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| slokor | 04-10-2018 09:11 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
No. It is not.
Yet again - the wording states that unless youre verified you can only pull the funds to your bank account which implies that you can have a bank account attached to the paypal and yet NOT be verified. |
| nocash | 04-10-2018 09:33 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Yeah I don’t think they’ll ask for documents. I was lucky to have an account with the updated terms. When you get a payment, you will receive an email saying “money is waiting for you” also, you will be given the option to withdraw to bank (I added a bank and withdrew just fine) I also sent another payment to the account and it still asks to claim the money. I was able to withdraw again no problem. I still haven’t verified the account and everything is fine.
Now, on my other account, i chose to verify it instead. They don’t mean to verify with a bank and credit card. They mean your social security, and date of birth. If they don’t match, then you will only be able to withdraw. I purposely entered false information. I called PayPal and they told me to submit a copy of my ssn and drivers license. Since this was false information, I pretty much killed the account, but I’m still able to withdraw.
I’m hoping this clarifies some things. I know I’m not the best at explaining things haha. |
| GreenBean | 04-10-2018 09:35 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974
(Post 913483)
People are still selling those? :confused:
| Not here.
:spy: |
| HurricaneHuntr | 04-10-2018 09:37 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by nocash
(Post 913534)
Yeah I don’t think they’ll ask for documents. I was lucky to have an account with the updated terms. When you get a payment, you will receive an email saying “money is waiting for you” also, you will be given the option to withdraw to bank (I added a bank and withdrew just fine) I also sent another payment to the account and it still asks to claim the money. I was able to withdraw again no problem. I still haven’t verified the account and everything is fine.
Now, on my other account, i chose to verify it instead. They don’t mean to verify with a bank and credit card. They mean your social security, and date of birth. If they don’t match, then you will only be able to withdraw. I purposely entered false information. I called PayPal and they told me to submit a copy of my ssn and drivers license. Since this was false information, I pretty much killed the account, but I’m still able to withdraw.
I’m hoping this clarifies some things. I know I’m not the best at explaining things haha.
| Intersting, makes me wonder on accounts with EIN's how does this affect those? Gonna keep withdrawing still, when does this go live? And so if this is the case, you know who's going to really be killed by this? Ebay. Unless they are allowed to automatically get funds anyway. Because, while you and i might have our reasons for not providing ssn/dob there is thousands and millions of people who don't want to do it, simply because they feel it's not safe to do it. THOSE people are going to have a fit, if what you mentioned is true. |
| GreenBean | 04-10-2018 09:42 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people o
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moscutter
(Post 913518)
why wouldn't they? VBA verifies your paypal and allows you unlimited withdraw limit
| Forum not dealing with them. Stop talking about them.
Been changes since you were active like these past days.
Keep in mind a paypal is verified by bank account plus releveant US if used. It also needs a CC/VCC to confirm.
Where bothare attached to account, paypal has a better degree of trust.
=} info is for USA paypals only |
| Hercules | 04-10-2018 10:20 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
To me this PP thing may be no biggy but if you remember EB's message about Adyen there was a definite 'and some more verification' or something like that when describing what will come next. I don't think any of this sh*t will be a factor at all. Shrink the sellers and die slowly EB. Just think of all the newby's out there beyond your time here way in the future. Getting flagged out and never having the chance to come back? LOL |
| smartguy | 04-11-2018 01:07 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by nocash
(Post 913534)
Yeah I don’t think they’ll ask for documents. I was lucky to have an account with the updated terms. When you get a payment, you will receive an email saying “money is waiting for you” also, you will be given the option to withdraw to bank (I added a bank and withdrew just fine) I also sent another payment to the account and it still asks to claim the money. I was able to withdraw again no problem. I still haven’t verified the account and everything is fine.
Now, on my other account, i chose to verify it instead. They don’t mean to verify with a bank and credit card. They mean your social security, and date of birth. If they don’t match, then you will only be able to withdraw. I purposely entered false information. I called PayPal and they told me to submit a copy of my ssn and drivers license. Since this was false information, I pretty much killed the account, but I’m still able to withdraw.
I’m hoping this clarifies some things. I know I’m not the best at explaining things haha.
| Try to upgrade it to a business account and let us know if they still ask for an SSN or an EIN. Are these payments from ebay? |
| ebaystealth1974 | 04-11-2018 01:24 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moscutter
(Post 913518)
why wouldn't they? VBA verifies your paypal and allows you unlimited withdraw limit
| Well... you won't find any for sale on here. :spy: |
| smartguy | 04-11-2018 07:26 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
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| smartguy | 04-11-2018 07:28 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
They also talk a lot, a lot about the data they collect, in details. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 04-11-2018 07:49 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by smartguy
(Post 913675)
Try to upgrade it to a business account and let us know if they still ask for an SSN or an EIN.
|
Sounds like someone has never had a business account. |
| smartguy | 04-11-2018 07:56 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974
(Post 913789)
Sounds like someone has never had a business account.
| I have a few. I am still getting payments, and I never get that "claim your money" on them yet. I am trying to figure out why some people get it, and why others don't. Please note that PayPal also wrote in their tos update that money will be "generally available" if they can confirm. |
| BaggaDonuts | 04-11-2018 08:02 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by smartguy
(Post 913793)
I have a few. I am still getting payments, and I never get that "claim your money" on them yet. I am trying to figure out why some people get it, and why others don't. Please note that PayPal also wrote in their tos update that money will be "generally available" if they can confirm.
| I've found transactions from Ebay are not subject to the 'claim your money' transactions, and that it is more from website or direct transactions.
Business accounts need an EIN, you can choose whether to have the earnings reported on your EIN, or SSN for the account if you have both connected to the account (not sure why there is the option.)
I'm finding since the TOS change, that accounts that were not fully verified and have passed their 180 day limit will not allow withdraw via check. They may allow via bank account, but that is not an option for me. I'm working on a workaround but I just wanted to let anyone know who is thinking they'll be cashing out their limited accounts via check with the same ease that they used to and plan accordingly. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 04-11-2018 08:19 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by smartguy
(Post 913793)
I have a few.
| You have a few business accounts, yet you are asking someone to create one and see if they ask for SSN/EIN? One of us is confused! :lol:
And it AIN'T me! |
| Gladiator | 04-11-2018 08:21 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974
(Post 913802)
You have a few business accounts, yet you are asking someone to create one and see if they ask for SSN/EIN? One of us is confused! :lol:
| http://78.media.tumblr.com/b21dc618e...pjqeo1_500.gif
Every day I wonder how these people operate websites. I want to be a fly on the wall... just watch the majestic stealthers in the wild mess things up. |
| smartguy | 04-11-2018 08:33 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974
(Post 913802)
You have a few business accounts, yet you are asking someone to create one and see if they ask for SSN/EIN? One of us is confused! :lol:
And it AIN'T me!
| I asked that guy who got the "Claim your money" to upgrade to business and see what options he got. Have anyone reported back about business accounts ? no. there were just a few screenshots from personal accounts here and there, and that's all. the guy who first upload a picture of this problem, refused to click "other options" and take a second screenshot.
I haven't asked anyone on this forum to create an business one, but that specific user to upgrade it to business and see the options.
:violin:
I never had an account with "claim your money" message. i tried to do 3 accounts today, sent 3 small payments, none get me that message. all 3 accounts where personal, not verified, payments sent as "for goods" |
| ebaystealth1974 | 04-11-2018 08:35 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by smartguy
(Post 913812)
Have anyone reported back about business accounts ? no.
| There's a good reason for that lol |
| smartguy | 04-11-2018 08:39 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974
(Post 913813)
There's a good reason for that lol
| what is the reason? |
| Gladiator | 04-11-2018 08:42 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by smartguy
(Post 913815)
what is the reason?
| GIMME AN E!
GIMME AN I!
GIMME AN N!
What's that spell? EIN!
EIN's are sexy, cute and popular to boot. |
| GreenBean | 04-11-2018 08:45 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Oh dear.
:yar: |
| Gladiator | 04-11-2018 08:47 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Seriously, we've covered this topic. People upgrade, provide business numbers depending on the location, most using EIN's, so they aren't having this problem. You aren't rocking a business account without providing info to upgrade.
I feel dumb even continuing to talk about this, ha. |
| smartguy | 04-11-2018 08:49 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gladiator
(Post 913819)
Seriously, we've covered this topic. People upgrade, provide business numbers depending on the location, most using EIN's, so they aren't having this problem. You aren't rocking a business account without providing info to upgrade.
I feel dumb even continuing to talk about this, ha.
| Just wanted to be sure. When they limit an Business account they always ask for ID, proof of address and so on...very rarely the business registration/creation papers. |
| Gladiator | 04-11-2018 08:50 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by smartguy
(Post 913820)
Just wanted to be sure. When they limit an Business account they always ask for ID, proof of address and so on...very rarely the business registration/creation papers.
| Still wouldn't have anything to do with the topic at hand. |
| smartguy | 04-11-2018 08:52 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Fine. Let's wait and we will see. |
| Gladiator | 04-11-2018 08:54 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
My concern level for this on my EIN/Bank Linked Business Accounts is exactly 0.0%
There's nothing to wait and see with here. This update isn't about those kind of accounts. Good heavens.... |
| slokor | 04-11-2018 08:55 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gladiator
(Post 913824)
My concern level for this on my EIN/Bank Linked Business Accounts is exactly 0.0%
There's nothing to wait and see with here. This update isn't about those kind of accounts. Good heavens....
| Your wasting your breath.
This guy is in total paranoia mode and has been for weeks.
Nothing you say will change that.
For him the sky is falling and we are all doomed. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 04-12-2018 09:23 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gladiator
(Post 913816)
GIMME AN E!
GIMME AN I!
GIMME AN N!
What's that spell? EIN!
EIN's are sexy, cute and popular to boot.
| I laughed out loud! :lol: |
| jezza | 04-12-2018 12:56 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moscutter
(Post 913422)
Think this only affects usa paypals..If it goes as i think the majority of us think it will.This is what will happen.
You either add a bank to your paypal or add your SSN/EIN to become verified like always... If you're running paypals without a bank you will need to add one to send the money to anyone. Now, you can also add a SSN/EIN and then you can send funds to other people..
If i am mistaken, someone correct me.
| Thanks and what date does it come into force, I will do some future proofing just in case |
| slokor | 04-12-2018 01:23 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
The ToS is scheduled to go live next week - April 19th. |
| HurricaneHuntr | 04-12-2018 04:16 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Not sure if this was the question being asked. 4/10 2 days ago. I created a personal, upgraded it to business. It asked for last 4 of ssn and date of birth. I also provided my EIN i am using.
Keep in mind, this is a stealth account.
It upgraded fine ;) |
| Gladiator | 04-12-2018 04:26 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moscutter
(Post 913997)
Not sure if this was the question being asked. 4/10 2 days ago. I created a personal, upgraded it to business. It asked for last 4 of ssn and date of birth. I also provided my EIN i am using.
Keep in mind, this is a stealth account.
It upgraded fine ;)
| ...Yeah. This has been known way for years. |
| HurricaneHuntr | 04-12-2018 04:33 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gladiator
(Post 913999)
...Yeah. This has been known way for years.
| I know, i thought someone asked if it was still working that way. all good. |
| Gladiator | 04-12-2018 04:56 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moscutter
(Post 914000)
I know, i thought someone asked if it was still working that way. all good.
| That was Chicken Little. :bird: |
| HurricaneHuntr | 04-12-2018 07:59 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gladiator
(Post 914004)
That was Chicken Little. :bird:
| I see, i was just making a new one and i noticed "verified complete" was obtained by adding a bank account. I think all of us worry about the worst, but it's likely not going to be that bad. Ebay situation is a different story, that's going to be bad news unless you have an EIN on every one and let it go as high as possible. |
| Gladiator | 04-12-2018 08:55 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moscutter
(Post 914037)
I see, i was just making a new one and i noticed "verified complete" was obtained by adding a bank account. I think all of us worry about the worst, but it's likely not going to be that bad. Ebay situation is a different story, that's going to be bad news unless you have an EIN on every one and let it go as high as possible.
| eBay with Adyen is gonna be easier for US stealth. Yeah you will need an ein if you make over 20,000 but if the account is good it’s a small price. |
| GreenBean | 04-12-2018 09:08 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gladiator
(Post 914044)
eBay with Adyen is gonna be easier for US stealth. Yeah you will need an ein if you make over 20,000 but if the account is good it’s a small price.
| Part of the panic will be the inability of some users to discern what is a small price let alone a good account.
:dance: |
| Gladiator | 04-12-2018 09:18 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 914047)
Part of the panic will be the inability of some users to discern what is a small price let alone a good account.
:dance:
| True. They will make things overly difficult I’m sure. |
| dealagreeproceed | 04-12-2018 10:08 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by slokor
(Post 913958)
The ToS is scheduled to go live next week - April 19th.
| feels like y2k disaster all over again...:ballchain::help::bird: |
| ebaystealth1974 | 04-13-2018 10:11 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gladiator
(Post 914044)
Yeah you will need an ein if you make over 20,000 but if the account is good it’s a small price.
| #nonsense
:laugh: |
| smartguy | 04-13-2018 02:48 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
last 5 days...time to buy cryptos :D |
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