Can paypal trace your address through IP? - eBay Suspended & PayPal Limited Forums
eBay Suspension & PayPal Limited Forums  
Join Today
Register Subscribe
     

Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!


Go Back   Home > Marketplace Discussions > PayPal Talk

PayPal Talk PayPal Forums. General issues related to PayPal.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 04-13-2009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 59
Thanks: 16
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 83%
iTrader: (0)
Default Can paypal trace your address through IP?

IF you have a stealth account is paypal allowed to trace who you are through your IP address?
Reply With Quote
The complete step-by-step guide to get back to selling today!

  #2  
Old 04-14-2009
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1,853
Thanks: 39
Thanked 204 Times in 143 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 93%
iTrader: (51)
Default

No paypal can not get your address through a ip not even the Gov can get your address all they can get is a vicinity of where your at like city and state. The isp might have your excat location but i dout it and if they did it would be illegal to give that info to people lilke ebay and paypal.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to doughboykilla For This Useful Post:
waterproof (04-19-2009)
  #3  
Old 04-17-2009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 52
Thanks: 3
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 85%
iTrader: (0)
Default

they could probably get it if they were investigating your account as a criminal matter because then I'm sure the ISP would turn your information over.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-17-2009
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,814
Thanks: 454
Thanked 287 Times in 233 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 90%
iTrader: (2)
Default

The ISP has your exact address, of course. You pay them with a CC or debit card and have your internet provided to a certain address. However, ISPs will require a court order to turn this over, hence, the whole criminal investigation thing. You would have had to be a pretty bad person for this to happen, and Paypal would be the least of your worries.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-17-2009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 163
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 88%
iTrader: (0)
Default

only the police and the home office can obtain addresses from ip , then they have to have good grounds. the isp do not give away that information without a strict verification process. take BT broadband.. the ip only goes back to the main server in basildon essex. all subscribers go to that server only. paypal can match up cookies and flash cookies though. they have sophiticated bot software that can detect unusual activity, it gets flagged for an agent to investigate
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-19-2009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 52
Thanks: 3
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 85%
iTrader: (0)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by badebay View Post
only the police and the home office can obtain addresses from ip , then they have to have good grounds. the isp do not give away that information without a strict verification process. take BT broadband.. the ip only goes back to the main server in basildon essex. all subscribers go to that server only. paypal can match up cookies and flash cookies though. they have sophiticated bot software that can detect unusual activity, it gets flagged for an agent to investigate
Yeah I guess the thing is what is considered good grounds? If someone has sold ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or not delivered items and paypal is out of a few hundred dollars I find it hard to believe they'd bother but I'm sure they would if it was a large amount.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-19-2009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 163
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 88%
iTrader: (0)
Default

they wont have grounds for such a small matter....be different if it was mega bucks and criminal intent. it took a court order here to get ip adresses due to the data protecton act.. its very strict in the u.k. i attended a college and the 1st thing we were taught was a lengthy data protection procedure module. its against the law to flout the data protection act and they can go to jail
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-19-2009
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 89
Thanks: 16
Thanked 13 Times in 8 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 83%
iTrader: (0)
Default

I agree,

I have a bit of history with Paypal in a other country and they can't do anything the talk a lot, but that is all. Don't worry just make sure you don't use accounts in you own name.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-20-2009
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 52
Thanks: 3
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 85%
iTrader: (0)
Default

yeah no worries. I wonder at what amount they would look into some kind of tracing through the bank you used or ISP.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-16-2010
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 6
Thanks: 1
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 84%
iTrader: (0)
Default

court order? lol, they can request it and print that from the patrol car.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to egw106 For This Useful Post:
fiercygoat (02-10-2018)
  #11  
Old 03-16-2010
NZT's Avatar
NZT NZT is offline
Executive [VIP]
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 725
Thanks: 128
Thanked 89 Times in 67 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 87%
iTrader: (0)
Default

My Opinion is that paypal or ebay will not trace your address as this could be adverse publicity for them and therefore not good.

The only time you will hear from them (well not them but a collection agency of their behalf) is when you owe fees.

When I used to use my real details on accounts and I was suspended I received letters from collection agencies which I duly paid.

Now I only use stealth and never hear anything apart from the odd email in an old email account in box saying "please contact us regarding a personal business matter!"

The only time you will be busted in a big way is if an individual or a group of individuals take action against you.

If you search on google you will find many stories regarding this.

But Paypal or ebay will NEVER instigate this kind of action, they will only ever co-operate will goverment bodies (which will not be a whole lot either)
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 03-20-2010
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 417
Thanks: 8
Thanked 26 Times in 22 Posts
Activity: 1%
Longevity: 92%
iTrader: (0)
Default

I dont think they ever try to trace anyone

1) completely agree about the negative publicity
2) To get that info paypal has to have reason to get that info and we all know their reasonings are laughable at best. You cant base a case on "we noticed suspicious activity on the account" haha
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 03-20-2010
oge oge is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,539
Thanks: 160
Thanked 293 Times in 218 Posts
Activity: 0%
Longevity: 79%
iTrader: (14)
Default

Yes the funny thing is that even tho PayPal thinks something is "fraudulent" doesn't mean that the police is coming.


Now this story is funny. I heard about this strory where this guy hacked into a database. It was a car lot that sales cars on monthly payments but has a gps tracking device that they use to disable your car if you do not make your monthly payments. Well the guy who hacked the database ending up disabling about 100 people cars who made thier monthly payments. How did they catch this hacker HIS IP. Brought the police right to his house and he is being charged with felonies.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
amazon use shipper account to trace? 0804 Amazon 2 07-29-2009 04:39 PM
Paypal to cash with no trace leonid5000 Subscriber Discussions 2 04-03-2009 07:47 PM
Using an email address that is NOT a Paypal account as your Paypal payment address hatebay PayPal Talk 7 11-12-2008 09:23 PM
Adding REAL address as a Gift address on Paypal nek666 PayPal Talk 6 07-05-2008 09:10 PM
Ebay can trace your account through Paypal - heres how... mattcafc eBay Suspensions 10 05-23-2007 02:04 PM


Aspkin Group

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:49 PM.


Stop the guessing games and learn how you can quickly and easily get back on eBay today!
Read the best selling step-by-step eBay Suspension guide eBay Stealth!
Amazon Suspension? Read Amazon Ghost to get back on Amazon!
vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger
no new posts