US Election 2016

slapped · #**353** 05-06-2016

How about Paul Ryan, He said that he cannot support Trump,,,YET......I smell a Shakedown coming, let me guess Ryan wants to have a LOT of say in who Trump appoints to his Administration and what issues he needs to Modify like Trumps issue of imposing import taxes on imports,,,God FORBID a President cutting into the profits of these HUGE Multi National corporations.
The Republican Establishment is having a HARD time coming to grips with the fact Trump will be their Nominee and it seems to me that the establishment does not want him to hurt them too badly. They want to ensure that they will be able to pick up right where they left off after a possible Trump Presidency.

yankee · #**354** 05-06-2016

I thought Ryan's response was a terrible negotiating tactic and I think it looks badly upon him but I very much liked Trumps response.

If Ryan truly believes the exact rehearsed message he stated yesterday, then it seems that he is incredibly out of touch with Voters wants.

slapped · #**355** 05-06-2016

That is EXACTLY what these clowns REFUSE to understand, The FACT that the Republican Party is COMPLETLY

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out of touch

with their own electorate, this FACT is precisely the SINGLE BIGGEST reason Trump is going to be the nominee. They still do not understand that the more they use tactics like this the MORE they distance themselves from their electorate.

vogeltron · #**356** 05-06-2016

I just hope Trump picks Jesse Ventura as his VP. Then we can really get the theater started.

slapped · #**357** 05-06-2016

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I just hope Trump picks Jesse Ventura as has VP. Then we can really get the theater started.

I do not see that happening, he has as big an ego as Trump, they may clash,,,I think that Susana Martinez Governor of New Mexico would be his best fit, she is Smart, Popular, She can deliver New Mexico, She can help with BOTH Female voters AND Latinos

GhostOfAmazon · #**358** 05-06-2016

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Hey rsot that's all the reason for Hillary to win, whether the US of A is ready for her or not, be great to see what she could do, Trump is the biggest joke on the planet, no one can take him seriously, he would drag America back years along with his ridiculous views. Having said that the senate rules the country and all the presidents past and present get to realise that when they get into power, they all seem to have face up to the same thing that they cannot change anything that really matters.

Rosie:

What SPECIFICALLY do you like about Hillary, other than her gender?

Do you have specific policies of hers you support or agree with?

Gamefreak · #**359** 05-07-2016

do u guys really think presidents can make an impact on this country?

Trump talks a lot of stuff but he cant change anything meaningful if he wanted to

GhostOfAmazon · #**360** 05-07-2016

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do u guys really think presidents can make an impact on this country?

Trump talks a lot of stuff but he cant change anything meaningful if he wanted to

I don't nessesarrily believe Trump can accomplish much.

But put it this way: I KNOW what a Hillary administration will mean. Is choosing an option that equals "maybe" stupid when the other choice is a depression and or hyper inflation?

I don't believe so. 19 trillion in debt. We can't keep racking up the credit card bills forever, which is exactly what she intends to do (as well as implement a 1996 Australia style gun grab.....seriously, she said that at a rally, look it up).

I KNOW what Hillary will do: Trample my rights, raise my taxes, and rack up more debt in the name of "equality", which, just like the war on drugs, will never be resolved.

Can Trump make a positive difference? Maybe not, but at least there's a good chance he'll take me to dinner before I get screwed.

Also, there's a 10% chance he's the next Reagan. That's what most people are holding out hope for.

glacier922 · #**361** 05-07-2016

Trump now wants to raise money, lol, he wouldn't spend his own money. Trump/Hilary same politician, slightly different selling line, no democracy.

rsot · #**362** 05-07-2016

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Just that yours are valueless. That is my point seeing as that is what I said. You have to have a respectable reputation to have a valued opinion. Understand? Rhetorical.

Again, what you value is your own choice - your implication about "respectable reputation" again, is your own opinion. Anyhow, it's an open thread so whatever goes.

Back to matters at hand, I would find it amusing if did indeed go with Vince McMahon as some photos around the Net are circulating hah....doubt it will happen but would be an increase in the mockery of his campaign.

GhostOfAmazon · #**363** 05-07-2016

Yankee,

While I generally agree with your political views, I don't think anyone hear has posted "valueless" opinions. Honestly, have you looked at the Facebook comments on any Trump related news? If not, I highly recommend it, because that is the very definition of "valueless" conversation. Those idiots can't spell correctly, have no idea of current events, and think that if you support Trump you're a racist misogynistic bigoted evil Lucifer worshiping poor people hating individual who ever walked the earth.

At the very least, rsot has contributed a great deal to the forum, and he's presenting his views in a respectful manner. He might not be completely up to date on current US politics, but as he is Canadian, I think that's forgivable.

If we're going to attack someone, let's at least make sure the target is deserving of it. I think you know someone who does, and they aren't an Exec member.

GreenBean · #**364** 05-07-2016

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Originally Posted by vogeltron

I just hope Trump picks Jesse Ventura as his VP. Then we can really get the theater started.

No way.

Ventura would be put of his depth.

Trump may need to look at a VP who is less put there.

GreenBean · #**365** 05-07-2016

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Originally Posted by rsot

I just don't see USA being in the mindset for a female president - nothing against women but the nation view as a whole...

A Woman President? - Presidential Gender Watch

Ah well.

yankee · #**366** 05-07-2016

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Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon

Yankee,

While I generally agree with your political views, I don't think anyone hear has posted "valueless" opinions. Honestly, have you looked at the Facebook comments on any Trump related news? If not, I highly recommend it, because that is the very definition of "valueless" conversation. Those idiots can't spell correctly, have no idea of current events, and think that if you support Trump you're a racist misogynistic bigoted evil Lucifer worshiping poor people hating individual who ever walked the earth.

At the very least, rsot has contributed a great deal to the forum, and he's presenting his views in a respectful manner. He might not be completely up to date on current US politics, but as he is Canadian, I think that's forgivable.

If we're going to attack someone, let's at least make sure the target is deserving of it. I think you know someone who does, and they aren't an Exec member.

My attack is not on his opinions of this thread, but his contributions in general. We could debate the quality of contributions of his 40,000 posts

You are right though, not the right thread

GhostOfAmazon · #**367** 05-07-2016

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Originally Posted by glacier922

Trump now wants to raise money, lol, he wouldn't spend his own money. Trump/Hilary same politician, slightly different selling line, no democracy.

Not quite...

Compare his campaign funding to Romney and Obama.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/

In total, Trump has only had some 13 million and change spent by outside groups FOR him. Quardurple that has been spent AGAINST him.

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/c...p?id=N00023864

Compare to Hillary:

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/c...p?id=N00000019

Just look at them side by side:

https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/index.php

Now, are you REALLY going to argue that these are "the same"? LOL!

Also, let me ask you: Which person do you think will be more conservative on spending taxpayer money and more likely to pay down federal debt? The guy who's self funding, spending far less, and ALREADY the nominee, despite facing 17 other candidates, or the woman who has spent FAR more money and still can't beat ONE nearly dead socialist?

That's a rhetorical question BTW.

Social issues are irrelevant when the economy is screwed. No one cares what bathroom you're using when they can't get a job. Or rather, I should say, when people have money to take care of themselves and their families, they couldn't care less what you do privately. When they DON'T have money, that's when these social issues become a big deal....because it's that one little thing that just rubs them the wrong way when they are ALREADY having bad day!

Just my 2 cents.

rsot · #**368** 05-07-2016

Trump goes 0-for-3 with Bush family as Jeb vows to sit out – as it happened | US news | The Guardian

GhostOfAmazon · #**369** 05-07-2016

rsot: Here's why:

YouTube

rsot · #**370** 05-07-2016

Thanks GoA - so they will continue to support the party but not the potential leader.

GreenBean · #**371** 05-12-2016

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Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon

I don't nessesarrily believe Trump can accomplish much.

I don't believe so. 19 trillion in debt. We can't keep racking up the credit card bills forever, which is exactly what she intends to do (as well as implement a 1996 Australia style gun grab.....seriously, she said that at a rally look it up.

Can Trump make a positive difference?

Also, there's a 10% chance he's the next Reagan. That's what most people are holding out hope for.

NRA has to really take it to the streets to stop the gun grab then.

It was a debacle in OZ when the gun laws were repealed.

Mind, alternative arrangements were made by many who owned firearms. We were no exception.
To accomodate the princal of the massacre has cost Australian tax payers approx US$22 million dollars... in the name of Justice , NOT.

JamesNorth101 · #**372** 05-12-2016

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Originally Posted by GreenBean

NRA has to really take it to the streets to stop the gun grab then.

It was a debacle in OZ when the gun laws were repealed.

Mind, alternative arrangements were made by many who owned firearms. We were no exception.
To accomodate the princal of the massacre has cost Australian tax payers approx US$22 million dollars... in the name of Justice , NOT.

A lot of Aussies that I have talked to since it happened said it was a very brave move my the Aus government at the time and retrospectively most of them think it was the right move.

I have only spoken to 5/6 mind you about it so they may well not reflect the overall mood of the country

yankee · #**373** 05-12-2016

I have thousands of Australian clients and pretty much all of them feel they lost freedoms and the country moved extreme in the wrong direction.

Keep in mind nearly 100% of my clients are outdoorsman. Very few liberal city slickers. Most are business owners, landowners, cattle ranchers with many also being civil servants such as firefighters.

JamesNorth101 · #**374** 05-12-2016

That is interesting to know thanks Yankee

I always have found the US attitude to gun ownership something so different to the UK (and the rest of the EU) that is hard to relate with how much you feel about them.