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you just gotta think out of the box, and then you can achieve what you want. I find ebay and paypal is like playing chess, you need to understand your moves and have a clear mind!

I use about 10 accounts per month to withdraw. And about 4-5 of them cover the 35k. So I take out about $7000-$8000 per month per account. The other 5 accounts I withdraw small amounts totaling like $300-$500 in the entire month.

i presume you use different details on each to avoid linking?

Thanks
Noel

Of course ;)

good Lord --what are you selling?

A bit of everything, really. Electronics mainly right now and some fashion.

Morale of story. Move to japan if you want to use paypal without getting limited.

Is it just Japan?

Why not setup a network with the penguins in Antarctica?

i sold 3 items with my new account. it sold before i got to verify the deposit, therefore i have 4 steps to remove limitations. should i just refund the buyers money or will the limitations still be there?

I just opened Merchant Account with National Merchant Bankcard..so we'll see. Anyone used them before?
I'll have to take it slow with Ebay, that's all.... I will start opening reserve accounts, but they will not be of much use for another few months. Patience is the name of the game with Ebay. It's just a game we play. I live in the free country and they will not tell me how much I can sell and when! This Forums and Modee's advise have been priceless!!!!!!

yes, if u wanna make big, u gotta think big. Sell expensive items!!

PayPAl CROOKED...permanently limited my account and asking for SS #
 

My account has been limited for a week no(after doign 20K in Sales in aorund 30 days).eBay accoutn suspended and paypal account limited and they request Supplier Invoices,SS#, among othe rnformation.

One thing weird is that 3 of my transactions were placed on hold not by buyers but by "Inquiry by PayPal" and in the status it said it had ben reviewed by a PayPal Agent...Everytime I called and spoke to PayPal they could not give me a reaosn why these transaction were placed on hold..So today i called and some low-level guy who knew absoulty nothing tried to smart off to me, so i speak to his supervisor and ask why the fund were placed on hold, she placed me on hold for 2 mintues and returned to tell me the funds were realsed(still no reason as to why)

Isnt it illigal for them to hold money that long with no reason?Also they are requesting me to upgrade my accoutn to Buisness account(higher fees?) and they also two days ago asked for a Photo ID out of nowhere.Has anyoneever had there aaccoiunt limtied twice?I would liek to get back to my normal sale voume without worrying about getting my fund placed on hold

Paypal Verication Issues
 

How do I confirm location with an account that has all ⊗⊗⊗⊗ infomation? and when I put in my SS# it keeps asking me to put it in, so how do I fix that problem?


and is there a place where I can get unlimited amounts of bank accounts? and that won't hurt my credit in the long run

Paypal Limitation
 

I just started selling on Ebay, had to link Ebay and PP as newbie. I use Google Checkout for customers. One customer accidentally sent payment to PP account, I refunded. Limitation message and Ebay limited. Anyone know if I can still use the Ebay Account and new PP or both are DOA? If both are DOA and I resetup how do I prevent users from checking out and spawning limitation?

Paypal account limited. Asking for Social Security #
 

I made this post in paypal general accidentally. MODS PLEASE DELETE THAT ONE

This has probably been discussed many times, but i cant find a definite answer anywhere

Okay so my paypal and ebay account were recently limited.

Paypal is asking for my social and some other things to lift the limitation

Is there a way to lift the limitation WITHOUT entering my SS#

I used that SS# on an old paypal account that was suspended and thats why I don't want to enter it.

PLEASE HELP. THANKS IN ADVANCE GUYS

What about people in the US that do not have a SS#? Can they not get a PayPal account? Or is that a way to get around using a SS#?

I don't know if this will work or not and would like any help on this subject. I am a banned ebay member and have read many helpful topics/stories relating to my troubles. I went and opened up a new ebay/paypal account with all the new bank, cc, address info. I get the usual limitation on my paypal account which I gave all but my ss# so like I figured paypal said we are holding your money for 180 days and good bye. Can this work with me opening up a new paypal account under a real person (my friend) with all legit bank,cc, and ss# info to my existing ebay account which is good and working. I know paypal will link me to my friend but really the only thing I did was not give them my ss# and my ebay account is fine. I really never did anything wrong. I even asked paypal why my account was limited which they said I was new and selling too many items (high risk). Has anyone ever done this? Will it work? I talked to ebay and they said it would be ok and then I talked to paypal and they said they could'nt answer any of my questions. Ebay even told me that there was no need for my ss# but paypal insists on it. I figure I could change all the info on ebay to my friends name and then just add his paypal account. I don't want to start over again but if this has no chance I guess I have to. Thank you for any info.

Even when you provide a SSN they will still freeze you every now and then

Seriously. lol. Have you heard that PP accounts in Japan do not have limitations? Japan is a very interesting place to be, and if there were a good business reason for it, I'd move!

One way to take money out (you'll have to work out the fees) is to "purchase" an item from another account that way you're not withdrawing the money you're "buying" something. You pay their fee but it may be worth not having to withdraw money. Then you can withdraw it from the good paypal account.

Send money "purchase"/non ebay item, etc.

Is Business account, DBA name on my Paypal and Ebay accounts better IE a LLC will they want to know whom the owners are?.

They will want some info on the company contact (customer service or manager). The company owners would be the stockholders. Since PP won't know who the stockholders are, they can't really demand SS #'s. If they ask, just provide EIN and remind them that there is no single owner and thus no appropriate SS # to give. I haven't had that issue come up in quite a while. Lately, they ask for the EIN only. Ignore the automated emails. Those are boilerplate from back in the 90's. Most still say SS#, but the hand-crafted emails take into account that you are a business and not a sole proprietor, if you add 'Inc or LLC' to the business name.

Do not try to ⊗⊗⊗⊗ like you are Inc or LLC, though. They can easily check that. If you get caught out in a lie, they really get peeved. Just spend the few bucks and make it all legit.

Joer, Also keep in mind that having the LLC & EIN might only delay the providing of the SSN.

Even if they mistakenly ask for SSN, you tell them NO. A corporation is its own entity. It is sovereign to itself. If PP asked you for my SSN, it's inappropriate and you'd be wrong to provide it since it isn't your SSN. Well, your SSN does not belong to the LLC (Limited Liability Corporation). The LLC has it's own SSN (called an EIN) that belongs to it. The only appropriate number for the LLC *IS* the EIN. My SSN does not belong to any of my LLCs. My SSN only applies to me personally. Attaching or associating my SSN to any of those is invalid. Except when submitting the initial documents to form the LLC. Once formed, my SSN has nothing to do with any of it anymore.

Forming a corporation is similar to having a baby. While the baby is developing, it's part of the parent (it isn't born yet). When a corporation is formed, it is being born. Once a child is born, it gets its own SSN. A corporation *IS* born once it is formed. Legally, that is the definition of corporation. It becomes a thing, not an idea. It is no longer virtual. It is no longer part of a parent. It then has it's own number. My son can't use my SSN. He has to use his own. My LLCs can't use my SSN. They have to use their own.

Taken from Dictionary.com -

cor⋅po⋅ra⋅tion
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Use corporation in a Sentence
–noun
1. an association of individuals, created by law or under authority of law, having a continuous existence independent of the existences of its members, and powers and liabilities distinct from those of its members.

and

cor·po·ra·tion (kôr'pə-rā'shən)
n.

1. A body that is granted a charter recognizing it as a separate legal entity having its own rights, privileges, and liabilities distinct from those of its members.

and

corporation

A business organization owned by a group of stockholders, each of whom enjoys limited liability (that is, each can be held responsible for losses only up to the limit of his or her investment). A corporation has the ability to raise capital by selling stock to the public.

Then there's the best part :=-=:

Corporation

A legal entity that is separate and distinct from its owners. Corporations enjoy most of the rights and responsibilities that an individual possesses that is, a corporation has the right to enter into contracts, loan and borrow money, sue and be sued, hire employees, own assets and pay taxes.

The most important aspect of a corporation is limited liability. That is, shareholders have the right to participate in the profits, through dividends and/or the appreciation of stock, but are not held personally liable for the company's debts.

I've been reading through this...

Right now i have a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ paypal, been limited but I submitted docs to get it legit.

I've set up my ebay accounts with merchant stuff, but the users always like to opt for paypal...which makes me think I'm wasting my $$ with the merchant stuff, so I'm going to cancel it.

I have relative's info, but if I do the DBA route that works too?

jimmy, if the merchant account is already made, don't cancel it. Keep it going. Time may come when you need it.

You get EIN from the treasury. Can apply online. Free. However, you do have to BECOME a business within a reasonable time frame. There's more to this thread in the subscriber section that pretty much covers it.

You get EIN from Treasury. Online is fine. Cost is free. Will need to BECOME a business within a reasonable time, but can get EIN first. More to this thread in Subscriber Area.

It works very well. Just don't cut a corner or skip a step. File it, get the EIN, put bank in business name, maybe get a phone in business name, and so-forth.

All the expenses are tax deductible (if need arise).

You can get the EIN before you actually file the business papers. You just have to do the rest within a reasonable time-frame. To get EIN, go to the Treasury web site and apply. There is another parallel thread on this subject in the Subscriber Area, which you will likely find very useful.

Ah ok,
I looked around for registering a DBA, it seemed to be $100. That's how you get an employment identification number, correct?

vicvelcro,
Can you link me to the discussion? I'd def like to get a new paypal under a business name...and I assume a PO box too? Thats a sure-fire way to always be able to un-limit my account (of course, providing legit documents, etc.)?

GreenBean,
I left my authorize.net/MerchantPLUS account active. I actually got my subscription down to $10 a month for merchantplus..it kind of adds up though..$20 for cartmanager, $10 this, $10 that..hate to see it go to waste with everyone option for paypal!

Here's the thread for you:http://www.aspkin.com/forums/subscri...sensitive.html

Good to hear about that merchant account and to see that you are doing a fine job to beat paypal. :thumb:

yes buying must add legitimacy to the account for sure, shows you are at that address (well we know you may not be but..) I buy from stealth accounts, forum says dont, as can lead to dramas, but hardly had any..

Abesolutely not,as long as you start to receive money with it,they would limit you whatever you do.The account should will go stably after you unlimit your account once or twice.

Help: I got hit with paypal limitation...no problem there been there done that...this time they hit me with the kitchen sink....proof of id ~ Proof of S.S. ~proof of invoices ~ proof of delivery ~ proof of company existence ~ requested that I upgrade to a company account ~ and requested that I link new bank account ~ was using account now for withdrawals.... I provided them with all the information they requested and limitation was lifted.... I've been limited in the past and they've asked for this level of information over the course of multiple limitations...is it safe to say (and I use the word safe lightly when it comes to paypal) that this new paypal account is good to go...what other information could they possible ask me to provide that I haven't during this insane limitation?

I thought that when your account was limited, you could only RECEIVE or REFUND the money...

can I really use that limited account to send my money via "purchase"?

so basically if you have 2 paypal accounts..just keep withdrawing under $500 each time and youll be good?

More accurate to say:

Run two accounts and do not exceed any payment or withdrawal bigger than $50 each time. Do not do more than $500 total per month. If you observe those guidelines, there's a 1/3 chance you will be under the radar each month. So, on average, you will get by for 90 days and then they slam you with the works. Some people get slammed before they ever make a sale. Some get by for over a year. Most get it pretty soon, regardless.

There is NO CERTAINTY of any kind in any way with PP. Nobody has a firm answer to anything because PP does not do the same thing the same way twice in a row. Accept that now and you will be less stressed with the weird crap they do. And you'll be less likely to be angry at somebody for "lying" to you when PP does something different that what somebody else said they would do.

If you want to play the game, expect to get 'jumped' and brutalized by ebay and PP. Each day you duck under the radar is a gift from the deities of WWW dot COM and nothing more.

would it be safer to just withdraw about $200 a week or withdraw $50 a day..
i mean from everyone experience is it safer to withdraw a medium sized amound about twice a week or a small sized amount everyday?