Access a limited account without phone

[ixxx]

Dear All, here's the situation:
1. UK account permanently limited and frozen for 180 days with a lot of money inside;
2. recently I receive an email telling me the money is eligible for withdrawal;
3. I discover I'm unable to access the account as SMS verification is required, but the number (UK SIM) is no longer in use (deactivated forever by GiffGaff)
4. some Paypal expert tells me it is useless to call customer service to change the number, as Paypal reps will tell you they will allow.
I'd like to read your advice on this.
Thanks,
ixxx

[SaiJin]

You're not in a good spot. I hope you still have a bank account attached to it?

At this point, you need to call customer service and keep calling until you get one that can help you with the withdrawal

[rsot]

Call and push like SaiJin stated - how much is stuck in there?

[ixxx]

Update: I've managed to have the number changed and accessed the account. And of course emptied the balance withdrawing to attached old bank account. Seemed a success but now the situation is as follows:
1. funds are not in the bank;
2. the SMS verification prompt still shows the old number, even though I deleted it and the main and only number in the account is the new one;
So we're back to the beginning, apparently...

[BigLad]

This 'PayPal expert' is talking rubbish. Yeah you just need to calm and confirm some info and they will change it

[ixxx]

Update: I paid somebody to call Paypal customer service and shed light on this. He sent me the recorded conversation. What emerged is weird even for PP low standards:
1. funds were available after 180 days. When I transferred them to the attached bank account, they disappeared;
2. PP rep said the account as a result of that action is now limited for ANOTHER 180 DAYS, so it has been permanently limited twice!
3. balance is zero, funds have vanished, but the guys said in 180 days I can withdraw. But there is nothing to withdraw.
It looks like PP stole the money openly and shamelessly.
Now I suppose calling customer service again is useless. Is there a sort of higher authority to report this to? This is UK Paypal not US.
Cheers,
ixxx

[Hank]

If they suspect you of breaching there T&C's and abusing their services then they will keep your money.

It seems they are entitled to do this. They know that many do indeed abuse their services and won't pursue it through the legal channels.

Did you abuse their services?

[rsot]

Originally Posted by Hank

If they suspect you of breaching there T&C's and abusing their services then they will keep your money.

It seems they are entitled to do this. They know that many do indeed abuse their services and won't pursue it through the legal channels.

Did you abuse their services?

ixxx, this is important ^^

[ixxx]

Of course I abused their services, that is why the account was permanently limited the first time

[Hank]

Originally Posted by ixxx

Of course I abused their services, that is why the account was permanently limited the first time

Then your money is gone, it's been discussed at length on this forum.

[SaiJin]

Originally Posted by ixxx

Of course I abused their services, that is why the account was permanently limited the first time

-_-

C'mon man....

Don't do it again.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by ixxx

Of course I abused their services, that is why the account was permanently limited the first time

Game over - if you want a deeper discussion, you will have to explain what you did with details

[agent006140]

WAIT A week and see if your balance is restored.
Paypal software cannot anticipate all these convoluted moves you guys make,not only you vlolated its policy,you also cant get your act together and forget this ,misplace that.
contact them again if the account is still zero

[SaiJin]

Originally Posted by rsot

Game over - if you want a deeper discussion, you will have to explain what you did with details

I second this

[murdered_by_ebay]

people who abuse paypal usually do not hold significant balances there , paypal are not stupid , they hunt such accounts so they can freeze funds and keep them indefinitely as this money becomes their profit

in general a balance higher than $300-$500 should never be kept on paypal balance at any specific time if you want anything close to safety

[SaiJin]

shouldn't be abusing any one for that matter

[murdered_by_ebay]

from paypal's perspective anything that is not allowed is abuse , for example any stealth account

[ixxx]

Paypal can easily find many reasons to freeze the account claiming the owner abused the terms of use. But can they prove it? Also the accusation is never clear. I know very well that Paypal can and will pocket the money because of this: the point of my last question was not to let it go and accept it, but to fight back somehow. Legally. Or through other legal means. I recall a post somewhere, maybe on Reddit, that mentioned an email address and a department inside Paypal, a sort of higher authority, where to submit cases like this, threatening legal action. Not bbb.org, something internal. Anybody ever heard about it?

[SaiJin]

Originally Posted by ixxx

Paypal can easily find many reasons to freeze the account claiming the owner abused the terms of use. But can they prove it? Also the accusation is never clear. I know very well that Paypal can and will pocket the money because of this: the point of my last question was not to let it go and accept it, but to fight back somehow. Legally. Or through other legal means. I recall a post somewhere, maybe on Reddit, that mentioned an email address and a department inside Paypal, a sort of higher authority, where to submit cases like this, threatening legal action. Not bbb.org, something internal. Anybody ever heard about it?

I heard of it yes. I think you can find that email in some of the threads in the forum, you just have to search for it.

[degsey69]

Have you tried uk complaints portal link below

https://www.paypal.com/uk/cshelp/complaints

[murdered_by_ebay]

paypal lost many court cases , in western countries they are known for doing out of court settlements and under condition of non disclosure

[rsot]

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay

paypal lost many court cases , in western countries they are known for doing out of court settlements and under condition of non disclosure

typical of big platforms