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Every stealth paypal getting limited on second payment
 

Hello,
I am trying with many it paypal, every clean and new, but selling high risk items, how i can start? Because i dont have cheap items, i deal with iphone, samsung, tvs and all high priced items,

500+ euro item,as soon i sell second item on paypal through ebay it get limited and even after providing every document it ends to ban..

Any help?

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You need to build up the account with lower value items. No way to just skip to high priced items without first starting with the lower priced items

I dont have low value items, so i dont know what i can sell...

What if i sell 0,01 cents ebook or wallpapers? Will that help?

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Hi

If you’re just starting out with zero reputation, don’t go jumping in there trying to sell that €500+ items. No-one including eBay is going to trust you – yet...

Start small and selling cheap items that people are more likely to take a gamble on, then gather as much feedback and ratings as you can.

You may try Alibaba.com and search cheap product for dropshipping. There are many ways to start make money and gather feedback on ebay….you just have to think outside the box. Good luck.

Adam

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Pick up some cheap items from your. Local charity shop, then you'll have some low risk items to sell.

Thanks for replies, what and how much should i sell before taking my own business on?

Like 50 euro each item for 10/20 selling in a month that will fine? Or i have to wait more?
Or selling 1/2 euro 50/60 selling

Please explain... Thanks again

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I would recommend around 10euro items, one at a time. When positive feedback comes in on ebay, list more.
Then slowly increase value of items + quantity of items relative to how much positive feedback is pouring in.

In my opinion, listing a 1euro item x 100 is as bad as listing a 100 euro item right off the bat.

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Same this happen to me
second sale probably limit the account of mine
i need the permenant solution
paypal going strict day by day . why is like that

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@Pavesi and ebaytroll ... Are you guys entering the Tracking number When you make your Sales/Shipments??

Yes i do hit shipped... Its because of this?

What if i sell two used iphones now on ebay and paypal, they will limited because i move fast?
Everybody can have used iphone and create pp and ebay account only to sell these phones...
They advertise everyday sell your used phone sell these, but if i sell they limited me...

There should be limit then that before 1/2 month i cant sell more than a certain value, seems very unclear and very unfair...

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I suggest giving eBay Stealth a read through.. just what you mentioned so far you're doing a lot of things which would limit your account. You need to slow things down a bit and do it the right way.

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Understanding that eBay simply wants to protect its users. If you frequently list name brands, for example an Apple iPhone on eBay and want to have a little more freedom in doing so, you need to have a good, long-standing account and reputation with eBay is one of the best ways to get your limits raised. If your account is more than 90 days old, and you have a valid, verified PayPal account linked to your eBay account, this is a good start. Get in touch with eBay "Contact us" and request to speak with someone about how to get your limits lifted for reselling brand name goods.

You will need to show that you’ve sold authentic brand names in the past, and received positive feedback on each transaction. You will also need to show eBay where your items came from and have all invoices ready.

But my prob is not ebay, its working fine... Paypal limits account on every second sold

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Like aspkin said, you should take eBay Stealth a read through. Good luck friend

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If you're doing everything stealth, you're going to be limited with those high ticket items.

Even if you do it NOT stealth, with legitimate info, you will still be watched in the beginning just to make sure you're not a scammer.

The name of the game is to let time pass, gather trust, and staying under the radar

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iphone sales on a new account are risky OP

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Guys please explain last thing, should i wait like 10/20 euro item and sell nearly 10/20 items and then i start selling my own stuff?

Or anyother way? Please explain in little detail.. Thanks

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Your case looks like that they are linking your accounts.
Even clean and seperate accounts may be linked, for example by browser canvas fingerprint..

Actually, when the link the accounts normally they say it and they limit account instantly, but i am able to sell my first product and withdraw money, but as soon i receive second one, they limit it,

Thing is clear i move too fast,

Now really want to create a new account and make it good by selling cheap things.. But mh business will be stopped till that..

I don't think it's linking, they wouldn't let you sell one and get paid then limit your account, they'd limit you on the first sale.

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Ahhh if only Paypal were predictable, they dont always link immediately. I would say it does sound like linking.

IMHO I think that the high value high risk item trips a flag and someone looks at the account and then links it.

Without this you could probably go right up to your eu limit before being linked but as soon as they flick the switch on doc requests etc- someone takes a look and then boom they make the link again.....and they dont always tell you theyve linked it either.

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In my experience and in my opinion, based on work in banking and databases, the chances of a human identifying links between accounts rather than using an algorithm to identify links are, shall we say, remote.

Similarly, once a link is identified, there is no good reason for a computer to allow a high value sale to be paid out before limiting the account.

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I had a paypal account perm limited domain related, I opened 5/6 accounts after this and each and every one had a different story. No linking details at all, diff IP, diff name etc etc- the ONLY link was my domain.

Acc 1- perm limit at eu documents need lifting
Acc 2- perm limit within 3 days of using
Acc 3- soft limit with next day perm limit not nearing the eu limit
Acc 4- perm limit 2 weeks after using and stated link to old acc
Acc 5- nearing eu limit- currently still working and not limited but wont bother to submit docs since I know the drill right :) :)

All accounts had daily transactions- all accounts were eventually linked of course at different times and not immediately identified. Its random, it might not be human generated but accounts can still be linked even if there is no mention of the link or transactions are not immediately stopped is what I think Im trying to say here.

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I honestly don't know what you're trying to say or what your examples are intended to show?

I also have no idea what you mean about linking 'based on domain'.

I do know one thing - nothing about PayPal limitations is random, in the true sense of the word. The limitations are based on complex calculations of risk which are anything but random.

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This is so true.

Its all about patterns.

If you sell 1EUR items and then suddenly list 20k worth of phones and TVs and manage to sell few of them, you can be sure that they will limit the accounts.

Patterns.

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You say that like its perfectly normal to get linked? What the hell?

I've had my accounts close to 2 years now and never had any problems.

The mindset of "Ah, they'll be linked" seems to be flawed itself and seems like you've accepted that they will not last forever. That alone makes me question you as an account operator- Surely if you accept these sorts of things, you behave a certain way and perhaps are a bit reckless in certain aspects of your accounts?
Maybe the things that you don't pay attention to are causing the links.


I refuse to have a mentality that all accounts will be linked anyway, or that its just a matter of time before they get shut down. Seems like a very ignorant way of doing business.

:ranger:

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I pertain to my own particular set of circumstances. I do not use Ebay, I only use my own website. Thereby for my particular set of circumstances since my domain was blacklisted- all future stealth accounts or not will of course be limited if I continue to use the same website- since they will all link to the same domain. Hope that is crystal.

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As I said this is my set of circumstances, I dont use ebay. My issue was related to my website so what I am trying to say is paypal dont have a specific rule for limiting accounts- relating to the OP it is possible his accounts have been linked without them stating the link or the fact that they didnt limit him immediately.

Since they know I have a link (www.blahblahblah.com) is my blatant link and yet they continued to let me trade under several different accounts and giving several different reasons to the limitations eventually.

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Straight up dumbuser.

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Complex calculations and algorithms indeed

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what an odd response.

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I understand now about your domain.

Wow.

As soon as the PayPal system detects any risk in your accounts, it will also detect your link and limit your account.

I suggest you refrain from giving out any advice at all until you sharpen your methods.

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I have sharpened my methods, I think its why I gave the advice in order for others to not make the same mistakes. I have learnt from mine, surely this is how we all learn and I think the advice Ive offered in my experience is pretty valid.

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Don't repeatedly add PayPal accounts to the same website?

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We`re still way off the topic here arent we, full of sarcasm and one up manship when really.....getting back to the originial topic back to the OPs original question.....yes paypal can be linking you without telling you they linked you.....and yes paypal could let transactions go through a few times or even lots of times before limiting you. That just because they didnt tell you they linked you, and just because they didnt stop your account immediately......it is still possible youve been linked.

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No.

Why would that be the case? Nothing is 'random'.

As soon as PayPal detect any kind of risk, they will also detect a link and close your account. That is why buyer accounts in banned details are able to continue. The detections are made by automated computer systems.

Surely you've noticed a pattern in which you do something like receive a payment or make a withdrawal just before an account goes down? The system detects a risk, links and limits.

I'm not being sarcastic or oneupish at all! I genuinely don't know what experience was valid. I thought you understood what I was saying and so I was trying to establish what experience was valid.

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So you never get limited after first iphone sale?
How much is the first sale? And how old is paypal when you make a sale?

I was doing same thing over the years, but from July 26th when paypal limits account after first sale, I can't do it anymore.
You don't get limited after first sale, it is very good, makes me wanna try again.