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I had a stealth account permanently limited over 180 days ago. When I went to withdraw the funds to my bank, I see that they transferred all of my funds to themselves and this was in the notes for the transaction:

"Payment to: Paypal; PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation."

I had zero chargebacks and they didn't claim what the so-called "damages" were, they just stole my balance a week before my 180 days was up, and I received no notification.

Before I call them, for whatever good that will do, I'm asking if anyone here has any experience with this. I Googled the exact sentence "PayPal's damages caused by Acceptable Use Policy violation" and couldn't find it, so is this new or was it just for me special? I assumed it would have happened to a lot of other folks and someone here would be mentioning it...
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I saw a post like that on reddit or somewhere, why did they limited your account? and how much was the balance in account? I think they might have linked some other account which may have negative balance but anyway you cant get it back since it stealth account.
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I guess they know they can get away with it. I'm assuming you can't add a bank account or provide ID or you'd have already done this.

I suspect that the amount of phake accounts, buyers and sellers, on ebay and Amazon is far greater than we imagine and this is there (new) way of dealing with it. Probably 80% of their headaches are caused by 1% of rogue accounts.

It's clear that getting money out ASAP, however small the amounts, is more important than ever.
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I saw a post like that on reddit or somewhere, why did they limited your account? and how much was the balance in account? I think they might have linked some other account which may have negative balance but anyway you cant get it back since it stealth account.
This was one of those hard limitations that came with no warning, no previous request for documentation, etc....And I've never had any other account that went negative or where I owed them money or anything.
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I'm assuming you can't add a bank account or provide ID or you'd have already done this.

It's clear that getting money out ASAP, however small the amounts, is more important than ever.
I already had a bank account added......and yes, I think you are right, and I need to start withdrawing everything as soon as I can.....
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PAYPAL could have linked your account with another account which owed PAYPAL money,is there anyone in your family say your spouse or ex spouse had an account with Paypal?
where does your money come from?
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PAYPAL could have linked your account with another account which owed PAYPAL money,is there anyone in your family say your spouse or ex spouse had an account with Paypal?
where does your money come from?
see what I mean? You sound like a MACHINE a computer or a stooge.
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More important than ever to leave a tiny balance to cover any returns but otherwise to withdraw every single penny / cent.

Paypal could do what they did to you to everyone and get away with it. We are using it using false details after all ...
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see what I mean? You sound like a MACHINE a computer or a stooge.
I wish I were a machine,I would make more money.
but thanks for the compliment,nevertheless
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I'm confused, either the situation I described is common, in which case I'd think someone else would have experienced it and could comment, or it is new and unheard of, in which case people here should be extremely alarmed. I keep checking this thread for anyone with knowledge or experience to chime in like a kid running downstairs on Christmas morning looking for presents.
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Ring them, then you'll have your answer.
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I have been doing stealth on high risk items (electronics) for many years and have been limited many many times and have never seen them do this.

Always after 180 days they release the balance and then add savings account or debit card and withdraw it.
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were you selling copyright items?
https://gbatemp.net/threads/cease-an...paypal.339398/
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Under the Acceptable Use Policy, PayPal may not be used to send or receive
payments for items that infringe or violate any copyright, trademark, right
of publicity or privacy, or any other proprietary right under the laws of
any jurisdiction. This includes transactions for devices that allow
domestic video game consoles to play back-up or import versions of games,
such as mod chips, game enhancers, boot disks and methods that allow
multiple digital television receivers to access subscription television
services.

The complete Acceptable Use Policy can be found at the following URL:
https://cms.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/?....locale.x=en_US

To learn more about the Acceptable Use Policy, please refer to our Help
Center page here:
https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/helpweb?cmd=_help

We thank you in advance for your cooperation. If you have any
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Ring them, then you'll have your answer.
I called them, and after putting me on hold for a few minutes, she came back and said to check the inbox messages of my account, and there would be the address to have my lawyer do a civil subpoena for any records concerning my PP account, and basically just saying, "Get a lawyer and sue us if you want your money."

In response to other replies here, no, I was not selling any copyrighted stuff or anything like that, and yeah, in the past I have always waited the 180 days and withdrawn the funds.
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Paypal is starting to crack down hardcore it seems. I'm seeing multiple reports of people not getting their money back, paypal wanting IDs that don't exist, and finally this new situation of just staight up stealing the money.

I got 3.5k that should be unlocked in a couple of weeks. I sure hope I can get my money.

The best thing is to only ever leave enough in PayPal to cover some returns.

I will report back what happens with my money. 3.5k I will get a lawyer if needed. Legit goods sold with tracking, on a stealth account.
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https://i.imgur.com/bOpJZKQ.png

I just checked and my money is all still there. I should be able to get my money on the 17th. I will report back then. And make a thread as well just to confirm people can still get money after 180 days. My account still has a valid bank, so that should not be an issue.
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I called them, and after putting me on hold for a few minutes, she came back and said to check the inbox messages of my account, and there would be the address to have my lawyer do a civil subpoena for any records concerning my PP account, and basically just saying, "Get a lawyer and sue us if you want your money."

In response to other replies here, no, I was not selling any copyrighted stuff or anything like that, and yeah, in the past I have always waited the 180 days and withdrawn the funds.
At least you have your answer. Good Luck with your legal action, I hope it work out well for you.
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At least you have your answer. Good Luck with your legal action, I hope it work out well for you.
I doubt he has enough money at stake to proceed with any legal action.

Also, I really doubt he didn't have a negative PayPal balance or something else we don't know about. Paypal must have had some damages to take his money...
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I doubt he has enough money at stake to proceed with any legal action.

Also, I really doubt he didn't have a negative PayPal balance or something else we don't know about. Paypal must have had some damages to take his money...
I know.......
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I doubt he has enough money at stake to proceed with any legal action.

Also, I really doubt he didn't have a negative PayPal balance or something else we don't know about. Paypal must have had some damages to take his money...
I definitely don't have enough money at stake to hire an attorney, but I am proceeding with arbitration and then I have the option of small claims court, so if they don't send a lawyer to my local courthouse, I would win by default.

And I absolutely did not have a negative balance or in any way owe PP money. Until now, I have always waited until the 180 days was up to withdraw funds. Every time. A few times they even sent me an e-mail early saying that my funds were available to withdraw....before the 180 days.

If I had actually caused them damages and/or owed them money, what they have done would make sense and not be so alarming to me, although I can understand you thinking that there must be more to the story that I'm not sharing, because otherwise it just doesn't make sense.......
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I definitely don't have enough money at stake to hire an attorney, but I am proceeding with arbitration and then I have the option of small claims court, so if they don't send a lawyer to my local courthouse, I would win by default.

And I absolutely did not have a negative balance or in any way owe PP money. Until now, I have always waited until the 180 days was up to withdraw funds. Every time. A few times they even sent me an e-mail early saying that my funds were available to withdraw....before the 180 days.

If I had actually caused them damages and/or owed them money, what they have done would make sense and not be so alarming to me, although I can understand you thinking that there must be more to the story that I'm not sharing, because otherwise it just doesn't make sense.......
Sorry for doubting you, I just have never heard of this happening. It seems very strange as Paypal is breaking the law to just take money from an account without a valid reason even if the account is stealth.

Please report back what you find out. I will report if I can get my money out when my 180 days ends.
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