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| glacier922 | 03-24-2016 06:31 PM |
Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 757151)
Try not to believe there is such a thng as democracy.
I did two Majors in history.
This word called democracy is what triggered wars for centuries, imo.
:peace:
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You did history as a major too! Me too! |
| dealagreeproceed | 03-24-2016 06:48 PM |
Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 757151)
Try not to believe there is such a thng as democracy.
I did two Majors in history.
This word called democracy is what triggered wars for centuries, imo.
:peace:
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ok well the current system we live under currently is called democracy..."supposedly".... yes true democracy is a pipe dream. IMPOSSIBRU!!! |
| GreenBean | 03-24-2016 06:50 PM |
Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by dealagreeproceed
(Post 757163)
ok well the current system we live under currently is called democracy..."supposedly".... yes true democracy is a pipe dream. IMPOSSIBRU!!!
| Amen to that.
:peace: |
| vogeltron | 03-24-2016 09:35 PM |
Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by glacier922
(Post 757159)
You did history as a major too! Me too!
| Seems to be a trend. Double Majored one was History. |
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Democracy + Religion = Rough waters |
| glacier922 | 03-25-2016 12:06 AM |
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Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 757216)
Democracy + Religion = Rough waters
| Rsot, lol, King of the one liners |
| phaz0rz | 03-25-2016 08:13 AM |
Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by dealagreeproceed
(Post 757163)
ok well the current system we live under currently is called democracy..."supposedly".... yes true democracy is a pipe dream. IMPOSSIBRU!!!
| We live in a Republic kiddo! Why else would there be Senators, Governors, Congressmen, etc..
In a democracy the masses are the only governing body.
True democracy is just as impossible as true capitalism, which is why our country is not truly either one of those. USA is a Democratic Republic, and there are many socialist ideals mixed in with our "capitalist" economic system. |
| EWHendo | 03-25-2016 08:31 AM |
Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by newjerseymax
(Post 757124)
His father gave him 1 million dollars he turned into a Billion Dollar Empire... Not to mention possibly a position as President. I'm pretty sure a good portion of the population would just blow that million within first couple years...
Just look at all those lottery winners... Some of them are poor again and they had many millions. That's just a small sample.
| You cannot believe what he says. He doesn't have a grasp on the concept of truth. He says what the people want to hear, even if he said the opposite five minutes ago.
His inheritance is estimated to be between $40 and $200 million. Perhaps he is mincing words and he inherited $1 million personally, but his business ventures are based on his dad's company, which was given to him at a worth of at least $40 million. |
| phaz0rz | 03-25-2016 11:45 AM |
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Hendo, do some more research on Fred Trump. I read the article I'm pretty sure you're basing your argument off of. But if you look deeper into it, Trump hasn't just maintained his father's company. Fred Trump was a carpenter who went into real estate during the great depression selling cheap homes. Donald Trump worked for his father's company for several years before inheriting it. When he did finally inherit his father's estate, he drastically changed the company's business model. Rather than building cheap homes Donald focused on investment properties. He bought 40 Wall Street for $1 million and over the course of a few years developed it into the Trump Tower which has to be worth at least 300x his original investment. He really is a brilliant investor..
In my opinion he's running his campaign the way he is because it's working. He never expected to get as far as he has. In the beginning it was a joke to him, but his attitude in the beginning has gained him a ton a traction so he's stuck with it. He's become a lot more serious since he became the front runner though.
I don't know.. I'm just rambling on. I respect the guy. He's a loudmouth and sometimes an @sshole on TV but that is not the real Donald Trump. It only makes sense for a business person to run our country. Career politicians are clueless. |
| dealagreeproceed | 03-25-2016 02:44 PM |
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I like trump hes entertaining :lol: and speaks his mind... would enjoy seeing him as president :lol: ... would be an amazing clown show to sit back and watch with a cup of tea... |
| dealagreeproceed | 03-25-2016 02:46 PM |
Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 757216)
Democracy + Religion = Rough waters
| once again democracy is a religion... the idol worshipped in this case is the politician... |
| EWHendo | 03-25-2016 04:33 PM |
Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by dealagreeproceed
(Post 757303)
I like trump hes entertaining :lol: and speaks his mind... would enjoy seeing him as president :lol: ... would be an amazing clown show to sit back and watch with a cup of tea...
| Clown show is right. I still think he would quit after a few months... once he realizes he doesn't wield supreme power to just do whatever he wants, like build a wall or ban everyone of a single religion / heritage. |
| phaz0rz | 03-25-2016 04:39 PM |
Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by EWHendo
(Post 757333)
Clown show is right. I still think he would quit after a few months... once he realizes he doesn't wield supreme power to just do whatever he wants, like build a wall or ban everyone of a single religion / heritage.
| He's not a moron, he knows the presidency is not a dictatorship.
All he's doing is proving the presidential election is a popularity contest. |
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Nothing like having a President who is willing to bail out his voters who beat up those who appose him... |
| jeffweico | 03-25-2016 09:02 PM |
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Has anybody ever watched Idiocracy? If you have not seen that movie, now would be a good time... It is kind of a "futurementary" A documentary about America's future. We are getting closer and closer to that every day. |
Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 757283)
I don't know.. I'm just rambling on. I respect the guy. He's a loudmouth and sometimes an @sshole on TV but that is not the real Donald Trump. It only makes sense for a business person to run our country. Career politicians are clueless.
| He has many facets to his character - wonder what the ethnic vote (including latino) will be.... |
| vogeltron | 03-26-2016 03:51 AM |
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| vogeltron | 03-26-2016 03:55 AM |
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Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 757373)
He has many facets to his character - wonder what the ethnic vote (including latino) will be....
| It is interesting because in head to head polls I have seen vs Hillary Clinton, Trump is supposedly getting 25% of the African American vote. Which is crazy because Republican's never get anything over like 8%. But with his immigration policy I see why African American's vote for him. They lose the most jobs due to illegal immigration.
Always make me laugh because Canada has the you can be an idiot policy! People who have dumb stuff like a DUI can't even
visit Canada. Haha. |
| GreenBean | 03-26-2016 06:22 AM |
Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by jeffweico
(Post 757363)
Has anybody ever watched Idiocracy? If you have not seen that movie, now would be a good time... It is kind of a "futurementary" A documentary about America's future. We are getting closer and closer to that every day.
| Yet, yet, yet, the hoi polloi appears on intend on racing into the path of horror playing out in the present.
G-d Save America indeed.
=}- |
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Originally Posted by vogeltron
(Post 757407)
It is interesting because in head to head polls I have seen vs Hillary Clinton, Trump is supposedly getting 25% of the African American vote. Which is crazy because Republican's never get anything over like 8%. But with his immigration policy I see why African American's vote for him. They lose the most jobs due to illegal immigration.
Always make me laugh because Canada has the you can be an idiot policy! People who have dumb stuff like a DUI can't even
visit Canada. Haha.
| about Canada...Customs is much less rigourous than the US Customs...as long as the person doesn't come reeking of liquor/drug use and the person isn't acting a-fool, many times that person will get in without issue...
Anyhow :focus: Trump encourages ppl to act up during the rallying is exciting the masses... |
| phaz0rz | 03-26-2016 08:39 AM |
Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 757373)
He has many facets to his character - wonder what the ethnic vote (including latino) will be....
| 98% democratic or independent, lol.
Trump's shot himself in the foot with minorities... |
| vogeltron | 03-26-2016 03:14 PM |
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Some news yesterday that Gary Johnson the Libertarian candidate is poling at 10% in a theoretical race with Clinton vs Trump. Would be cool to see a third party get on the debate stage. Libertarians are the only other party that will be on the ballot in all 50 states. |
| applepbc | 03-26-2016 06:25 PM |
Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by jeffweico
(Post 757363)
Has anybody ever watched Idiocracy? If you have not seen that movie, now would be a good time... It is kind of a "futurementary" A documentary about America's future. We are getting closer and closer to that every day.
| only trump has a very high IQ |
| EWHendo | 03-26-2016 07:55 PM |
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Originally Posted by applepbc
(Post 757555)
only trump has a very high IQ
| Source please? |
Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by applepbc
(Post 757555)
only trump has a very high IQ
| High Quantity of "Idiotic Quotes" absolutely agree. |
| vogeltron | 03-26-2016 09:00 PM |
Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by applepbc
(Post 757555)
only trump has a very high IQ
| Would be nice to see his GMAT score for getting into Warton. But he won't release and I don't blame him. Obama wouldn't even release his grades so why so anyone else. And that was the guy who promised to have the most transparent US Government ever. What a clown!!!! http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e5...ama%20Doll.jpg |
| glacier922 | 03-26-2016 09:11 PM |
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Obama is a made up person! Where was his birth certificate after so many years? Quote:
Originally Posted by vogeltron
(Post 757578)
Would be nice to see his GMAT score for getting into Warton. But he won't release and I don't blame him. Obama wouldn't even release his grades so why so anyone else. And that was the guy who promised to have the most transparent US Government ever. What a clown!!!! http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e5...ama%20Doll.jpg
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| RosieTosie | 03-27-2016 04:37 AM |
Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 755107)
Trump being elected president would not be disastrous in any way. He has a firm grasp on international politics and business unlike any other politician. The idea he would be disastrous has been perpetuated by the media and established politicians because they know Trump will not be a puppet once elected, like any other candidate would be. Those currently in office are doing ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING to keep him from being elected because they feel threatened by him. But the reality is he's a brilliant businessman, while all other candidates are nothing but career talking-heads.
I live in the South and I can assure you minority turnout against Trump will be far less than minority turnout when Obama was elected. Hundreds of thousands of minority voters cast their one and only vote for Obama in 2008, and have not voted since and will likely never vote again.
I do agree with you about the two-party system being flawed, Hendo. Which is part of the reason I so adamantly support Trump. The Republican establishment BEGGED him to run as a Republican a year ago. But the same "establishment" now despises Trump because he can't be controlled by the party.
Denying Trump's momentum would be denying common sense. At this point it's apparent it will be Trump vs. Clinton. Hillary Clinton IS A LIAR. As others have said, she will say/do anything to gain support. It's shameful that anyone would rather elect a pathological liar over a successful billionaire.
Hendo - I appreciate the ongoing dialogue. Most on the forum have been ignoring this discussion, but I love talking politics :)
| And you think Trump, who yesterday said he could go out on the street pull out a gun and shoot someone and no one would bat an eyelid about it, is a viable option over Hilary for President!! The guy is out to lunch permanently, he thinks building a wall to keep out Muslims is the way forward. Americans need to build a wall alright, around Trump Towers to keep him in and as far away from the Presidency as it's possible to get. America is turning into a laughing stock even considering him, he rants and raves and has been encouraging aggression in his rally supporters then steps back not knowing what to do when they start fighting! |
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Hilarious MM78 - the second pic is right on |
| vogeltron | 03-27-2016 05:15 AM |
Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by RosieTosie
(Post 757619)
And you think Trump, who yesterday said he could go out on the street pull out a gun and shoot someone and no one would bat an eyelid about it, is a viable option over Hilary for President!! The guy is out to lunch permanently, he thinks building a wall to keep out Muslims is the way forward. Americans need to build a wall alright, around Trump Towers to keep him in and as far away from the Presidency as it's possible to get. America is turning into a laughing stock even considering him, he rants and raves and has been encouraging aggression in his rally supporters then steps back not knowing what to do when they start fighting!
| As an Egyptian Arabic speaker who has met and dealt with many individuals from this region closing taking a second look with regards to who is allowed in the country is absolutely necessary. There are many great people from this region who are great friends and come from great families. However, there are lots of problems are there are many who hate America and the West. Anyone who simply looks at the migrants which are mostly from North Africa, Iraq and Afghanistan entering the EU they are raping women in Scandinavia and Germany. It is a crises.
Places like Canada if you have a DUI and are a normal person you can't even visit. They have a no idiots policy which I highly agree with. Go to South London and tell me how accepting these people are? I speak Egyptian Arabic which is were the film industry comes from as well as the Music for those who do not consider it Haram. No way would I allow these people into my country anywhere on the planet without a throughout vetting process.
Try going to Suadi Arabia. They have a near Zero immigration policy. Many from places like India work their but are not allowed to bring their family. Europeans only with special Clarence are. |
| phaz0rz | 03-27-2016 08:11 AM |
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Originally Posted by RosieTosie
(Post 757619)
And you think Trump, who yesterday said he could go out on the street pull out a gun and shoot someone and no one would bat an eyelid about it, is a viable option over Hilary for President!! The guy is out to lunch permanently, he thinks building a wall to keep out Muslims is the way forward. Americans need to build a wall alright, around Trump Towers to keep him in and as far away from the Presidency as it's possible to get. America is turning into a laughing stock even considering him, he rants and raves and has been encouraging aggression in his rally supporters then steps back not knowing what to do when they start fighting!
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Why yes, yes I actually do consider him a better candidate!
There's no sense in arguing my side when I'm competing with political ideology from all over the globe.
Most of the outrageous things (building a wall, banning all muslims) he's said he's going to do are impossible, and he knows it. He's made great use of the press's sensationalism, and has managed to amass a following. At the end of the day, he's still the Republican front-runner no matter how stupid everyone thinks he is! |
| RosieTosie | 03-27-2016 09:06 AM |
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But that's the whole point he is only ever going to be half of the story until the election,
whoever wins the Democrat vote will obviously be the other half. Hilary has no real competition so far apart from him, as the first potential female president it is going to be very interesting to see how far she gets.
Vogeltron it is to late to start trying to limit who comes over to the west, the chaos that would cause would be off the planet. |
| dealagreeproceed | 03-27-2016 06:57 PM |
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I say let trump be prez!!! enough of double talk from these politicians. PRIME EXAMPLE is the current prez. the current prez pretends to like muslims but at the same time has drone striked muslim lands more than bush could have EVER dreamed. but because the current prez is of color and has a foreign name he can get away with it MUCH easier. and many of the muslims in usa still like the current prez even tho he is murdering their people on a daily basis! freaken uncle toms :doh:
I atleast somewhat respect trump because he doesn't pretend to like anyone he doesn't. he tells you the truth to your face whether you agree OR not.
also the only way to stop mass migration from muslim lands to the west is to force our governments to stop bombing their lands and interfering in their affairs. let them fight each other who cares... just stay out of their business... |
| dealagreeproceed | 03-27-2016 07:17 PM |
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also if americans had half a brain they would have voted in ron paul... OR Bernie sanders this time... why they don't I have no idea... I mean come on... |
| GreenBean | 03-27-2016 07:33 PM |
Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by dealagreeproceed
(Post 757787)
also the only way to stop mass migration from muslim lands to the west is to force our governments to stop bombing their lands and interfering in their affairs. let them fight each other who cares... just stay out of their business...
| Why should the West be involved in the rescue/rehousing of refugees when there are countries belonging to the same FAITH, do not allow entry over their borders? |
| dealagreeproceed | 03-27-2016 11:08 PM |
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Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 757799)
Why should the West be involved in the rescue/rehousing of refugees when there are countries belonging to the same FAITH, do not allow entry over their borders?
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GB seems you need to reread what I wrote. I don't believe the west should house these refugees. I clearly said the western governments should stop bombing and interfering in these peoples affairs so they will stop being forced to stop flee to western countries. yes indeed there are countries of the same faith who are not accepting these people in. but that's my point exactly. who put these dictator scums in power in the middle east to begin with. usa,uk,france etc.....
now I can only look what I see here in the u.s. and in the u.s. all the muslims I know are doctors lawyers engineers business owners etc... they all came from faraway lands and contribute much more than alot of the people actually born here. |
| GreenBean | 03-28-2016 03:55 AM |
Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 757799)
Why should the West be involved in the rescue/rehousing of refugees when there are countries belonging to the same FAITH, do not allow entry over their borders?
| Let us try again, dealagreeproceed.
Why do countries of the same faith not allow the refugees over their borders?
This is germaine to the issue.
Who takes responsibilty?
:peace: |
| RosieTosie | 03-28-2016 05:56 AM |
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What about the Palmyra situation recently, America didn't want to do anything so the Russians of all people zoomed in and spent a day or two ousting ISIS. Result: all singing all dancing joy from America?, not a word, embarrassment more like that they didn't get their act together and get in their first. That is not to say the Russians don't have their own agenda going on with one of their number 1 supporters Assad of course. |
| dealagreeproceed | 03-28-2016 03:35 PM |
Re: US Election 2016
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Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 757858)
Let us try again, dealagreeproceed.
Why do countries of the same faith not allow the refugees over their borders?
This is germaine to the issue.
Who takes responsibilty?
:peace:
| well among a number of reasons is that they are dictator scums who do not care about their own people within their own borders, so ofcourse they wont care about their neighbors either even if of the same faith. unfortunately some elements in the west may be more caring even tho they are of different faith than the refugees...
who takes responsibility? wellllllllllll... if we look at the foundation of this issue. alot of these refugees are Syrian. so in the case of Syria who put the assad family in power even tho him and his father were/are ruthless murderers. answer the west :doh: also who is currently drone striking the hell out of Syria at the moment... answer the west :doh:
so its not all black n white... |
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