First of all, Obama is hardly the first prominent politician to acknowledge youthful indiscretions involving illegal drugs. Fourteen years ago, Bill Clinton easily survived his discussions of smoking marijuana, and drew far more criticism for his dodgy, weasel-words regarding his experience ("I smoked, but I didn't inhale") than for his one-time exposure to the demon weed.
Al Gore also admitted to dope indulgence (and reportedly became a heavy user at Harvard, which may help explain the spectacularly weird workings of his mind) as did Newt Gingrich and John Kerry. George W. Bush refused to share specifics of his own drug experience beyond a general acknowledgment of a rowdy youth ("when I was young and stupid, I was young and stupid"). Still, he did little to contradict ubiquitous reports of his consumption of booze, marijuana and even cocaine.
If the American people managed to elect (twice) a stonewalling, wealthy frat boy from a spectacularly privileged family despite his reported involvement with illegal substances [George W. Bush], they will readily forgive (and even embrace) a mixed-race kid from a troubled background whose father abandoned him in his infancy and who wrote candidly, long before his presidential campaign, of his regrettable participation in the drug culture.
Obama suggests in his books that he used marijuana and "blow" to ease the pain of his ongoing struggle to define his racial identity, and that association makes it all but unthinkable that even the most ruthless political operative would attempt to make an issue of long-ago substance abuse.
| ABC News: Obama's Cocaine Confessional Won't 'Blow' His Chances
I watched the VP debate tonight, and I'm saddened to say that Palin seems to have done well (not that I believed anything she said). Were all those terrible interviews simply a smokescreen? |
| Jonas | 10-02-2008 10:58 PM | News at Wave of House converts jump aboard bailout bill - Yahoo! News Quote:
Black lawmakers said personal calls from Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama helped switch them from "no" to "yes."
| Obama is going around and personally trying to convince people to steal trillions from taxpayers to give to rich billionaire CEOs. |
| aspkin | 10-02-2008 11:23 PM | I think the bailout is a necessary evil. Without it, the US economy would most likely collapse and we would all be in serious trouble. But that's just my opinion. |
| Quasi_Mojo | 10-02-2008 11:45 PM | What is your point with the quote? McCain was calling people, too. It said so in the same article: Quote:
Obama and his Republican rival, John McCain, phoned reluctant lawmakers for their help.
| It's not like they were trying to hide that. Bringing race into that is inexcusable.
As for your comment on stealing "trillions from taxpayers to give to rich billionaire CEOs", Obama has stated clearly, from the start, what he wants included in the bill - no CEO welfare. And he got it!
I'll include this portion of the bailout bill (PDF file link) here, because it's a little difficult to read from the PDF: Quote: SEC. 111. EXECUTIVE COMPENSATION AND CORPORATE GOVERNANCE.
(a) APPLICABILITY.—Any financial institution that sells troubled assets to the Secretary under this Act shall be subject to the executive compensation requirements of subsections (b) and (c) and the provisions under the Internal Revenue Code of 1986, as provided under the amendment by section 302, as applicable.
(b) DIRECT PURCHASES. —
(1) IN GENERAL. — Where the Secretary determines that the purposes of this Act are best met through direct purchases of troubled assets from an individual financial institution where no bidding process or market prices are available, and the Secretary receives a meaningful equity or debt position in the financial institution as a result of the transaction, the Secretary shall require that the financial institution meet appropriate standards for executive compensation and corporate governance. The standards required under this subsection shall be effective for the duration of the period that the Secretary holds an equity or debt position in the financial institution.
(2) CRITERIA. — The standards required under this subsection shall include —
(A) limits on compensation that exclude incentives for senior executive officers of a financial institution to take unnecessary and excessive risks that threaten the value of the financial institution during the period that the Secretary holds an equity or debt position in the financial institution;
(B) a provision for the recovery by the financial institution of any bonus or incentive compensation paid to a senior executive officer based on statements of earnings, gains, or other criteria that are later proven to be materially inaccurate; and
(C) a prohibition on the financial institution making any golden parachute payment to its senior executive officer during the period that the Secretary holds an equity or debt position in the financial institution.
(3) DEFINITION. — For purposes of this section, the term ‘‘senior executive officer’’ means an individual who is one of the top 5 highly paid executives of a public company, whose compensation is required to be disclosed pursuant to the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and any regulations issued thereunder, and non-public company counterparts.
(c) AUCTION PURCHASES. — Where the Secretary determines that the purposes of this Act are best met through auction purchases of troubled assets, and only where such purchases per financial institution in the aggregate exceed $300,000,000 (including direct purchases), the Secretary shall prohibit, for such financial institution, any new employment contract with a senior executive officer that provides a golden parachute in the event of an involuntary termination, bankruptcy filing, insolvency, or receivership. The Secretary shall issue guidance to carry out this paragraph not later than 2 months after the date of enactment of this Act, and such guidance shall be effective upon issuance.
(d) SUNSET.—The provisions of subsection (c) shall apply only to arrangements entered into during the period during which the authorities under section 101(a) are in effect, as determined under section 120.
| Now McCain, however, said that he would not vote yes on any bill that included pork barrel spending. Well, this latest bill is loaded to the gills with deep-fried pork spending, and guess what... McCain voted yes. Glenn Beck believes that McCain just lost the election. |
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