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Whataboutism 07-06-2024 07:19 AM

Patreon/Paypal combo
 
Hey guys, newb here.

I have website that sells VIP access to certain content(gray area) and I charge users via Patreon that then transfers money to paypal.

Is this the best and safest way to avoid KYC from both sides?

So far I've managed to pull out some money(P2P crypto) and pay for servers and other services without problems.

I started to warm up account 1 year ago(added phone, credit card and logged in from time to time, but no money on account) and last 2 months I've been pulling some $$$ out that is increasing every week, steadily.

Is this combo the best because there are no cashbacks or physical goods.
Because it's in the gray area, I try to avoid any KYC if possible

Tips that I've gathered and am following atm(but not verified):
  • Keeping under 1k on account.
  • Not withdrawing right away when money arrives
  • Withdrawing 50-70% of the whole balance
  • Withdrawing max once a day. Preferably once a week

rsot 07-06-2024 09:08 AM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
Following for other people's experiences with Patreon

yobar 07-07-2024 04:14 PM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
It is important to understand and follow people who are really users of patreon

Whataboutism 07-08-2024 01:35 AM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thebesti (Post 1244067)
The way you do it seems very good to me, you shouldn't change your strategy. Although I would ask what you sell on your website.

Thanks.
I'm selling digital goods/SaaS.

SaiJin 07-09-2024 10:29 AM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Whataboutism (Post 1244074)
Thanks.
I'm selling digital goods/SaaS.

I know on eBay it's always risky to sell digital goods.

Paypal though I think should be ok.

rsot 07-10-2024 07:26 AM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
Agree with SaiJin - removing eb from the equation changes quite a bit on the use of pp...you should be ok as long as not a lot of chargebacks and issues

Whataboutism 07-14-2024 03:15 AM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1244181)
Agree with SaiJin - removing eb from the equation changes quite a bit on the use of pp...you should be ok as long as not a lot of chargebacks and issues

because of Patreon, I don't have any chargebacks.
Is there some kind of limit on paypal on how much money you can withdraw until they ask KYC?

rsot 07-14-2024 10:12 AM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Whataboutism (Post 1244324)
because of Patreon, I don't have any chargebacks.
Is there some kind of limit on paypal on how much money you can withdraw until they ask KYC?

what is your average incoming payment amount/ and how much times that amount do you have in the balance/

Whataboutism 07-15-2024 04:49 AM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1244336)
what is your average incoming payment amount/ and how much times that amount do you have in the balance/

plan is to earn 2k per month and withdraw from Patreon ~500 sums every week

rsot 07-15-2024 08:19 AM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
with pp, there was a kind of consensus to keep 3-4x the average sale in the account in order to keep it 'purring nicely' - dont withdraw to zero and certainly not right away after a sale

SaiJin 07-15-2024 07:06 PM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1244364)
with pp, there was a kind of consensus to keep 3-4x the average sale in the account in order to keep it 'purring nicely' - dont withdraw to zero and certainly not right away after a sale

Personally I don't like keeping ANYTHING in PP, what if they limit your account? You'll lose your money,

Whataboutism 07-16-2024 12:56 AM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1244387)
Personally I don't like keeping ANYTHING in PP, what if they limit your account? You'll lose your money,

What other option do I have?

rsot 07-16-2024 07:56 AM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1244387)
Personally I don't like keeping ANYTHING in PP, what if they limit your account? You'll lose your money,

I hear that but look at your posts from years ago...back when pp was used by eb for sales...if i recall correctly - anyhow, times change

SaiJin 07-16-2024 10:07 AM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Whataboutism (Post 1244402)
What other option do I have?

I'd keep the balance on Paypal enough to cover your shipping costs.
But the majority of the $ I'd withdraw to the bank immediately.

SaiJin 07-16-2024 10:07 AM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1244410)
I hear that but look at your posts from years ago...back when pp was used by eb for sales...if i recall correctly - anyhow, times change

Sure time always changes but PP still steals people's money regardless.

I don't trust them and neither should you

Whataboutism 07-16-2024 12:17 PM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1244416)
I'd keep the balance on Paypal enough to cover your shipping costs.
But the majority of the $ I'd withdraw to the bank immediately.

I do not have any shipping. I only sell digital goods via Patreon.

SaiJin 07-17-2024 10:28 AM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Whataboutism (Post 1244425)
I do not have any shipping. I only sell digital goods via Patreon.

Then I don't see why you'd keep your money in PP.

Especially with digital goods which is very risky.

Whataboutism 07-17-2024 03:37 PM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1244457)
Then I don't see why you'd keep your money in PP.

Especially with digital goods which is very risky.

Patreon is a great payment gateway that takes care of the subscription/recurring payments and they only pay out to paypal or payoneer. Paypal is only one that doesn't ask KYC right away

SaiJin 07-18-2024 08:31 PM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Whataboutism (Post 1244466)
Patreon is a great payment gateway that takes care of the subscription/recurring payments and they only pay out to paypal or payoneer. Paypal is only one that doesn't ask KYC right away

Right, so keep using them, but I wouldn't keep the money inside paypal long.

SaiJin 10-16-2024 09:33 AM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Whataboutism (Post 1243977)
Hey guys, newb here.

I have website that sells VIP access to certain content(gray area) and I charge users via Patreon that then transfers money to paypal.

Is this the best and safest way to avoid KYC from both sides?

So far I've managed to pull out some money(P2P crypto) and pay for servers and other services without problems.

I started to warm up account 1 year ago(added phone, credit card and logged in from time to time, but no money on account) and last 2 months I've been pulling some $$$ out that is increasing every week, steadily.

Is this combo the best because there are no cashbacks or physical goods.
Because it's in the gray area, I try to avoid any KYC if possible

Tips that I've gathered and am following atm(but not verified):
  • Keeping under 1k on account.
  • Not withdrawing right away when money arrives
  • Withdrawing 50-70% of the whole balance
  • Withdrawing max once a day. Preferably once a week

Side question, isn't patreon mainly used for XXX content?

JamesNorth101 10-16-2024 10:00 AM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1248450)
Side question, isn't patreon mainly used for XXX content?

Its used for all sorts

Thats just one thing it can be used for

Lots of IG creators also use it. Photographers. People doing lots of charity. IG cannot be monetised in the same way youtube / tiktok etc can be so they use patreon a lot instead. I would say only a small part of those that use patreon are XXX providers. Most xxx use OF

SaiJin 10-30-2024 09:33 AM

Re: Patreon/Paypal combo
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1248452)
Its used for all sorts

Thats just one thing it can be used for

Lots of IG creators also use it. Photographers. People doing lots of charity. IG cannot be monetised in the same way youtube / tiktok etc can be so they use patreon a lot instead. I would say only a small part of those that use patreon are XXX providers. Most xxx use OF

so OF has a payment processor.


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