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| yankee | 04-09-2018 08:43 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
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Originally Posted by dealagreeproceed
(Post 913073)
the thing i dont understand is why would PP prefer you to withdraw to your bank rather than purchasing stuff with your funds... i dont get it... whats the point...
| It is a USA law, not paypals choice but all in all, I think paypals exposure to risk will be reduced. It will curtail some of the scammers a bit along with ****ty sellers. At least cripple the lazy ones. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 04-09-2018 08:54 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
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Originally Posted by Moscutter
(Post 913045)
Can someone give me a run down on what's going on? My dad has a few paypal accounts he sells legit stuff on, that he keeps like 10-15k in .
|
Unless losing that much money wouldn't bother you guys, try and make a practice of keeping a lot less in there. Just in case it all goes bad.. |
| Hercules | 04-09-2018 09:39 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Well if you had emptied a PP that had no bank (how ever you did this) what if a buyer/thief wants a big refund/return, how are you supposed to fill it back up? |
| yankee | 04-09-2018 09:43 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
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Originally Posted by Hercules
(Post 913142)
Well if you had emptied a PP that had no bank (how ever you did this) what if a buyer/thief wants a big refund/return, how are you supposed to fill it back up?
| That is a good question.
Have you made a new account in the past month or so and run into this? |
| Hercules | 04-09-2018 10:16 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
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Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 913143)
That is a good question.
Have you made a new account in the past month or so and run into this?
| Forget I asked...I know what to do, thanks |
| nocash | 04-09-2018 01:01 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
So what will happen to accounts that already have a balance? Will that balance need to be transferred to bank as well? Opinions on this? |
| yankee | 04-09-2018 01:03 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
It is pretty cut and dry. If they cant verify your name/address/DOB you can only withdraw to a bank account. Nothing else. |
| Hercules | 04-09-2018 01:16 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
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Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 913180)
It is pretty cut and dry. If they cant verify your name/address/DOB you can only withdraw to a bank account. Nothing else.
| That's once and forever. You think they will let you use it after that? I think not and there may be a message to EB that things are not kosher...who knows |
| ebaystealth1974 | 04-09-2018 01:16 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by nocash
(Post 913179)
So what will happen to accounts that already have a balance? Will that balance need to be transferred to bank as well? Opinions on this?
| Opinion doesn't play into this. If they can't verify you, it can only be withdrawn to a bank. |
| yankee | 04-09-2018 01:20 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
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Originally Posted by Hercules
(Post 913188)
That's once and forever. You think they will let you use it after that? I think not and there may be a message to EB that things are not kosher...who knows
| I doubt it. It is just PayPal following the new federal laws. Keep in mind, WE ALREADY have several accounts effected by this for about a month. So far no surprises. The only idiot who was and still is surprised is Kajun. |
| Gladiator | 04-09-2018 01:21 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hercules
(Post 913188)
That's once and forever. You think they will let you use it after that? I think not and there may be a message to EB that things are not kosher...who knows
| Where do you get the one time thing notion from? That’s not the case. |
| nocash | 04-09-2018 01:25 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
I had one account with the following message. I just included random information and obviously it didn’t verify. But now there isn’t an option to try again lol. |
| yankee | 04-09-2018 01:28 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by nocash
(Post 913196)
I had one account with the following message. I just included random information and obviously it didn’t verify. But now there isn’t an option to try again lol.
| Not something that you could try again.... You either pass or you fail. But did the account get limited? Can you still add a bank account? |
| nocash | 04-09-2018 01:30 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
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Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 913198)
Not something that you could try again.... You either pass or you fail. But did the account get limited? Can you still add a bank account?
| Yes sir, you can still add a bank account. I’m sure after you call PayPal, you can attempt to verify again. I mean what if I were to enter the wrong details by accident? Goodbye account? It wouldn’t make sense for them to be like that, but then again. It’s PayPal.
Anyways, is all they’re asking for is last four digits of SSN and DOB? What about if you have an Avs vcc and bank account? |
| yankee | 04-09-2018 01:55 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
My experience is the ask 3 questions. Exactly the same as ebay has done the past years on selling limits. You have to get 2 out of the 3 right.
You CAN call in and do it manually. My technique is required for this. So far, no problems. |
| nocash | 04-09-2018 02:14 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 913210)
My experience is the ask 3 questions. Exactly the same as ebay has done the past years on selling limits. You have to get 2 out of the 3 right.
You CAN call in and do it manually. My technique is required for this. So far, no problems.
| Ohhh, okay, so you answered their database questions and they verified your account? |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
I just went to buy something off an EB account. I dont know if it was a PP glitch or what but I went to pay with paypal balance and it kept kicking me back to paying with debit or credit card through PP. After like the 5th try it let me pay with PP balance. |
| slokor | 04-09-2018 03:59 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Sounds like a glitch.
If it was this new ToS update you wouldn't be able to use the balance period. |
| Hercules | 04-09-2018 04:31 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
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Originally Posted by Gladiator
(Post 913193)
Where do you get the one time thing notion from? That’s not the case.
| So you think if you fail to be verified they will let you continue using PP for (sales only) to transfer money to your bank? |
| Gladiator | 04-09-2018 04:59 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
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Originally Posted by Hercules
(Post 913257)
So you think if you fail to be verified they will let you continue using PP for (sales only) to transfer money to your bank?
| Up until a certain amount, that’s the way it’s always been and isn’t changing. |
| yankee | 04-09-2018 05:21 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
I wish people would stop sending me PMs and just ask here.
Nothing really is changing other that you cant send funds at all. Just withdraw to bank.
People need to stop having fire sales and paranoia. We have accounts that this is already happening to. It is NO BIG DEAL if you use bank accounts! |
| Gladiator | 04-09-2018 05:32 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 913264)
I wish people would stop sending me PMs and just ask here.
Nothing really is changing other that you cant send funds at all. Just withdraw to bank.
People need to stop having fire sales and paranoia. We have accounts that this is already happening to. It is NO BIG DEAL if you use bank accounts!
| And if they are in the US they can get an EIN and calm the hell down if they are that paranoid. |
| GStevens | 04-09-2018 06:25 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Have a fully verified stealth account with a bank account attached and can't even withdraw. Get an error saying "Sorry, we need more information. Please contact Customer Service for assistance.". The only work around I found is getting a paypal business debit and withdrawing from the ATM. You can alternatively buy stuff on ebay but can only be a small amount of money in one transaction (less than $100). Idk if someone found a workaround please let the stealth community know. |
| ilcarletto | 04-10-2018 01:20 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by GStevens
(Post 913283)
Have a fully verified stealth account with a bank account attached and can't even withdraw. Get an error saying "Sorry, we need more information. Please contact Customer Service for assistance.". The only work around I found is getting a paypal business debit and withdrawing from the ATM. You can alternatively buy stuff on ebay but can only be a small amount of money in one transaction (less than $100). Idk if someone found a workaround please let the stealth community know.
| Hi, welcome to the forum!
Is contacting the Customer Service for assistance not an option?
Why don't try to fix the account? |
| just_smile | 04-10-2018 02:46 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 913264)
I wish people would stop sending me PMs and just ask here.
Nothing really is changing other that you cant send funds at all. Just withdraw to bank.
People need to stop having fire sales and paranoia. We have accounts that this is already happening to. It is NO BIG DEAL if you use bank accounts!
| Agreed, i dont see why this thread has ballooned to this size. Seems like a non issue to me. |
| Kajunrook | 04-10-2018 06:38 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
I guess you have no other life but slamming other people, Is that how yhou get your Jollies, pretty pathetic Yankee. Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 913192)
I doubt it. It is just PayPal following the new federal laws. Keep in mind, WE ALREADY have several accounts effected by this for about a month. So far no surprises. The only idiot who was and still is surprised is Kajun.
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| Hercules | 04-10-2018 07:26 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by just_smile
(Post 913358)
Agreed, i dont see why this thread has ballooned to this size. Seems like a non issue to me.
| It was the timing of the change at PP. After EB mentioned it was dumping PP a couple of weeks later PP changed their policy....it was/is a shared panic from very limited info about what's coming ahead. |
| jezza | 04-10-2018 10:01 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
I got totally lost in this thread, please someone tell me if I will be affected.
1. I have many Paypal accounts in "Withdraw to Card" countries, will I still be able to withdraw to card and bank, send payments, and buy stuff
2. I also have many UK accounts with banks attached, can I also withdraw to bank, send money, and buy stuff |
| HurricaneHuntr | 04-10-2018 10:12 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by GStevens
(Post 913283)
Have a fully verified stealth account with a bank account attached and can't even withdraw. Get an error saying "Sorry, we need more information. Please contact Customer Service for assistance.". The only work around I found is getting a paypal business debit and withdrawing from the ATM. You can alternatively buy stuff on ebay but can only be a small amount of money in one transaction (less than $100). Idk if someone found a workaround please let the stealth community know.
| Happen to me today... i sent 1200 to bank other day, 900 to my business account via friends, and then today sent another 900 to my business, and then today tried to withdraw 850... wouldn't let me. I lowered the amount to 500 and it went through to let me withdraw to bank. Probably some sort of security feature.. i bet you been withdrawing a lot lately, or sending a lot? |
| HurricaneHuntr | 04-10-2018 10:15 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by jezza
(Post 913418)
I got totally lost in this thread, please someone tell me if I will be affected.
1. I have many Paypal accounts in "Withdraw to Card" countries, will I still be able to withdraw to card and bank, send payments, and buy stuff
2. I also have many UK accounts with banks attached, can I also withdraw to bank, send money, and buy stuff
| Think this only affects usa paypals..If it goes as i think the majority of us think it will.This is what will happen.
You either add a bank to your paypal or add your SSN/EIN to become verified like always... If you're running paypals without a bank you will need to add one to send the money to anyone. Now, you can also add a SSN/EIN and then you can send funds to other people..
If i am mistaken, someone correct me. |
| Hercules | 04-10-2018 11:33 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moscutter
(Post 913422)
Think this only affects usa paypals..If it goes as i think the majority of us think it will.This is what will happen.
You either add a bank to your paypal or add your SSN/EIN to become verified like always... If you're running paypals without a bank you will need to add one to send the money to anyone. Now, you can also add a SSN/EIN and then you can send funds to other people..
If i am mistaken, someone correct me.
| That's what is says but I never trust them anymore. I had two recently go beyond the 180 days..asking for docks afterwards to add a bank. I had to use all my B.S. stories to get them to give it up which they did (180) days mind you...aholes. |
| slokor | 04-10-2018 11:47 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moscutter
(Post 913422)
Think this only affects usa paypals..If it goes as i think the majority of us think it will.This is what will happen.
You either add a bank to your paypal or add your SSN/EIN to become verified like always... If you're running paypals without a bank you will need to add one to send the money to anyone. Now, you can also add a SSN/EIN and then you can send funds to other people..
If i am mistaken, someone correct me.
| Read what the paypal ToS update states.
They state that if the account is not 'verified' then you will only be able to withdraw funds to your bank account. This implies the account has a bank account attached yet is NOT 'verified'. |
| phaz0rz | 04-10-2018 11:55 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
This thing is still going?
We need a sticky thread with all info up top.. |
| HurricaneHuntr | 04-10-2018 03:15 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by slokor
(Post 913441)
Read what the paypal ToS update states.
They state that if the account is not 'verified' then you will only be able to withdraw funds to your bank account. This implies the account has a bank account attached yet is NOT 'verified'.
| Remember to be verified it's not just a bank. It's a CC + BANK, or BANK + SSN/EIN . All my accounts i make money on, have a combo of those. I just don't see all of a sudden people logging into their paypal and a pop up comes up and makes them answer questions, let's say they get the questions wrong and then they are asked to put in ssn etc.. Do you know how much that is going to impact ebay and other site's sales? Additionally, if this were a thing..Wouldn't they just have started it already opposed to all of a sudden springing it on all accounts at once? I dunno, i am not denying anything is a possibility. That's why i am taking money out every day now until the final day.Which tbh i am not sure what that day is lol. I'll just throw extra cash in savings or a CD , i usually let it sit in paypal myself, as moronic as that's been before,
As hercules said, sometimes they are a pain in the ass even after 180 days. Thank god my amazon suspension wasn't authenticity related..man i'd be FURIOUS with that much money gone.
Gonna create some extra paypals, |
| ebaystealth1974 | 04-10-2018 03:27 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moscutter
(Post 913479)
Gonna create some extra paypals, and buy some vba's... VBA prices may go up.
| People are still selling those? :confused: |
| jporter396 | 04-10-2018 03:40 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
who even makes their stealths without credit card verify, phone verify, email verify, bank confirmation. those are key elements to creating a new paypal account. Id imagine people who have done this should be fine and would be considered fully verified |
| yankee | 04-10-2018 06:12 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Umm.....No....SSN or database questions going forward.
Verify your IDENTITY. |
| HurricaneHuntr | 04-10-2018 07:47 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 913510)
Umm.....No....SSN or database questions going forward.
Verify your IDENTITY.
| I think people are reading too much into it. If they require some sort of docs to verify identity, they will be overwhelmed and it'd be a PR nightmare. You can't ask hundred million people for identity docs at once. Just created a new account today and nothing has changed since i did it 6 months ago |
| HurricaneHuntr | 04-10-2018 07:48 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974
(Post 913483)
People are still selling those? :confused:
| why wouldn't they? VBA verifies your paypal and allows you unlimited withdraw limit |
| aquabats | 04-10-2018 08:04 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moscutter
(Post 913518)
why wouldn't they? VBA verifies your paypal and allows you unlimited withdraw limit
|
So Is a VBA the solution to get rid of ''claim your money'' restriction? |
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