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rsot 06-16-2014 04:44 AM

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Another solid thrashing...highest average win differential in NBA final history - wallop

Sandy D 06-16-2014 02:08 PM

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With Wade pretty much done the only reason Lebron stays in Miami is if they make some moves.

The bench just got too old, Wade might as well stayed home and Lebron had no help from anyone.

Chalmers is a lousy guard and I see Allen moving on or retiring as well as Battier.

Next I wonder if Duncan will retire or not.

rsot 06-16-2014 02:56 PM

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Wade was looking old and lacked production. Could be time for Lebron to move on to younger pastures

Sandy D 06-16-2014 11:31 PM

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Something tells me that Bosh and Lebron want to win more rings.

So if Pat Riley does not make some moves to get a point guard and a younger bench and someone who can do what Wade used to do they will move on.

Lets face it, going to 4 finals in 4 years and winning two of them does not happen a lot.

I think they will stick together if Riley pulls in some help.

dealagreeproceed 06-17-2014 12:13 AM

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bring in melo to take wades spot... OV :rip:

Sandy D 06-17-2014 12:31 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dealagreeproceed (Post 560588)
bring in melo to take wades spot... OV :rip:

Not enough basketballs as he is a true ball hog.

rsot 06-17-2014 10:39 AM

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Sandy D 06-18-2014 01:29 AM

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Maybe both Lebron and Melo both end up in Chicago....


Riley had better get some movement going on or Lebron could be gone.

rsot 06-18-2014 03:43 AM

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Riley is something else as well - basket-case

Sandy D 06-18-2014 11:33 PM

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Something tells me you are going to see a lot of movement in the NBA this off season.

rsot 06-19-2014 03:32 AM

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Debates about where Carmelo ends up - dont think Lebron will move though

vogeltron 06-19-2014 05:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 561041)
Debates about where Carmelo ends up - dont think Lebron will move though

East is by far the easiest Road to the finals. I don't see Lebron going to the the West. Even making and losing the Finals means more to ones legacy than winning in many instances.

Bulls or Cavs are the only potential places. I don't see him going back to heat with a broken down wade unless someone like Parsons comes on board.

rsot 06-19-2014 11:52 AM

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Bulls would be something stronger with him for sure

Sandy D 06-19-2014 03:52 PM

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Lebron going to the Spurs.....


:clap:

LOL

vogeltron 06-19-2014 06:31 PM

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Reading the Warriors are upping their offer to try to acquire Kevin Love from the T-Wolves.

evicktd 06-19-2014 06:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vogeltron (Post 561172)
Reading the Warriors are upping their offer to try to acquire Kevin Love from the T-Wolves.

Every playoff contending team should be doing this

evicktd 06-19-2014 06:36 PM

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K Love would fit well on OKC

Sandy D 06-19-2014 07:04 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by evicktd (Post 561174)
K Love would fit well on OKC

Yes he would.

They made a huge mistake moving Harden.

Teams can double on the other scorers and with Love they would not be able to.

Dont think Thompson for Love would be an even trade at all. Thompson is not in the same leaque as Love.

evicktd 06-20-2014 01:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy D (Post 561176)
Dont think Thompson for Love would be an even trade at all. Thompson is not in the same leaque as Love.

That's a laughable trade. D-Lee + Thompson is more reasonable. Or some of those other guards Warriors has. Though it's better to get something then nothing, since Love is worth nothing without a contact

vogeltron 06-20-2014 02:25 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by evicktd (Post 561231)
That's a laughable trade. D-Lee + Thompson is more reasonable. Or some of those other guards Warriors has. Though it's better to get something then nothing, since Love is worth nothing without a contact

I don't think they will move any of the other pcs. As much as I like Thompson, Guards or replaceable. It might actually be better if Curry becomes more of a two. As seen in the playoffs he turns the ball over way too much playing the point. Will be interesting to see what happens.

rsot 06-20-2014 04:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy D (Post 561152)
Lebron going to the Spurs.....


:clap:

LOL

That would be hilarious ha

Sandy D 06-20-2014 02:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 561253)
That would be hilarious ha

No, it would be a ring.

LOL

rsot 06-20-2014 08:13 PM

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If Lebron joins Pacers though, he can finish what Stevenson started with the sweet whispers of nothing in his ear .... :eek:

Sandy D 06-21-2014 02:47 AM

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Now you have a possible no. 1 NBA draft pick who has an injury.

Cavs had better pass on him and take Wiggins.

Sandy D 06-22-2014 01:32 AM

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I can see a blockbuster trade coming soon.

With all the talk I can see a lot of movement from major teams and players.

vogeltron 06-22-2014 03:32 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 561385)
If Lebron joins Pacers though, he can finish what Stevenson started with the sweet whispers of nothing in his ear .... :eek:

I would be shocked if he was back with the heat. I think himself and Carmelo will try to make a run together somewhere in the East. Maybe include Chandler Parsons. I doubt he would go to West it is just to strong. In the East you could essentially be a 6-7 seed and be the top seed in the east. I know it isn't ideal but making the finals even if you lose is still better than not getting there. Legacy wise. I think Lebron is all about Legacy now. He has enough money from outside playing basketball it is not a problem.

rsot 06-22-2014 05:57 AM

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Did he ever state how many rings he wants? Or anything like that?

Gamefreak 06-23-2014 11:59 AM

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if lebron really wants to cement his "the greatest" of all time legacy he needs to go to the west and win like he does in the east. otherwise for me personally he's.. ehh...

east is weak and will be for years to come. the west well damn anyone can not make it there

Sandy D 06-23-2014 01:40 PM

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I dont think he needs rings to be mentioned as one the best ever.

But...

He knows many fans count rings because of MJ. We never heard of rings until MJ much.

Now the bar has been lifted to how many rings does one have?

He is the best player today and one of the best ever with out without rings to me but with todays "how many rings" do you have pressure I see him moving on to a team that will want to win.

He hates to lose, we all know that. Any good player hates to lose.

If Miami does not make some moves I see him landing somewhere else.
It does not need to be in the west.

People pile on more "if he wants to be great he need to do this and that" onto him.

He could retire today and already is being discussed as one of the best ever.


*** Vogeltron

I agree, he just made 32 mils on the Dre Beat deal alone.

vogeltron 06-25-2014 04:35 AM

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James is great in every aspect. Other than his "decision" show he has been a stand up on everything during his career I won't fault him for that.

The one thing I always liked about Jordan was when he retired to play Baseball. Not saying it was the right decision. But at age 30 in professional sports and being the best player at his sport. He said you know what I want to go try what I really wanted to do a kid. Play Baseball.... I have always admired him for that.

We can compare Players and teams forever. James in his defense was never given a Pippen and all the role players in Cleveland. They had many opportunities to do so. You can't blame him for that.

I think the difference between James and Jordan is... That people look back at that era of the NBA somewhat as its golden age. Before all the tattoos and all the arrests etc. When the NBA still had a more clean cut image and Michael was the star among stars. Not to mention the craze even today between the Jordan Nike shoes and the brand. Remember when Jordan's Rookie card came out in the 80's the NBA was so lost they only had a single card set for two years of basketball.

James may be as great of talent no questions asked. But Jordan has that legacy. I can remember sports coaches saying Michael Jordan got cut from his H.S. basketball team. Look what happened. Sometimes the legend is just bigger. Jordan has that.

rsot 06-25-2014 05:15 AM

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Thursday draft day.

@vogeltron, impressive reference of the single card set for 2 years of basketball :thumb: I remember that

Sandy D 06-25-2014 02:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by vogeltron (Post 562126)
James is great in every aspect. Other than his "decision" show he has been a stand up on everything during his career I won't fault him for that.

The one thing I always liked about Jordan was when he retired to play Baseball. Not saying it was the right decision. But at age 30 in professional sports and being the best player at his sport. He said you know what I want to go try what I really wanted to do a kid. Play Baseball.... I have always admired him for that.

We can compare Players and teams forever. James in his defense was never given a Pippen and all the role players in Cleveland. They had many opportunities to do so. You can't blame him for that.

I think the difference between James and Jordan is... That people look back at that era of the NBA somewhat as its golden age. Before all the tattoos and all the arrests etc. When the NBA still had a more clean cut image and Michael was the star among stars. Not to mention the craze even today between the Jordan Nike shoes and the brand. Remember when Jordan's Rookie card came out in the 80's the NBA was so lost they only had a single card set for two years of basketball.

James may be as great of talent no questions asked. But Jordan has that legacy. I can remember sports coaches saying Michael Jordan got cut from his H.S. basketball team. Look what happened. Sometimes the legend is just bigger. Jordan has that.


My brothers made a killing on Jordon rookie cards.

:clap:

Sandy D 06-26-2014 09:39 PM

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Orlando radio show said he thinks Lebron is going back to Cleveland as long as he can take a couple players like he did in Miami with him.

They have a great guard, picked Wiggins and need a few pieces of the puzzle he is saying.


Anyone else see this happening?

dealagreeproceed 06-27-2014 12:03 AM

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that would be crazy. I find it hard to believe. they would have to bring one more superstar down there with him... I find it weird that a superstar jumps from team to team. maybe im ol school

Sandy D 06-27-2014 12:35 AM

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Heat got a very good point guard which they needed badly in Napier. Chalmers is pretty much useless.

The only way James stays in Miami is if they sign or trade for a shooting guard who can replace Wade who cannot go through another season like this last one.

Wade actually cost Miami badly trying to play when he cannot any longer due to his constantly being hurt.

vogeltron 06-27-2014 02:38 AM

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I think he heads for Houston, or possibly the Warriors if they trade for Kevin Love. He will definitely go to the team who has the most pcs ready. I think he wants to stay in the East because it is an easier road to the finals. But depending on who lands where he will go to the place with the most talent. I would be shocked if he stayed in Miami.

rsot 06-27-2014 06:06 AM

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Just more hype for James so he can do another tv special ha

Sandy D 06-27-2014 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by vogeltron (Post 562510)
I think he heads for Houston, or possibly the Warriors if they trade for Kevin Love. He will definitely go to the team who has the most pcs ready. I think he wants to stay in the East because it is an easier road to the finals. But depending on who lands where he will go to the place with the most talent. I would be shocked if he stayed in Miami.

Who wants to play with the crybaby Dwight Howard?

Selfish Dwight who has amazing talents but chooses to not use them.

mizzle 06-27-2014 08:07 PM

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Lebron not going anywhere. Not many places more appealing than Mia. No state tax, eastern conference, and proven championship team.. I would've entertained the debate but after the Napier acquisition this thing is in the books.

Sandy D 06-28-2014 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mizzle (Post 562719)
Lebron not going anywhere. Not many places more appealing than Mia. No state tax, eastern conference, and proven championship team.. I would've entertained the debate but after the Napier acquisition this thing is in the books.

They will need to keep Bosh, Allen and replace Oden, Wade, Battier or he is a goner.

He knows this same team without a healthy Wade wont beat the west teams.

People here in Florida are saying if he can get Melo or Bosh to follow him he will go back to Cleveland.

Dwight Howard is probably one of the most dominant players in the game but the last couple of years has become lazy and a crybaby so I cannot see him going to Houston.

Money is not going to be the issue for him.


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