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Avoiding a limitation - Is there a pattern?
 

I've wondered this for a while. Is there any pattern to when you can expect a limitation? Does it happen for instance more often on a weekday or weekend? Is there a particular time of the day less or more likely to be limited? Morning, noon, evening, dead of night? For instance, Paypal customer service isn't 24/7. So is there always someone there in their tech department watching or do they go home and let the computer take over? Is it always just the computer watching, do they "double up" during business hours, OR do they take the auto-pilot off and run the show with humans during that time? If so, that might mean that you're more likely to slip by as humans can't handle everything at once. Or perhaps the middle of the night would be the right time? Who knows?

If in fact there is a pattern to limitations and we can figure out what kind of pattern, maybe we can help each other to avoid a limitation when all we're trying to do is conduct business.

So what has been your experience?

Recently, when All My paypal accounts were limited it was around 4 pm ebay time on separate days. HMMMM

I wonder if that is when the fraud detection software gets run, or when the paypal security nazis do that fun task right before going home to their parent's basements.

Maybe the trick is when you get money in, make sure to get it out by buying something or transferring it to another account before 4 in the afternoon.

make sure not to do big transactions under a personal account as well and another thing i found out as well if you open a paypal account for months and dont use it then begin to use it no matter how many tranaction is did they never limited it and it was un verified

No patterns that I know. It's all automated based on your transactions. If you have an account manager that could call for a biased opinion... I know my Paypal manager calls me every once in awhile depending on any changes to my account.

Just don't worry about it too much, there's not much you can do other then being legit, and scam free.

Account manager?

Paypal Manager?

What are they and what do they do?

hmm I got mine limited after getting 3 claims within a month. They locked my $1500 and now I have to wait 180 days to get it out. Crazy.. Now I use hubby's PayPal but I'm worried too... even after faxing over DL , ID and proof of shipment, they don't care and never respond. I would like to have back up and prefer to use other. I heard that BidPay is good... I use ⊗⊗⊗⊗ id and info for Ebay but not sure if Ebay info and Bidpay have to match.. Does anyone know?

I don't know really. After my account reached a certain daily limit (3k+ a day), this guy called me from Paypal letting me know he was my account manager and if I ever needed help with anything to call and he would try to help. He calls me every once in awhile when ever there are major changes to my account, just to confirm I made the changes or if there was a higher then usually refund rate or chargeback's. Whenever I call Paypal customer service I get forwarded to him and he helps me out.

eBay and bidpay don't work together, so it doesn't matter.

Sorry to hear about your $1500 StacyP mine was limited with $60, it was only a month old and I had no claims against me. Sure, I don't want to lose even $60, but until the PP limit gets lifted I can't use the linked EB account to list any new items.
Sure the ones I had up there are all selling and PP will gladly accept payment for them provided that I can't reach the winners before they send payment to PP.
Surprisingly since my account is currenlty "limited" to risky activity that would say to me that maybe I am up to something that I shouldn't. They limit me so I can't make money from "risky activity" but they are more than happy to accept money form this "risky activity" and let unknowing buyers throw there $$$ into a potential bottomless pit. I'm not only upset, but I feel for the buyers too

How to open an PP account using the same info as your ebay acount w/ simon gift card. If so, how can I add my bank acount to this bogus PP account. How can I transfer funds from unverified PP to verified PP account. I have an PP account that is in good condition and verified. But if I tried to create an eBay account using that PP account. I get suspended after an hour of listing

I did exactly that.
1) got myself an SGC
2) opened an EB account
3) when prompted through the reg process used that same SGC to open a PP acct
4) went back and selected SGC as payment of seller fees to EB with the PP acct created with that same card as secondary EB payment
5) added a bank acct with an entirely different name to the PP account to get "verified" *note PP only asked for the routing and acct #'s* they then made 2 very small deposits that I had to verify with PP to prove that I had access to the account. When I entered them in I was "verified"
I have not used the acct yet to send or receive payments other than to pay my seller fees with money from the newly added BA.

As with everything here though, what works today might not work tomorrow or what works for me might not work for everyone.

Paypal is not a long term solution anymore. Same as eBay. It's better to find a merchant account like, Modee, Chris Hanson and others use with eBay. Their accounts are lasting longer on eBay now because Paypal isn't there to link and shut them down.

What do you mean with an entirely different name? What happens if the name of the paypal account I am trying to open does not match the name of my real bank account that I will use to make withdraws? I am not doing anything illegal or funky, just wonder how much of my bank account information paypal can really have access to!

I think it depends greatly on the amount of money you leave in the account. Sure there are people with $1500 balance accounts getting locked up, but many accounts get locked because you withdraw too often.

One of my accounts was locked after I withdrew every day about $100 for 2 months. Another account where I withdraw $500-$600 every week for over 2 months is still going strong. I leave around $250-$300 in it at all times.

the systems too complicated to know for sure. theres toooo many factors that are involved.

I know someone from Japan who sold 2000+ items through eBay and got paid through PayPal for all transactions without problems. All items are in the $50 range, so he got around $100,000 through PayPal without being limited even once.

Dont believe that. Unless it was like 4 years ago

Nope, in fact he opened his account in November 2006, so it's not even yet a year old.

I have accepted around 5K through my paypal account without being limited. My transactions varied from $40-$800. I stopped using it though since im using google checkout now.

Well, the guy I mentioned above claims his "secret" is to leave some funds in the PayPal account and not withdraw everything down to the last penny every day. I can confirm from my own experience that the accounts where I leave a few hundred $'s in at all times have never been limited and one of the ones where I always withdraw everything got limited last week, so maybe there's some truth in that.

very interesting stuff, here.

Well if someone transfers every penny each day out of PayPal, this does look suspicious. If you are going to do that everyday, why not just get a merchant account or other payment methods like Google checkout. I have personally taken in well over 5000+ from Paypal without any limitations. Account is about 5 years old.

I think this is explaining much of the reason Paypal kicked me to the curb. Technically I didn't do anything wrong, but they gave me that BS "suspicious behavior" spiel.. Generally I would transer every cent to my bank account as soon as it appeared in Paypal. To be fair, though, how can Paypal fault anyone for doing this with the kind of bad reputation their company has?

I just wanted to add that I pull the money out every 2 weeks not daily like some people. Taking the money out daily could be seen as your trying to take the money out to scam others. Just my opinion..

Yeah I guess that makes sense, but on the other hand if you don't take it out as frequently that will also mean you are having to do a very large single withdrawal that could also be viewed as suspicious. It's like if you make a lot of money, you just can't win either way. :(

If you leave too much in it and you get suspended for another reason, also remember you lose that. For me, I leave around $200-$300 in an account at all times and withdraw about $500 a week. So far so good..

yeah but IMjustme, your in Japan right? And your using Japan/China Paypal???

I do the same as so as the money shows in my PP account I would transfer it out.It doesnt say that we cant in the terms and conditions so why not.

Yeah, though the PayPal representatives can't seem to speak/read Japanese, I have to assume that I'm using the "US version" like everyone else.

MODEE... we MISS YOU! I miss the back and forth + the restrictions + all--it was Comical... :))

At last I'm free to quote the post directly above mine! How devious MWAHAHA

Well the restrictions no, but you are missed and you had super advice.

paypal limited
 

Recently my account was limited probably due to recent High volume. Everything is legitimate, personal info, etc..

Only thing is that they want suppliers info. Do they really check?

I have friends that work at retail businesses. Some just for the holidays. I came up with a brainstorming idea that I can buy items from them using their employee discounts plus store sales. Meaning I tell them what I want, calculate the cost minus discounts, post on ebay and make 50-100 an item.

I do have sales receipts for the transaction and since it is legitimate I am tempted to fax over the receipts as "supplier" information.

Problem is will they contact the stores and tell them. I do not want anyone fired or in trouble for this.

I guess my question is do you think they check?

Does my business practice and the way I get the items for sale warrant paypal to close my account?

^ yep.
paypal probably has a million people at any time that they're checking accounts for, if you are a stupid paypal employee with no high school diploma that can barely read english, i think all they will look at is if you send some information in.
i faxed (photoshopped) supplier info written in RUSSIAN (i put names of the products they wanted in english though) lol. and they unsuspended the account................................. figures eh...

so what you should do, is scan the receipts to make your job easier, but change the phone number, maybe even get one from tossabledigits in case they do call, and you can act like the supplier.

The supplier info is easy as are utility bills. It when they start asking for social security and a million other things that I just walk away. I had one they wanted about 8 different things! It wasn't worth my time for the few dollars in there.

Cool, any idea why they even ask for supplier info if they don't even bother to check?

easy, to get your supplier connect so they can sell on Ebay

Can anyone supply me with a valid supplier info? I'll pay for it.

just make some up..they can't check, especially if its in another country.
get a number in that country that forwards to your cell so you can act as the supplier in case they call. so ud be safe.