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| fbueller | 03-29-2024 02:54 AM |
PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
I was banned 12 years ago on PP via an Ebay ban. Recently (after MP) I made a new eBay with all original info and it's working fine. Now that they're separated, I guess they don't share info anymore?
Wondering at this point if I can just make a new PayPal with my real info again. New computer, new email, new address, new bank account. Same phone # OK? I don't think they had my social back then, but obviously that would be the same if so. |
| agent006140 | 03-29-2024 06:27 AM |
Paypal never remove any account,banned or closed or active,the bank account you linked to the PAYPAL account will stay Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1238403)
you can use the same info , 12 years is a long time , back in the day there was barely any verification so that it is unlikely paypal would bother here , you just make sure you have different email , phone and financial details as the old ones can not be used anymore
| Paypal would want his SSN , Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 1238394)
you cant use the old info on pp - that being said, with eb using MP, why do you see the need for a new pp? just wondering
| You can make paymennt on Ebay using Paypal.
You can use it to accept payment if you have your own website or want t o deal outside Ebay.
Or use it to send and receive money.
with overseas transactions,it is cheaper than bank wiretransfer
It will ban you . |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by fbueller
(Post 1238353)
I was banned 12 years ago on PP via an Ebay ban. Recently (after MP) I made a new eBay with all original info and it's working fine. Now that they're separated, I guess they don't share info anymore?
Wondering at this point if I can just make a new PayPal with my real info again. New computer, new email, new address, new bank account. Same phone # OK? I don't think they had my social back then, but obviously that would be the same if so.
| you cant use the old info on pp - that being said, with eb using MP, why do you see the need for a new pp? just wondering |
| murdered_by_ebay | 03-29-2024 10:05 AM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
you can use the same info , 12 years is a long time , back in the day there was barely any verification so that it is unlikely paypal would bother here , you just make sure you have different email , phone and financial details as the old ones can not be used anymore |
| fbueller | 03-29-2024 12:32 PM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Yeah - just to clarify, I don't want the PP to use with eBay. I wouldn't link them. I'm doing fine with MP there, this is for other transactions on PP outside of eBay.
I would use a new phone, IP, computer (thank god, not the same one from 12 years ago LOL), address, email, and bank details. But yeah - the SSN is where I'm worried, or some sort of link to Venmo or eBay that I'm not doing but they use to verify on the back end or something. Or if my name and SSN is already in their system from years ago (I don't remember if I gave SSN back then or not). |
| degsey69 | 03-29-2024 01:05 PM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
I have had no problem creating a new PayPal account, just different email, address and ip address. |
| fbueller | 03-29-2024 05:58 PM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by degsey69
(Post 1238422)
I have had no problem creating a new PayPal account, just different email, address and ip address.
| But same name and SSN? |
| fbueller | 03-30-2024 12:29 AM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
I just realized I had records - they DID have my real SSN on the old account. Am I screwed and can't re-use it? |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by fbueller
(Post 1238457)
I just realized I had records - they DID have my real SSN on the old account. Am I screwed and can't re-use it?
| Though I havent faced this situation personally, since i dont have a SSN, I wouldnt use the SSN again....very easy to link accounts |
| yobar | 03-30-2024 09:45 AM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Yes, generally there shouldn't be any real problem with that, you can create a new account.
and enter the two platforms, they no longer have links, so they do not share information |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by fbueller
(Post 1238443)
But same name and SSN?
| degsey seems UK-based so prob not using SSN |
| murdered_by_ebay | 04-01-2024 10:16 AM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
you can go on and open , you will not be limited just because of an old account
nowadays paypal are much more sophisticated than 12 years ago , in the US they do online verification of SSN , here in the UK they do credit checks so that it is a new type of verification and old accounts without such verification do not matter anymore |
| agent006140 | 04-01-2024 01:15 PM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Paypal never delete any account,so it is not just SSN,but the bank account ,you cannot reuse the same bank account . |
| agent006140 | 04-01-2024 01:19 PM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1238657)
you can go on and open , you will not be limited just because of an old account
nowadays paypal are much more sophisticated than 12 years ago , in the US they do online verification of SSN , here in the UK they do credit checks so that it is a new type of verification and old accounts without such verification do not matter anymore
| There must be some unqiue ID for UK residents,if not SSN,what would that be?
I recall once on Paypal site,an Irish woman goes to London often and have a UK paypal account and UK bank account,Paypal suspended her account demanding her UK driver license which she does not have.
what did she do wrong? |
| murdered_by_ebay | 04-01-2024 01:41 PM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1238671)
There must be some unqiue ID for UK residents,if not SSN,what would that be?
I recall once on Paypal site,an Irish woman goes to London often and have a UK paypal account and UK bank account,Paypal suspended her account demanding her UK driver license which she does not have.
what did she do wrong?
| no ID needed , they use first name + second name + last name +DOB + address
all this has to match credit history , you leave out second name (if you have it) for example and you fail |
| SaiJin | 04-02-2024 08:38 AM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by fbueller
(Post 1238457)
I just realized I had records - they DID have my real SSN on the old account. Am I screwed and can't re-use it?
|
I'd still try and see. You got nothing to lose at this point.
If that doesn't work, there's always the stealth way |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay
(Post 1238676)
no ID needed , they use first name + second name + last name +DOB + address
all this has to match credit history , you leave out second name (if you have it) for example and you fail
| nice clarification |
| SaiJin | 04-08-2024 10:18 AM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
OP, did you end up making a new account How did it go? |
| fbueller | 11-03-2024 05:13 AM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
I haven't yet - I realized that they do have my old SSN. So I'd essentially be making an account with new bank account, address, IP, and phone #. But the SSN and name would be the same.
Would this screw me? Has anyone else done a new account after 12 years with the same name/SSN but everything else different? |
| agent006140 | 11-03-2024 07:18 AM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
You just have to find out yourself,Paypal never delete accounts,dead or alive.
Have you tried logging into your banned Paypal account,what happens then? |
| fbueller | 11-04-2024 03:02 AM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1249295)
You just have to find out yourself,Paypal never delete accounts,dead or alive.
Have you tried logging into your banned Paypal account,what happens then?
| Banned account login still shows the account as limited and permanently closed.
I edited the SSN # on the banned account to something else, no idea if that was a good idea or not.
I opened a new one with all new info, but no SSN and it's stable so far. However, I assume the moment my SSN gets put into the new account I'm toast. Can I use the account under $600 a year and not put that in? |
| agent006140 | 11-04-2024 06:07 AM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
dunno,you will just have to find out yourself. |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by fbueller
(Post 1249316)
I edited the SSN # on the banned account to something else, no idea if that was a good idea or not.
| I doubt editing will cover up the original SSN - that info is easily stored. I hope there are no funds in that account - right? |
| SaiJin | 11-04-2024 09:48 AM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by fbueller
(Post 1249293)
I haven't yet - I realized that they do have my old SSN. So I'd essentially be making an account with new bank account, address, IP, and phone #. But the SSN and name would be the same.
Would this screw me? Has anyone else done a new account after 12 years with the same name/SSN but everything else different?
| When did you give them the SSN?
if it's many years ago like 12 y, you should give it a try and make another account with all your legit info. |
| agent006140 | 11-04-2024 04:19 PM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
When Paypal was the payment processor on Ebay,Ebay did not ask for your SSN,as it expects Paypal to |
| fbueller | 11-05-2024 02:55 AM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 1249330)
When did you give them the SSN?
if it's many years ago like 12 y, you should give it a try and make another account with all your legit info.
| Yeah, I gave it to them like 12 years ago. I created a new one with all legit info, but left off the SSN. I can probably take in $600 bucks a year without giving it to them, but once I hit the $600 amount I'm probably screwed.
I also hope that editing the SSN on the old account didn't cause a red flag when putting it into the new one.
And lastly, my PayPal ban was when they were with eBay so a ban on one resulted in a ban on the other. I was eBay banned, but PayPal's ban came along for the ride. |
| fbueller | 11-05-2024 02:55 AM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 1249325)
I doubt editing will cover up the original SSN - that info is easily stored. I hope there are no funds in that account - right?
| On the original account? Oh, I got my money out of that account back 12 years ago. It's been zero since. |
| agent006140 | 11-05-2024 09:29 AM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
iT COULD depend on what you plan to do with your new Paypal account,what you sell and size and numbers of payment received ?
It is odd to go back to a banned account 12 years ago to change the SSN? |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by fbueller
(Post 1249352)
On the original account? Oh, I got my money out of that account back 12 years ago. It's been zero since.
| Good that the balance is zero - and yes all info is stored from day 1 by default |
| fbueller | 11-05-2024 02:20 PM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1249361)
iT COULD depend on what you plan to do with your new Paypal account,what you sell and size and numbers of payment received ?
It is odd to go back to a banned account 12 years ago to change the SSN?
|
Not much - I created a new eBay and that worked, which I directly payments directly to my bank account so no PayPal there.
Mostly using it for some payments, but 99% taking in money from Beermoney sites (about $100-$600 a month). Then fairly immediately moving that to my bank account. |
| SaiJin | 11-06-2024 11:44 AM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by fbueller
(Post 1249351)
Yeah, I gave it to them like 12 years ago. I created a new one with all legit info, but left off the SSN. I can probably take in $600 bucks a year without giving it to them, but once I hit the $600 amount I'm probably screwed.
I also hope that editing the SSN on the old account didn't cause a red flag when putting it into the new one.
And lastly, my PayPal ban was when they were with eBay so a ban on one resulted in a ban on the other. I was eBay banned, but PayPal's ban came along for the ride.
| Ok, so that's a long time ago.
If I were you I'd try to make a new account based on your real info.
Then make extra accounts per stealth guide way. |
| fbueller | 11-06-2024 02:42 PM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 1249418)
Ok, so that's a long time ago.
If I were you I'd try to make a new account based on your real info.
Then make extra accounts per stealth guide way.
| I created the real account using stealth - new IP, new address, different PC, new bank accounts, new phone #, new email (it was 12 years ago so have legit all new info anyways).
But are you saying to input my SSN #, the same one on the 12 years ago banned account? That's where I'm worried.
And if I do create a stealth account, how do I get a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ SSN for it? That's the hold up for me. |
| agent006140 | 11-06-2024 05:37 PM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
You dont have much of a choice,there is no such thing as stealth SSN,use your own and hope it works.
or do not use Paypal,use AMZN pay or Apple Pay or google PAY,there is also Propay if they are still around |
| fbueller | 11-08-2024 07:40 PM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1249437)
You dont have much of a choice,there is no such thing as stealth SSN,use your own and hope it works.
or do not use Paypal,use AMZN pay or Apple Pay or google PAY,there is also Propay if they are still around
|
So you can't just buy a PayPal anymore that will pass SSN? Or do you just need to buy an account from outside the US? |
| SaiJin | 11-11-2024 11:02 PM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by fbueller
(Post 1249430)
I created the real account using stealth - new IP, new address, different PC, new bank accounts, new phone #, new email (it was 12 years ago so have legit all new info anyways).
But are you saying to input my SSN #, the same one on the 12 years ago banned account? That's where I'm worried.
And if I do create a stealth account, how do I get a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ SSN for it? That's the hold up for me.
| I'm saying use all your real info including SSN to make a new account.
My guess is it will pass. |
| fbueller | 11-13-2024 06:11 PM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 1249609)
I'm saying use all your real info including SSN to make a new account.
My guess is it will pass.
| I'm going to wait until after Jan 1, since I won't hit the threshhold in 2024 at this point. Once I do that I'll try in the new year. I'll keep you all posted. |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by fbueller
(Post 1249673)
I'm going to wait until after Jan 1, since I won't hit the threshhold in 2024 at this point. Once I do that I'll try in the new year. I'll keep you all posted.
| Good luck - looking forward to good news |
| fbueller | 11-15-2024 04:44 PM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 1249686)
Good luck - looking forward to good news
| With PayPal? That'd be a first. LOL |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Quote:
Originally Posted by fbueller
(Post 1249493)
So you can't just buy a PayPal anymore that will pass SSN? Or do you just need to buy an account from outside the US?
| Buying a PP that will pass SSN is pretty illegal so it's beyond the forum account services I'd bet - you'll have to scour the web.
Buying an account from outside the US could work... |
| agent006140 | 11-17-2024 08:14 AM |
Re: PayPal banned 12 years ago - can I just make another now?
Someone bought a Paypal account which comes with SSN on this forum,he sold something,IRS moved in swiftly and seized the $$.
Getting a non US Paypal account may work,and you can link a US bank account but does Paypal check to see if the names match? |
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