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| vogeltron | 07-14-2014 05:19 AM |
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Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 566871)
Amen on that.
| As if right now the top 6 teams in the West are better than the top one in the East.
The Paul Gasol signing for the Bulls is huge. It is a big "if" but Derek Rose healthy will mean the Bulls win the East. That is the X factor.
Unless D-Wade gets some youth back in his Step they are not championship. But, the Heat are still a playoff team with how weak the East is. With the Deng signing. Very interesting.
The Mavericks if they get Parsons and they already got Al Jefferson. They almost upset the Spurs in the first round. Cuban is no dummy this far into his tenure as owner. The Mavericks will be the surprise team in the West this year in my Opinion. I like them as the 2 seed over the Thunder, Rockets, Clippers, Warriors, Blazers, Grizzlies. Unless something dramatically changes.
My sleeper in the East in the Nets. Only because they got the coach I wanted my Warriors to get. Lionel Hollens is tough cookie. I expect much less nonsense in Brooklyn than went on last year. That might be the equivalent of Jim Harbaugh taking over a talented 49ers roster in year 1. Very well could take this team to the Eastern Conference finals. |
| Sandy D | 07-14-2014 03:54 PM |
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Deng signing with the Heat was an odd move by him.
If Bosh leaves they wont make the playoffs. |
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Thought Bosh already signed 5 more years with Heat for about 120 mil - last I checked |
| vogeltron | 07-15-2014 04:13 AM |
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Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 567189)
Thought Bosh already signed 5 more years with Heat for about 120 mil - last I checked
| Heat will reward Bosh for taking less. I am actually quite interested to see him without Lebron at this stage in his Career. Unless Wade magically gets his legs back. He is the guy once again. |
| Sandy D | 07-15-2014 04:35 PM |
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Originally Posted by vogeltron
(Post 567206)
Heat will reward Bosh for taking less. I am actually quite interested to see him without Lebron at this stage in his Career. Unless Wade magically gets his legs back. He is the guy once again.
| I dont think Bosh is as good as people think he is.
With Deng signed and wonder if they will even make the playoffs now? |
| vogeltron | 07-15-2014 04:51 PM |
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Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 567388)
I dont think Bosh is as good as people think he is.
With Deng signed and wonder if they will even make the playoffs now?
| As long as Wade Plays. The heat are still a playoff team. Not a title contender but in the East as weak as that conference has been. They should be like 5-7 seed. |
| Sandy D | 07-15-2014 05:30 PM |
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Originally Posted by vogeltron
(Post 567391)
As long as Wade Plays. The heat are still a playoff team. Not a title contender but in the East as weak as that conference has been. They should be like 5-7 seed.
| Dang you are starting to be like rsot repeating everything a 100 times. :bounce:
We know, we know the easy is weak.
Do you have something you dislike about the East Coast?
Most of the best athletes in the entire country comes from the east coast and south east part of the country.
Wade does not have much gas left in the tank. |
| GreenBean | 07-15-2014 07:12 PM |
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Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 567408)
Dang you are starting to be like rsot repeating everything a 100 times. :bounce:
| Male thing, Sandy.
It's part of practising to get to a 3rd date.
Peat and repeat what gets said.
:croc: |
| vogeltron | 07-15-2014 07:38 PM |
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Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 567433)
Male thing, Sandy.
It's part of practising to get to a 3rd date.
Peat and repeat what gets said.
:croc:
| Giving out my secrets. LOL
Subliminal messaging. |
| vogeltron | 07-15-2014 07:42 PM |
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Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 567408)
Dang you are starting to be like rsot repeating everything a 100 times. :bounce:
Do you have something you dislike about the East Coast?
| Na, just that the Eastern Conference is not as good as the Western Conference in its entirety. It has been that way for almost a decade now. Multiple years there have been teams with losing records to make the playoffs.
But yes, most of the folks out here on the West Coast get sick of East Coast sports media bias. |
| GreenBean | 07-15-2014 07:44 PM |
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Originally Posted by vogeltron
(Post 567446)
Giving out my secrets. LOL
Subliminal messaging.
| Who loves you, Baby!!!!
:clap: |
| Sandy D | 07-15-2014 09:14 PM |
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Originally Posted by vogeltron
(Post 567449)
Na, just that the Eastern Conference is not as good as the Western Conference in its entirety. It has been that way for almost a decade now. Multiple years there have been teams with losing records to make the playoffs.
But yes, most of the folks out here on the West Coast get sick of East Coast sports media bias.
| East bias? Really.
And I thought it was the opposite because most sportd teams of all kinds who win championships easr. Sec football for example. |
| vogeltron | 07-15-2014 10:23 PM |
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Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 567476)
East bias? Really.
And I thought it was the opposite because most sportd teams of all kinds who win championships easr. Sec football for example.
| You are just perpetuating it. The Raptors finished 3rd in the East they had a 48-34. The Phoneix Suns missed the playoffs with that same record.
Sorry Sandy but the Eastern Conference in the NBA is garbage. The Mavericks the 8 seed gave the Spurs a better run than the Heat. The Hawks didn't even have a winning record. Pathetic. |
| Sandy D | 07-16-2014 12:05 AM |
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Originally Posted by vogeltron
(Post 567488)
You are just perpetuating it. The Raptors finished 3rd in the East they had a 48-34. The Phoneix Suns missed the playoffs with that same record.
Sorry Sandy but the Eastern Conference in the NBA is garbage. The Mavericks the 8 seed gave the Spurs a better run than the Heat. The Hawks didn't even have a winning record. Pathetic.
| I am not talking NBA alone. Overall sports, NCAAs, NBA, MLB, NFL etc etc are mainly dominated by east coast teams.
The reason sports radio and other media talk about the east coast and it is not biased it is because clearly east coast wins major things more, the best players in all of sports come from this side of the Mississippi.
Come to Florida if you want to see some amazing kids in HS who are going to be NFL, NBA, MLB etc players. This place is loaded with talent.
My daughters HS has no less then 5 players that signed with SEC teams and people here say all 5 will be in the NFL before they get 2 years in college played.
Two were drafted in the NBA recently. Her HS has 7 in the NFL, 4 in the NBA, 3 play MLB right now and all came from a HS that is not that old.
One kid won the US High school track and field medals in 2 different races.
Amazing the kids who come from just Florida who can flat out play. |
| vogeltron | 07-16-2014 01:59 AM |
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Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 567511)
I am not talking NBA alone. Overall sports, NCAAs, NBA, MLB, NFL etc etc are mainly dominated by east coast teams.
The reason sports radio and other media talk about the east coast and it is not biased it is because clearly east coast wins major things more, the best players in all of sports come from this side of the Mississippi.
Come to Florida if you want to see some amazing kids in HS who are going to be NFL, NBA, MLB etc players. This place is loaded with talent.
My daughters HS has no less then 5 players that signed with SEC teams and people here say all 5 will be in the NFL before they get 2 years in college played.
Two were drafted in the NBA recently. Her HS has 7 in the NFL, 4 in the NBA, 3 play MLB right now and all came from a HS that is not that old.
One kid won the US High school track and field medals in 2 different races.
Amazing the kids who come from just Florida who can flat out play.
| California produces the most NFL talent. It produces more MLB talent than the second Texas and Florida put together. And it produces the most NBA talent.
If you ever turn on the Womens College World series. Look at the rosters even for the teams in the SEC half of them are from like a 100 mile radius in Southern California.
Unless you are in the inner city of Los Angeles or Oakland. The Majority of the state plays American past time. Baseball. |
| Sandy D | 07-16-2014 03:32 AM |
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Originally Posted by vogeltron
(Post 567514)
California produces the most NFL talent. It produces more MLB talent than the second Texas and Florida put together. And it produces the most NBA talent.
If you ever turn on the Womens College World series. Look at the rosters even for the teams in the SEC half of them are from like a 100 mile radius in Southern California.
Unless you are in the inner city of Los Angeles or Oakland. The Majority of the state plays American past time. Baseball.
|
It is because California is a huge state and has the population.
All warm weather states produce talent.
If you use per capita, Indiana produces the most NBA player which I was surprised. |
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Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 567537)
It is because California is a huge state and has the population.
All warm weather states produce talent.
If you use per capita, Indiana produces the most NBA player which I was surprised.
| Definitely the populations shift - and the warm weather allows for more pep :)
As for Indiana...that is surprising - time to search the rankings of others. |
| vogeltron | 07-16-2014 03:52 AM |
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Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 567537)
It is because California is a huge state and has the population.
All warm weather states produce talent.
If you use per capita, Indiana produces the most NBA player which I was surprised.
| The MLB production rate is quite surprising to me. I would expect huge population area's like the greater Phoenix area to procedure much more. But it hasn't.
Warm weather really doesn't have much to do with Basketball. Baseball I agree, as to why California, Florida, Texas have like Zero NHL Players.
But basketball is different. It is largely an inner city game. With the exception of Indiana where H.S. Basketball is "religion" like Football is is in Texas.
I don't understand how so many Football players come out of California to be honest. I would think Texas would triumph it with all the money going into H.S. football programs. In the Bay Area and L.A. Area you have all these die hard Liberals who want the game banned because it is to violent. Won't allow their kids to play. Would rather them get their participation trophy playing Commie Kick Ball. |
| Sandy D | 07-16-2014 03:53 AM |
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Want to laugh?
You have to use per capita to get an accurate measurement.
Louisiana is at the top of all major sports players as the state they were born it.
Covering all sports. |
| vogeltron | 07-16-2014 04:11 AM |
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Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 567545)
Want to laugh?
You have to use per capita to get an accurate measurement.
Louisiana is at the top of all major sports players as the state they were born it.
Covering all sports.
| Yea, it is hard to determine. Having a background in Economics you have to make sure it is statistically significant. Like I saw per Capita South Dakota with 3 MLB players has the highest rate per population right now in the MLB.
But yea. There are definitely areas in the U.S. that turn out talent. Looking up a few things I have no idea how much talent came out of Oakland, CA. Bill Russell, Frank Robinson, Jason Kidd, Gary Payton, Ricky Henderson, Maurice Jones-Drew, Dennis Eckersley, Damion Lillard, Joe Morgan, Jimmy Rollins . Honorable mention to Vida Pinson, Curt Flood, and Leon Powe, Isiah Rider, Brian Shaw, Dontrelle Willis. Missing a bunch. I had no idea. Oakland is sketch. Even though it is a big city that is a ton of HOF talent. |
| vogeltron | 07-16-2014 04:20 AM |
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Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 567451)
Who loves you, Baby!!!!
:clap:
| Lol, honestly. If I was with someone even if they weren't the most appealing person in many categories. If they met the minimum, I would still probably be suckered in if someone had a positive feedback loop like that at-least for a while.
I have to say I haven't had the experience. But some Women are very manipulative in getting men to go a certain direction. Each side has their own strategies. |
| Sandy D | 07-16-2014 04:39 AM |
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Originally Posted by vogeltron
(Post 567561)
Yea, it is hard to determine. Having a background in Economics you have to make sure it is statistically significant. Like I saw per Capita South Dakota with 3 MLB players has the highest rate per population right now in the MLB.
But yea. There are definitely areas in the U.S. that turn out talent. Looking up a few things I have no idea how much talent came out of Oakland, CA. Bill Russell, Frank Robinson, Jason Kidd, Gary Payton, Ricky Henderson, Maurice Jones-Drew, Dennis Eckersley, Damion Lillard, Joe Morgan, Jimmy Rollins . Honorable mention to Vida Pinson, Curt Flood, and Leon Powe, Isiah Rider, Brian Shaw, Dontrelle Willis. Missing a bunch. I had no idea. Oakland is sketch. Even though it is a big city that is a ton of HOF talent.
|
Warm weather helps. Kids here play two seasons of baseball instead of one like most up north do. |
| vogeltron | 07-16-2014 04:46 AM |
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Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 567578)
Warm weather helps. Kids here play two seasons of baseball instead of one like most up north do.
| I am just so surprised the AZ has not seen a huge increase of MLB talent. The Phoenix area has grown so much in the past 10-20 years. Each of the surrounding cities have huge baseball complexes. Granted if you are counting by birth place this is an area of transplants so that might make a difference. But I would have assumed it would have been a hot bed for Baseball.
Similar to the greater Toronto area producing more and more Basketball talent since the Raptors went up there. Example: Andrew Wiggins. |
| Sandy D | 07-16-2014 07:08 PM |
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Kids today do not play on playgrounds like they used to.
With a large family and lots of boys they always were coming home bloody from playing football or basketball all year around on the playgrounds.
Now kids sit on their butts and dont play like we did when we were all kids.
My parents would not allow us to sit in the house. |
| vogeltron | 07-16-2014 07:56 PM |
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Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 567767)
Kids today do not play on playgrounds like they used to.
With a large family and lots of boys they always were coming home bloody from playing football or basketball all year around on the playgrounds.
Now kids sit on their butts and dont play like we did when we were all kids.
My parents would not allow us to sit in the house.
| Its also strange because lots of places parents force their kids to play sports on travel teams and all that kind of stuff. Crazy young ages too, like 7-8 years old. Have noticed more and more kids are sick/burnt out on sports by the time they get to H.S. and don't want to play anymore. |
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Originally Posted by vogeltron
(Post 567775)
Its also strange because lots of places parents force their kids to play sports on travel teams and all that kind of stuff. Crazy young ages too, like 7-8 years old. Have noticed more and more kids are sick/burnt out on sports by the time they get to H.S. and don't want to play anymore.
| Parents living vicariously through the kids :( |
| Sandy D | 07-17-2014 07:51 PM |
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Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 567854)
Parents living vicariously through the kids :(
| I dont see that much here.
And both my kids are active in the sports THEY want to participate in.
If they choose not to play a season of something or sit out, fine with me.
My kids are honor students and kids first, everything else comes second.
If they dont do their homework or dont do well on a test they dont play, end of story.
Education and how they behave should be first and foremost.
Forcing a kid to play is not good for anyone. |
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I agree on that - shouldnt be forcing :) they play any music too Sandy? |
| Sandy D | 07-18-2014 11:12 PM |
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Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 568193)
I agree on that - shouldnt be forcing :) they play any music too Sandy?
| Not mine. Dad takes the beats off their heads if they are on too much or listen to c-rap music. |
| vogeltron | 07-19-2014 04:36 AM |
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Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 568432)
Not mine. Dad takes the beats off their heads if they are on too much or listen to c-rap music.
| My old man was pretty quite about things in general. But he once threw my Super Nintendo in the street for spending too many hours playing a videos games. Thank God looking back what a waste of a life. Also after getting a 2nd place trophy at the end of a Baseball season, he asked me if I felt proud about finishing second or if I though we could have done better. I told him I thought we should have won. He said "son never settle in life" it is a bad habit. Leave that on the bench for someone else or throw it in the trash. |
| GreenBean | 07-19-2014 04:38 AM |
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Originally Posted by vogeltron
(Post 568513)
Also after getting a 2nd place trophy at the end of a Baseball season, he asked me if I felt proud about finishing second or if I though we could have done better. I told him I thought we should have won. He said "son never settle in life" it is a bad habit. Leave that on the bench for someone else or throw it in the trash.
| Sounds like he knew my Da.
Read my signature.
:thumb: |
| vogeltron | 07-19-2014 04:51 AM |
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Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 568515)
Sounds like he knew my Da.
Read my signature.
:thumb:
| I agree nobody remember second place. Losing is losing. I think what my pops was trying to tell me was did I meet my expectations and what I though was possible for myself and my team. If you predicted to finish dead last and make the Championship game that very well could be a successful season. You are still a loser but you can take something from it. For me honestly I was a decent baseball player in my day. The best team I ever played on lost in the game to get to the Championship for the league. We weren't expected to win but came ohh so close. The next year what was left of the team blew the rest of the competition away and we cruised to winning the league.
Most definitely I feel you are right. This may contradict what I just said. But in the long run you can not sell yourself short. You must keep striving to get to the top where you want to be in life. If you are willing to put in the time and can envision yourself doing so then it is possible. |
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| Sandy D | 07-19-2014 06:07 PM |
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Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 568558)
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Poor rsot. Do you know he was on the cover of the PS3 NBA game? |
| GreenBean | 07-19-2014 06:09 PM |
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Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 568645)
Poor rsot. Do you know he was on the cover of the PS3 NBA game?
| Likely not reached Canada yet.
:pound: |
| GreenBean | 07-19-2014 06:17 PM |
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| Sandy D | 07-19-2014 06:19 PM |
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Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 568646)
Likely not reached Canada yet.
:pound:
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Ohhh never though of it that way. |
| Sandy D | 07-19-2014 06:22 PM |
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Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 568652)
| This is it GB!!
Thanks.
Lebron makes what a minute without even stepping onto the court?
Lets see
32 mils in one day on the beats deal.
45 mils on shoes
17 mils on video games
22 mils playing
Over 100 mil a year and I have not even touched all of it. |
| GreenBean | 07-19-2014 06:22 PM |
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Originally Posted by Sandy D
(Post 568653)
Ohhh never though of it that way.
| Yeah, postage and freight costs be high for Canucks.
Maybe the mail never got thro'
:amen: |
| GreenBean | 07-19-2014 06:27 PM |
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