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Wesker 12-28-2019 04:47 PM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smith5394 (Post 1057871)
Does anyone have a solution to this problem?

Discord Server link: https://discord.gg/QaBrjsX

Here you'll see current status on where we are with this.

rsot 12-28-2019 08:34 PM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smith5394 (Post 1057864)
I also had paypal take all my money in the account. How can I get my money back?

Welcome to the forum - all the best as you master stealth :thumb:

himaster 01-03-2020 10:34 PM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
leaked news: They will return your money after April if there is no issue with tax and law

vinijchai 01-04-2020 04:37 AM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by himaster (Post 1059146)
leaked news: They will return your money after April if there is no issue with tax and law

Where did you get this source from?

Wesker 01-04-2020 08:42 AM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by himaster (Post 1059146)
leaked news: They will return your money after April if there is no issue with tax and law

Provide more information.

smith5394 01-04-2020 08:45 AM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by himaster (Post 1059146)
leaked news: They will return your money after April if there is no issue with tax and law


Where did you get this source? Can you tell us?

rsot 01-04-2020 09:43 AM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
I couldn't find much to support that statement

himaster 01-04-2020 11:28 PM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
I can't tell you guys for now

This is important too: Is there anyone have this charge back after Dec 31st?

The first news I received was they only do this on fiscal year of 2019. If nobody is experiencing this issue on 2020 or after Quarter 1 of 2020, then the news is reliable

daniel888 01-05-2020 07:33 PM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Hi, I have the same situation with you , paypal just withdraw my money $1400 and $350 from my two account , reason is PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation , I have many account has been lock since last years and after 180 I can withdraw it with no problem , I just call the customer service that they told me I cant get the money back , I ask them how did I cause you damages , they answer me not sure but this is the rule I cant change anything

Have you get your money back ? if so , how did you get it please share with me , thank you

daniel888 01-05-2020 07:49 PM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Messy52312 (Post 1040903)
Hello everyone I am new to this forum and I am going to explain what happened to me because this new AUP fine **** is real and no one here is lying

I had 1 PayPal with 13,000 dollars in it and PayPal wiped the balance on the 178th day before I could withdraw the money. I also had a 2 accounts with 61,000 dollars and PayPal wiped the money completely on the 178th day. Both accounts say "Payment to PayPal acceptable use policy damages" I called papal and they said i basically need to sue them! I have also hired a lawyer to write a demand letter from PayPal which got me no where. All PayPal did was respond with a reply back to my lawyers email saying that we need to send them a subpoena in order to request info about an account. I have sent PayPal multiple letters through the better business bureau and all I got was a response saying that I violated PayPal acceptable use policy and that they can take up to 2500 damages. They also said the reason they took the money was because i was selling "fortnite video game accounts" They are not being clear at all because currently they have tooken a grand total of 74,000 dollars from me in acceptable use policy damages. I am currently in the process of calling my local police and filing a fraud report against PayPal. I am also in talks with lawyer and currently setting up a retainer with lawyer to sue them.

Now to explain further i thought I was a one in a lifetime case for this and I was convinced the company Epic Games who makes fortnite contacted paypal about my business and they were the ones who issued a fine to me. But it turns out this is just PayPal doing it by themselves

I have contacted Epic Games and they said they have no problem with my business at all and did not do any of this.

The worse part about this is I have more money in PayPal and I have no clue if there going to wipe me clean.

I also have another friend rn who was selling the same products as me and we are literally neighbors and PayPal took 20,000 dollars from him for acceptable use policy violations

If your PayPal has a high risk limitation they will not wipe the money because my high risk one was able to withdraw with no issues right after I was issued a fine

THIS **** IS CRAZY BEWARE DO NOT GET AN ACCEPTABLE USE POLICY VIOLATION ON PAYPAL ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY ARE WIPING THE ACCOUNTS CLEAN. THIS 2500 DOLLAR FINE POLICY HAS BEEN ON PAYPALS SITE FOR YEARS BUT THEY ARE FED UP AND ARE FINALLY IN FORCING IT


Have you got your money back by the end ?? I am having the same situation , I dont know what to do !!

lymbo70 01-06-2020 05:47 AM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Curious, what kind of goods were you selling....this is scary


Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel888 (Post 1059550)
Hi, I have the same situation with you , paypal just withdraw my money $1400 and $350 from my two account , reason is PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation , I have many account has been lock since last years and after 180 I can withdraw it with no problem , I just call the customer service that they told me I cant get the money back , I ask them how did I cause you damages , they answer me not sure but this is the rule I cant change anything

Have you get your money back ? if so , how did you get it please share with me , thank you


rsot 01-06-2020 05:56 AM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel888 (Post 1059550)
Hi, I have the same situation with you , paypal just withdraw my money $1400 and $350 from my two account , reason is PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation , I have many account has been lock since last years and after 180 I can withdraw it with no problem , I just call the customer service that they told me I cant get the money back , I ask them how did I cause you damages , they answer me not sure but this is the rule I cant change anything

Have you get your money back ? if so , how did you get it please share with me , thank you

Welcome to the forum - all the best as you master stealth :thumb:

You have many accounts locked? What category were your sales?

Wesker 01-06-2020 09:41 AM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lymbo70 (Post 1059684)
Curious, what kind of goods were you selling....this is scary

It's random items here, not a specific industry being targeted. Some tangible, some intangible, some services.

Wesker 01-06-2020 01:28 PM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1059773)
Read Paypal policy,it will tell you-narcotics,sterioid,cigarette,firearms,copyright,tr ademark,weapons,getrich quick scheme,money order,travellor checks,lottery contracts etc et

Basically 1000+ different things PayPal won't like. Best of luck reading that and guessing if your items are or aren't against their AUP policy.

XPinksDude826 01-06-2020 03:36 PM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daniel888 (Post 1059550)
Hi, I have the same situation with you , paypal just withdraw my money $1400 and $350 from my two account , reason is PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation , I have many account has been lock since last years and after 180 I can withdraw it with no problem , I just call the customer service that they told me I cant get the money back , I ask them how did I cause you damages , they answer me not sure but this is the rule I cant change anything

Have you get your money back ? if so , how did you get it please share with me , thank you

What day exactly did they take the money from you. Was it in 2019 or 2020?

lymbo70 01-06-2020 10:42 PM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
I think OP said it was somewhere in 2019.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Messy52312 (Post 1059855)
What day exactly did they take the money from you. Was it in 2019 or 2020?


Mohmmad2122 01-07-2020 07:43 PM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
paypal took from me 10K I am poor and my mother need treatments please guys help me

kingash313 01-08-2020 05:24 AM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
What was the limitation message you received from Paypal when it first got limited? Please send a screenshot(cross any personel information).

rsot 01-08-2020 06:03 AM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohmmad2122 (Post 1060134)
paypal took from me 10K I am poor and my mother need treatments please guys help me

tinsoldier called you out - threads don't add up - be clear, good luck

daniel888 01-08-2020 11:08 AM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
I am selling the tangible product , people place order and I shiped them ,
before was no problem , I have been doing this - lock and after 180 days no problem with the money withdraw . but this time , two account's money take away , I still have more than 10 account in the back ...

eniolaamoda 01-08-2020 03:09 PM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesker (Post 1059821)
Basically 1000+ different things PayPal won't like. Best of luck reading that and guessing if your items are or aren't against their AUP policy.

hello wesker i've been following your post. and i'm very much encouranged and inspired by you.

i also had $1778 and i was limited for 180days, on the 180days when i loged in i met $0.

i'm yet to see anypne this happened to in 2020 or 2018.

i think this only affected people whose funds were due during december 2019.

eniolaamoda 01-09-2020 09:43 AM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1060346)
Your money is gone unless you take legal action.

in as much as i'd love to take legal actions, i've got no more money to even hire a competent lawyer. besides i'm waiting to see who has followed that route and how they did it just so i do not make a mistake.

i dont stay in the US, i reside in the UAE. i'm a common man and not as rich as the rest of the commenters above. all i got is the $1778 whgich paypal stole.

unlike the others above i do not sell any ite, i work as a write on fiverr and fiverr pays me into paypal and that has always been where all my inflow came from.

i've never bought an item with my paypal account or even sold an item.

all inflow were from fiverr and fiverr is a partner of paypal.

Josephsm823 01-20-2020 05:43 PM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
has anyone expericed this in january?

XPinksDude826 01-26-2020 01:47 PM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Hello I just called paypal about 1 of my accounts and how it was the 180th day and my funds were suppose to be released. However I was wrong i actually have the funds released on the 29th of this month which is 3 days.

Besides that on the phone the customer services representative warned me about how people violated the acceptable use policy are being fined 2500 dollars.

She also told me that they are now being instructed to say this to people who have accounts that violated the AUP.

So this means the employees are now being instructed to warn people ahead of time before the 180 days ends that your money can be taken from you in fines.


However my money is released in 3 days and is still there. The money should not be taken as we are in 2020 and no one has been fined in 2020 and fines only happen near the end of the year.

I will update you guys in 3 days if I get fined or not

raseiro 01-28-2020 04:03 AM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Ashley, so paypal stole my money and I am in MA as well. Would be happy to share legal costs, or perhaps you could give me the name of your lawyer? I had a legit personal account, no money laundering or third world acct. I am stunned. Thank you. Oliver

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashley1010 (Post 1055621)
Just wanted to give an update on my case I showed above. I spoke with my lawyer who is very connected- she is one of the best here in Mass. I know everyone is in different places but she informed me my demand letter and case we are going to send and fight for will be in regards to this law:

“The Massachusetts Consumer Protection Law
Massachusetts has a statute that specifically enables the Attorney General and consumers to take legal action against unfair or deceptive conduct in the marketplace, called Massachusetts Consumer Protection law, Massachusetts General Laws Chapter 93A.


What violates the Consumer Protection Law?
Many consumers are unaware of the rights they are entitled to under the Massachusetts Consumer Protection law, Massachusetts General Laws Chapter 93A. Likewise, many merchants may not fully understand their responsibilities under this law.

The law does not define any specific business actions that violate the law; rather it states that “unfair or deceptive practices” are illegal. Although each case is judged on its own merits, some examples of unfair or deceptive practices that might fall under Chapter 93A would be when:

A business fails to tell you relevant information regarding your product or service or misleads you in any way.“

She is in the process of writing up a demand letter and proceeding with this violation that they mislead me to believe I would get my money after 180 days and then withdrawing a week before was deceptive and in MA against this law.

Will send another update when I get one. In the meantime I would check and see if your state has any laws regarding this and it can’t hurt to send a demand letter to try and get some answers since I still have yet to receive any reply from any of their departments.


raseiro 01-28-2020 05:27 AM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Hi guys, logged on to my PP account today as the 180 days of suspension has been up, low and belold these crooks stole the $2804 that was the balance. And this just a few days before the 180 days! And no notice whatsoever!! This is truely unbelievable, I cannot understand how they can pull this ****, it is totally illegal! I will be joining the discord group, filing a demand letter, etc. They will not get away with this ****! My account was closed without any reason, I sold on ebay, no narcotics, scams, etc, it was a legit account.

January 23, 2020
PayPal
-negative $2,804.74
Transfer
There is an open dispute associated with this transaction. Visit the Resolution Center to view status.

Paid with
PayPal Cash Plus balance

Transaction ID
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Seller info
PayPal

Note
$2,804.74 USD;PayPal Posting Date:Jan 22, 2020;Payment to:Paypal;PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation

rsot 01-28-2020 07:21 AM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
What's this message about: "Transfer
There is an open dispute associated with this transaction. Visit the Resolution Center to view status."

Checked it out?

raseiro 01-28-2020 09:19 AM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Military collectibles, nothing that couldnt be sold on ebay. was really careful not to list anything controvertial. its not the point anyway. what they are doing is illegal.

"there is an open dispute associated with this transaction": same BS message as when they closed my account, nothing new.

Mohmmad2122 01-28-2020 05:17 PM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raseiro (Post 1065099)
Military collectibles, nothing that couldnt be sold on ebay. was really careful not to list anything controvertial. its not the point anyway. what they are doing is illegal.

"there is an open dispute associated with this transaction": same BS message as when they closed my account, nothing new.



what you mean ?

animekings99 01-28-2020 07:19 PM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
I have had a 180 day lock but not a lock like that I was able to get my money these ****ers locked 600.00 bucks paypal and ebay look at us like were bad but they r the ones stealing money I really wonder how much locked money they have there and who in the hell is keeping all that money I feel really bad when I read posts like this

raseiro 01-29-2020 04:28 AM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Again I sold nothing that wasn't kosher to sell on ebay. At any rate they have no right to steal people's money! They are not the IRS!

I have a zero balance now because these crooks stole my balance! And they waited just a few days before the 180 days. Truely disgusting.

I will fight back. Demand/subpoena letter, write to MA Atty General, class action suit. If I make enough noise they have to reconsider.

himaster 01-29-2020 10:42 PM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1065395)
what is your PAYPAL balance now?
Is it negative 2804.74?
if it is negative,then you must have no money in your account ,so now it turns negative when Paypal debits 2804.74 .
Did you get an email asking you to bring the account to neutral?
Whatever military collectible you sold may be fine with EbaY but not fine with Paypal.
What exactly is the item and where is the buyer?

LOL
Just ignore the "negative" word. He copied those text from Transaction details page, which means The text "negative" stands for "-" (subtract).
That means the transaction is taking 2804.74 USD away. subtract! subtract! subtract! Not Negative balance!

afincho 01-30-2020 10:57 AM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
I would ring them and know at the same time that when they decide it's extremely challenging to flip it to your favor. Especially when your account is flagged already

secret storm 02-02-2020 09:25 AM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by himaster (Post 1059367)

This is important too: Is there anyone have this charge back after Dec 31st?

The first news I received was they only do this on fiscal year of 2019. If nobody is experiencing this issue on 2020 or after Quarter 1 of 2020, then the news is reliable

Quote:

Originally Posted by eniolaamoda (Post 1060288)
i also had $1778 and i was limited for 180days, on the 180days when i loged in i met $0.

i'm yet to see anypne this happened to in 2020 or 2018.

i think this only affected people whose funds were due during december 2019.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josephsm823 (Post 1063246)
has anyone expericed this in january?


Those are questions I would also like to hear responses to

From the sources I've been talking to it was near the end of 2019 when PayPal was siphoning all the money in some limited PayPal account's and leaving the account with a 0.00 balance.

I also heard that it was UK PayPal accounts that were getting hit the hardest with ''PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy Violation'' where they take all your money from your limited PayPal account along with other Europe countries getting that.

It only makes since because here in the U.S we can not only take them to court but counter sue them for more money than what was originally taken.

I remember when PayPal settled a class action lawsuit back in 2016 for doing improper account holds they had to shell out $440.00 USD extra to each account that qualified for that and that was just for limiting accounts for no reason and paying that amount for that.

PayPal has to realize that this damages policy I'm going to take all your money is way, way worse.

It will be very interesting to see if they keep doing it because it's immoral and unethical.

prodigyace 02-02-2020 09:43 AM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by secret storm (Post 1066355)
Those are questions I would also like to hear responses to

From the sources I've been talking to it was near the end of 2019 when PayPal was siphoning all the money in some limited PayPal account's and leaving the account with a 0.00 balance.

I also heard that it was UK PayPal accounts that were getting hit the hardest with ''PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy Violation'' where they take all your money from your limited PayPal account along with other Europe countries getting that.

It only makes since because here in the U.S we can not only take them to court but counter sue them for more money than what was originally taken.

I remember when PayPal settled a class action lawsuit back in 2016 for doing improper account holds they had to shell out $440.00 USD extra to each account that qualified for that and that was just for limiting accounts for no reason and paying that amount for that.

PayPal has to realize that this damages policy I'm going to take all your money is way, way worse.

It will be very interesting to see if they keep doing it because it's immoral and unethical.

I can see this possibly turning into a major crap storm for them if enough people and lawyers get involved, and this blows up in the media.

PayPal won't be so "trusted" by sellers in the public eye, giving another company enough reason to compete.

This needs to get big, though.

Mohmmad2122 02-02-2020 03:25 PM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Paypal is now up to a point that cannot be reversed. We can now sue them

raseiro 02-02-2020 09:00 PM

Re: PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by secret storm (Post 1066355)
It will be very interesting to see if they keep doing it because it's immoral and unethical.

Immoral or unethical? You're talking about a corporation here. CEOs would sell their mother into slavery for a few bucks. Also in the US and much of the world Multinationals have gotten huge, have corrupted the system and rigged it in their favor. Paypal was a big donor to trump. Just follow the money trail:


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