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Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
 

Big money dude

Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
 

If you cover below points have good chance to win:

1) You said watches are authentic, so you must be having your purchase slip and all.
2) If these are authentic, probably can match by code/serial from inside. Ask him to provide or get confirmation letter from supplier.
3) You also deliver him samples, so they must be matching with your delivery.

And for all above preparetion you need lawyer support. Also get a proper letter from your partner as using his pp on his behalf, ( kind of power of attoney ) .

But i also assume, a good businessman won't backfire such amount ( on legal ground) until pissed on really some issue.

Good luck :)

Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
 

why would some established US wholesaler/distributor/reseller order 500 BRANDED (Michael Kors) watches from someone in UK he does not know who ordered from CANADA,unless the prices are too good to be true?
And after filing dispute with his cc issuer (not Paypal),he wants more -Seiko watches.!
If these are genuine Michael Kors/Seiko watches,the manufacturers must have records whom they sell to and that buyer must have an account with them.

Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
 

I bet you he is not going to get a letter from his Canadian supplier that these 500 Michael Kors watches come from Michael Kors!!!

Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
 

Man, it seems like you sold a junk product and did not expect any blowback. 3.7% returns means really bad items.

I feel sorry for you but in all honesty, your buyer seems to have a valid complaint. I know if I purchased a product and was getting 3.7% returns, I would be contacting my financial institute to get my losses and reputation back.

Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
 

Not sure what exactly, but you better fix it because for $62k, PayPal is likely to turn this debt over to their legal recovery if not resolved in your favor.

Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
 

Exactly, for 62k in debt this is going to court 100%. They have your real info and even if it was a stealth account(Its not), its not hard to track down bank info etc...

You better get this figured out real quick, because if they are ⊗⊗⊗⊗ and 62k worth, you will be looking at criminal charges if this goes to court.

I just want to add, the truth has come out, you were selling false trash. Why do you come in here and lie acting like you sold legit goods?

At least be honest, that is something I could respect, I can't respect selling false goods AND you can't even admit it. Pathetic. I hope they throw the book at you and your partner.

Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
 

He is in UK,he is using a US friend 's paypal account to accept payments.
His friend is not going to pay,he will walk away but get letters and phone calls from collection agencies and his credit rating would be dinged.
For that kind of money,would Paypal take the paypal account owner to court first?

Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
 

UK is even worse. People in UK go to prison for ⊗⊗⊗⊗ goods. I remember a guy not too long ago on here, did some pretty serious time in jail.

Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
 

For 62k PayPal will launch a full investigation. This will be in court, the full truth will eventually come out.

That is why it would be in OPs best interest to resolve this quickly, no investigation that way. I guess he can't afford it though. Being in the UK, he is actually more exposed. They have much harsher laws on ⊗⊗⊗⊗ goods. A guy from this forum did serious time over ⊗⊗⊗⊗ Apple chargers. the thread is still here somewhere. He was UK located.

Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
 

Since his buyer is reselling these watches,if they are counterfeit,wont the investigation get him involved as well?
maybe OP can ask him to withdraw the chargeback and the 2 parties settle outside Paypal

Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
 

If there’s a true of this story PayPal will open investigation and reach to the law enforcement obviously the owner of the PayPal or who ever their information attached to that PayPal account they will go to court

Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
 

Hey phazorz, check your DM's when you can mate. Thanks.

Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
 

Absolutely agree with this.

One of my biggest doubts I had signing up to this forum was that it was full of fraudsters. Fairly sure we have lots of people reading this forum but not signing up for that reason.

Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
 

Could not agree more with you guys. Helping crooks actively hurts people that run stealth for legitimate reasons(eBay being a dick).

Anyway nobody can help this guy unless they send him 62k. He is screwed.

Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
 

Well,no one wants to go to jail.
I still think this buyer is reselling counterfeit watches to others who sell on WMT and other venues,he sure does not want to be investigated.
if what OP is telling us,after filing chargback of 62K ,which involves 500 michael Kors watches,he inquired a large order of Cassio watches!!!!!!
HAVE the guy whose Paypal account is hit,he is in USA,call him and ask him to with draw the chargeback and settle outside Paypal.
(The buyer is in USA,he is filing chargeback because he cant sell them,he is in trouble)

Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
 

fine with me,unless you intend to cough up $62k as a good samaritan,
or is this just more gibberish?

Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
 

Get a lawyer.

Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
 

I do recall a case awhile back out of Florida, it was a civil suit brought from a collection agency assigned by PayPal to recover funds owed, and it was a lot less than $62k.

There tends to be a possibility if the amounts are large enough they won't charge off the debt and reassign, it might be dealt with by their in-house legal team.

The OP is best advised to consult with either a Consumer or Business attorney asap.

Re: I owe PayPal $62,000 because of a scammer, please help!
 

Scammer gets scammed