US Election 2016

JamesNorth101 · #**397** 05-15-2016

I have to say I think its been a great thread. I am really glad its been allowed and also not gotten too out of hand (thank you to all the posters for that!)

Upto 4 stars now

**aspkin** · #**398** 05-15-2016

I'll vote it up..

Politics talk. I like it. I figured members here would be very political out spoken.. I was right.

yankee · #**399** 05-15-2016

I hated the idea but ended up liking it

I am especially intrigued at how other countries view and perceive the USA.

GreenBean · #**400** 05-15-2016

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Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

I have to say I think its been a great thread. I am really glad its been allowed and also not gotten too out of hand (thank you to all the posters for that!)

Upto 4 stars now

It still has had damaging comments made towards users.

Bear in mind a written word has more power than face to face talk.

JamesNorth101 · #**401** 05-15-2016

For the most part it's been pretty give and take like any good political debate from what I have read. At least that is how it has come across to me

applepbc · #**402** 05-15-2016

interesting

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/06/wo...n-us.html?_r=0

MM78 · #**403** 05-16-2016

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interesting

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/06/wo...n-us.html?_r=0

It is interesting, tell me what you found most interesting......

applepbc · #**404** 05-16-2016

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It is interesting, tell me what you found most interesting......

the entire bit, really. It suggests the mexican government does not want to take care of its own problem. By dropping these pamphlets in poorer neighborhoods, they avoid responsibility for their own sub-par citizens.

If this article were true, would that technically make trump right, saying Mexico DOESNT send their best to the USA? Since the pamphlets were not designed to be distributed to their well-educated, logical reasoning can conclude his seemingly bigoted statements were uncannily true.

It also raises a question... are bigoted statements bigoted if they are true?

not that this is a major issue at all, but the disruption of this one tiny piece of information blown completely out of proportion has pushed trump over the edge with swing voters. The media has painted a detailed picture of what it wants its citizens to think.

so IF trump would have never said anything about mexicans or muslims... would his appearance be different? Absolutely. And every political topic could then be accurately and fairly discussed without that emotional BS bias.

GreenBean · #**405** 05-16-2016

Nature of Politics has always been it is full of emotional BS and bias.

MM78 · #**406** 05-16-2016

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If this article were true, would that technically make trump right, saying Mexico DOESNT send their best to the USA?

Well, let me ask you this....why would a rich, well off, middle-class Mexican want to come to the US? And just so you are aware, I know and have family members in Mexico who are well-off, middle class and none of them have ever wanted to live in the US. I would say that the majority of "Latinos" that have crossed the border illegally have done so because they don't have the money to file paperwork, hell most don't even know how to write.

Now, have they broken the law, yes they have...can't deny it, but when they don't have 2 pesos to rub together.....people will risk their lives for a better life, and I would assume that many who came through Ellis Island probably were in similar situations...not all but maybe some.

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Since the pamphlets were not designed to be distributed to their well-educated, logical reasoning can conclude his seemingly bigoted statements were uncannily true.

Of those who came through Ellis Island, how many can we say were "well educated" or "The best"? tough to really answer.

Welcome to Immigration

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so IF trump would have never said anything about mexicans or muslims... would his appearance be different? Absolutely. And every political topic could then be accurately and fairly discussed without that emotional BS bias.

It's very difficult to have such discussions without including emotions.....very tough.

rsot · #**407** 05-16-2016

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so IF trump would have never said anything about mexicans or muslims... would his appearance be different? Absolutely. And every political topic could then be accurately and fairly discussed without that emotional BS bias.

Accurately? Fairly? Hah wow doubtful either way.

GhostOfAmazon · #**408** 05-16-2016

Anyone else having trouble viewing the last/most recent page of the thread?

yankee · #**409** 05-16-2016

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Anyone else having trouble viewing the last/most recent page of the thread?

This is the last page. I noticed last week it would show an extra page number but actually was not one.

GhostOfAmazon · #**410** 05-16-2016

Ahh, ok. Good to know.

MM78 · #**411** 05-17-2016

Kinda weird when it does that.....

rsot · #**412** 05-20-2016

Kind of sparks forward the thread

GhostOfAmazon · #**413** 05-20-2016

I just hope everyone who plans on voting for Hillary in November is fully aware that she stole the nomination from Bernie Sanders and that she plans on abolishing the 2nd amendment.

I have considerable proof for both of the above statements for anyone that wants confirmation.

JamesNorth101 · #**414** 05-20-2016

Is she able legally to abolish the 2nd amendment? That isn't in the power for the president is it?

yankee · #**415** 05-20-2016

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Is she able legally to abolish the 2nd amendment? That isn't in the power for the president is it?

We have states such as MA that pretty much already have and yes, one appointed judge will abolish the second amendment and we have several seats coming up.

JamesNorth101 · #**416** 05-20-2016

When you say in certain states it's already abolished, are there no guns sold there? Or are they just a bit harder to get hold of than in other states?

Being abolished to me would read as guns cannot be sold at all. That was something I did not know that was possible in the US. Being harder to get hold of yes due to tight control on who they get sold to yes, being impossible to get hold of no.

yankee · #**417** 05-20-2016

In MA, we have a permit to buy anything including powder. The permit requires a fee of $400 biannual. You can never of had any record in your entire life. Even a simple 911 call dispute with an argument with your girlfriend or a small barroom brawl. An OUI(Operating under the influence) in your lifetime.

You have to take a 7 day hunter education course(even if you do not desire to hunt) and a handgun course. A few hundred more dollars.

You then have to apply to the chief of police in your town of residence. You need to obtain fingerprints, pictures, etc...just like passport. Many towns/cities require a 2000 word essay for why you feel you deserve to own a gun.

It is then several weeks up to one year to get a response. Oftentimes the response is they want more info or to reapply because to much time has gone by. Many cities such as Newton and Norton MA have a 100% deny rate including all the local police department.

From that point you have two options. You can make a $5000 donation to the Governor(not sure if the new one is the same) or pettion to the state court in Boston for a hearing and hire an attorney.

Now, all have to go to the point of begging your chief of police but many many people have to go to Boston. Of course most just give up the rights or move out of state.

48 states to buy a simple shotgun or rifle you supply a government issued ID and a federal background check and off you go. For ammo you supply a Photo ID.

GreenBean · #**418** 05-20-2016

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