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| phaz0rz | 03-11-2018 08:30 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
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Originally Posted by cp74
(Post 906740)
| Ding ding ding!!! Quote:
Some of that same information was used to register four accounts at PayPal, which according to its website, only requires a bank account and an email address to sign up. The defendants also allegedly opened 14 other PayPal accounts by buying credit card numbers and bank information that had been created with the stolen identities of real people. That operation used a combination of 14 unique bank accounts, six banks, and 11 email addresses.
| This update directly relates to the Russia fiasco. No wonder the hammer is coming down so hard. The account sellers sold accounts to Russian trolls who haxx0red the election, now Paypal is being forced to fix a problem they'd rather let slide. |
| Hercules | 03-11-2018 09:13 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
blinking in awe |
| Hercules | 03-11-2018 09:18 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
cookies are fun |
| Hercules | 03-11-2018 09:20 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
[quote=phaz0rz;906765]I've read all about Adyen being the NWO payment solution, but I just don't buy it. They have multiple offices in the USA so they're far from out of the gov't's reach.
I believe that |
| Hercules | 03-11-2018 09:21 AM |
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not understanding |
| Hercules | 03-11-2018 09:29 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Where are ok |
| Hercules | 03-11-2018 09:59 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
[quote=phaz0rz;906782]Sellers using big mouth nobody |
| yankee | 03-11-2018 10:10 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
This thread has become all speculation. PP's last email leaves more questions than answers and still to this day, not all emails on all accounts are the same. I guess we will know in about 5 weeks LOL |
| Hercules | 03-11-2018 11:08 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
What I read is that you can't send or receive if it's not verified (what ever that means).
If it's verified to PP's liking (what ever that intales) you can send and receive from other PP's....I hope, whatever. |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
I'm a little surprised about who's been commenting on this thread. I would guess this could effect a lot of people and it's seems to only be the same 10 or so that are staying on top of this. Over the last couple years I've read a lot of threads and envisioned a lot of high vol. sellers on this forum.
I'm wondering why their not commenting (possibly didn't get the same emails maybe because of EIN) or they had already changed strategies and sell somewhere else? Or maybe just watching??? Or maybe they were only here for the conversation and talked a good game...
Seems to me a lot of the people who were here last year are MIA... |
| phaz0rz | 03-11-2018 11:36 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by nate
(Post 906796)
I'm a little surprised about who's been commenting on this thread. I would guess this could effect a lot of people and it's seems to only be the same 10 or so that are staying on top of this. Over the last couple years I've read a lot of threads and envisioned a lot of high vol. sellers on this forum.
I'm wondering why their not commenting (possibly didn't get the same emails maybe because of EIN) or they had already changed strategies and sell somewhere else? Or maybe just watching??? Or maybe they were only here for the conversation and talked a good game...
Seems to me a lot of the people who were here last year are MIA...
| I very rarely check my stealth account emails. I only became aware of this update because I was already on the forum and saw the thread. I'm betting there will be a massive influx of confused stealthers once the updates actually go into effect and users can't access their funds.
Aside from that though I think a lot of people either don't last long in the stealth world, or they post on the forums just long enough to get an understanding of how to use their account and then they're gone. |
| slokor | 03-11-2018 11:46 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 906746)
This update directly relates to the Russia fiasco. No wonder the hammer is coming down so hard. The account sellers sold accounts to Russian trolls who haxx0red the election, now Paypal is being forced to fix a problem they'd rather let slide.
| Love how you just say 'Account sellers' sold accounts to Russians bundling all sellers from this forum with some two bit hack who ran a piss poor website/operation and didn't bother vetting any of his customers.
Good going there bud. |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Yea, its all your fault.... Nah J/k... I'm sure they had enough help to make their own accounts. But it sound like its the logical explanation for whats happening. Like I said before what PP is doing doesn't sound logical but if you take this into account it does. |
| slokor | 03-11-2018 12:02 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
This thread is getting off topic.
You can speculate all you want as to why theyre doing it but it doesnt change the simple fact that its happening.
Lets stay on track here shall we? And try not to insult any other members of the forums in the process. |
| empirestate | 03-11-2018 12:28 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
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Originally Posted by slokor
(Post 906810)
This thread is getting off topic.
You can speculate all you want as to why theyre doing it but it doesnt change the simple fact that its happening.
Lets stay on track here shall we? And try not to insult any other members of the forums in the process.
| Same old Slokor, trying to control everybody. This is not dictatorship you know... |
| slokor | 03-11-2018 12:30 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
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Originally Posted by empirestate
(Post 906814)
Same old Slokor, trying to control everybody. This is not dictatorship you know...
| Same old Empirestate - useless comments and constant trolling. |
| empirestate | 03-11-2018 12:38 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
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We’re changing the balance functionality for your PayPal account depending on whether we have been able to verify identifying information that you provide to us.
If we have not verified your identifying information, a balance in your PayPal account can generally only be held in your PayPal account and transferred to a linked bank account or debit card.
If we have verified your identifying information, a balance in your PayPal account can be held in your PayPal account, transferred to a linked bank account or debit card, used to make purchases or send money to others.
| This is definitely the "Claim It" messages floating around... |
| slokor | 03-11-2018 12:40 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
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Originally Posted by empirestate
(Post 906818)
This is definitely the "Claim It" messages floating around...
| Thank you for confirming what people here have already rehashed to death.
Always good to know youre on the case lol. |
| empirestate | 03-11-2018 12:50 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
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Originally Posted by slokor
(Post 906820)
Thank you for confirming what people here have already rehashed to death.
Always good to know youre on the case lol.
| My point is, they already started rolling this out. |
| slokor | 03-11-2018 01:45 PM |
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As I said been rehashed to death but always good to know you can spit out the information others have already established. Regurgitation at its best.
Ever the helpful and useful poster.
Thanks for everything Empirestate - You do provide us with hours of excruciating entertainment. |
| Hercules | 03-11-2018 03:05 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by nate
(Post 906796)
I'm a little surprised about who's been commenting on this thread. I would guess this could effect a lot of people and it's seems to only be the same 10 or so that are staying on top of this. Over the last couple years I've read a lot of threads and envisioned a lot of high vol. sellers on this forum.
I'm wondering why their not commenting (possibly didn't get the same emails maybe because of EIN) or they had already changed strategies and sell somewhere else? Or maybe just watching??? Or maybe they were only here for the conversation and talked a good game...
Seems to me a lot of the people who were here last year are MIA...
| You mean you are surprised that there's a possibility of sellers here without EIN#s on all of there accts? Amazing that you could see though all of this acct buying and advice about multiple venues and all....snore...next |
| stealthbiz | 03-11-2018 04:10 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Is this only for United States PayPal accounts and not other countries? |
| smartguy | 03-11-2018 05:21 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
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Originally Posted by stealthbiz
(Post 906867)
Is this only for United States PayPal accounts and not other countries?
| Yes. For now. I see their competitors like Skrill, Payonner asking for SSN for a very long time. I think they were breaking some laws. Just imagine... letting somebody send 20 000$ without asking any sort of identification. Will a BANK allow that? |
| smartguy | 03-11-2018 05:22 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
I mean ... allowing somebody to get 20 000 ... but they can get even more if payments are for friends, or they also stay below the 200 transactions... |
| suspendedfoe | 03-11-2018 07:35 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Everyone needs to calm down. What is this PayPal vs eBay? |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Sorry, without getting off the topic, but i was applying for spectrocoin prepaid card, even providing my ID. The agent said Visa banned all the coin related cards, there will be a delay to receive a card. Here's a link when i googled: https://coinvigilance.com/update-on-...-of-wavecrest/
I still think this is indirectly related to PP policy. I believe all factors; AML, KYC, monsters, Russian election case, etc, are related what is going on.
The agent told me new cards will be issued around April. I asked Agent if Visa is not phased out, what will be then? No answer at the moment.
There was already enforcement of photo IDs for the coin exchanges while PP is freer. You know PP is a competitor of coins, transactions are good for them with fiat money. I think such election issue hit it hardly :( Becuase they were allowing stealth, unlike exchanges. Now it seems like it will be regulated too. Then darknet will come to PP...
Regards. |
| yankee | 03-12-2018 10:24 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Paypal is an absolute PITA today. |
| donkeykong2012 | 03-12-2018 10:29 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
"We’re changing the balance functionality for your PayPal account depending on whether we have been able to verify identifying information that you provide to us."
There has been so much conflicting information on this thread regarding what "verification" will mean for US users.
So far I have read:
Add adding a Bank Account and verifying.
Providing an SSN
Providing an SSN/DOB that can be checked against Public records.
Providing ID
I am curious how PP USA plays this as no doubt there will be knock on effect in various ways. However all the speculation is not helping anyone.
This might be an "easy fix" for sellers - who knows. It MIGHT just be a case of a legal update.
It also occurred to me that Paypal might only apply this new verification requirement to certain accounts. ie: those they consider HIGH risk. It might not be a blanket policy across ALL accounts.
"If we have not verified your identifying information, a balance in your PayPal account can generally only be held in your PayPal account and transferred to a linked bank account or debit card."
Best keep such speculation to a minimum for the time being.
When US users suddenly find overnight they cannot send money/purchase items with balances easily without further "verification" there will be quite a few unhappy people on here. |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-12-2018 10:50 AM |
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Got the email today for a personal account, and it is all legit info with an SSN already on file. I say it'll get sent out to everyone, eventually.
I guess it takes a while to email everyone. |
| XTC4ME | 03-12-2018 11:25 AM |
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I'm slowly getting it on every single account from business accounts with linked bank and EIN to personal accounts with legit SSN. I think everyone will get the letter also. |
| empirestate | 03-12-2018 11:33 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
It would help if you buys screenshot what the letter looks like... |
| ebaystealth1974 | 03-12-2018 11:35 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Looks like the same one that's been posted. |
| donkeykong2012 | 03-12-2018 11:49 AM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Just received an email regarding Paypal changes to the UK UA in May 2018.
Had a quick look through, no serious changes that I can see.
My bet is most of the fraud and issues PP have is with US Accounts. |
| iceman420 | 03-12-2018 12:06 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
So glad I got outta the stealth game 6 months ago. I just popped back in to withdraw the loot I have tied up across my stealth accounts ..hope I dont have any withdrawal issues. |
| yankee | 03-12-2018 12:22 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by iceman420
(Post 907023)
So glad I got outta the stealth game 6 months ago. I just popped back in to withdraw the loot I have tied up across my stealth accounts ..hope I dont have any withdrawal issues.
| I am having them. Lets us know how it goes please. |
| Gladiator | 03-12-2018 01:05 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Can’t you guys just get EINs and this becomes a non-issue? |
| iceman420 | 03-12-2018 01:10 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 907028)
I am having them. Lets us know how it goes please.
| Whats going on with your accounts/withdrawls? some of mine recently became 'eligible for withdrawal' and I added a bank already, and I just transferred $200 to a bank, got hit with '2 hour delay' then I got an email stating transfer to bank 1 business day. Hopefully it goes through without incident |
| Matce | 03-12-2018 01:15 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gladiator
(Post 907041)
Can’t you guys just get EINs and this becomes a non-issue?
| exactly.
not sure why everyone is freaking out so hard lol |
| slokor | 03-12-2018 01:22 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gladiator
(Post 907041)
Can’t you guys just get EINs and this becomes a non-issue?
| No need to get Eins realy as the issue remains the same.
If youre in the US and can get an EIN then you can just as easily have a bank account attached and withdraw your funds to it.
If youre NOT in the US then you cannot get an EIN and you cannot get a bank account - which basically negates your ability to use a US based stealth account.
As far as I can see that is the main impact - on non US users. |
| yankee | 03-12-2018 01:23 PM |
Re: PayPal TOS Update - Transfers for verified people only!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gladiator
(Post 907041)
Can’t you guys just get EINs and this becomes a non-issue?
| It is really hard to say yet.
Also, most of the members on this site dont want to add anything or pay any taxes. |
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