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10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

Hi,

I have one Indonesian stealth account since almost 8-10 years. Since 8-10 years I am using same cookies and browser and use same Tuxler VPN to login and make transactions.

Everything seems fine but one week before when I received usual payments from some companies (receiving payments from same company since 4-5 years) then I tried to login by my usual method but I was asked to change password for security reasons. I tried to change, got PIN at email, entered PIN but then instead of password reset page, another and only option "Get SMS" appears however I don't have access to that mobile number which was used 8-10 years before.

Then I waited for 24 hours and tried again but same result. However when I tried to deposit funds via another site like Hosting site or Donation site then I get message "Welcome Back! We recognize you on this device" and I was also able to deposit $10 at hosting account. At this stage when session was active and my PP account was in logged in condition, I also tried to open dashboard or other pages directly by pasting urls but again I get that username/password form.

Then I waited for almost 4 days to get out of this security loop but today again same results. Again today when I tried to deposit funds through one hosting website I got message "Welcome back! We recognize you on this device ...".

Please help me how can I reset password when I don't have access to that mobile phone and its stealth account. I am avoiding to call or contact help center because they can ask for further documents which I don't have.

How to get out of this security-loop and reset password. If I get into this once then I would like to add one mobile number and also update VCC.

Thanks for helping me.


James

PS: I don't have any idea how PP support deals with kind of problem that's why I am hesitating to contact them.

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

I tried to change, got PIN at emai
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where is that email?

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

You could try logging in from another browser but without access to the phone number, I don't think it'll work. Calling is probably the only thing that may help.


To be clear, you're able to make payments using the balance but you can't login to your dashboard?

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

At this stage when session was active and my PP account was in logged in condition, I also tried to open dashboard or other pages directly by pasting urls but again I get that username/password form.

---did you or did you not get into your Paypal account?

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

He is not the only one who leaves a dead cell phone number in his account,why cant they take care of their paypal account by removing a dead phone and replacing it with a working one?
Paypal doe snot do business in Pakistan,do you think it has found out you are actually in Pakistan ?

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

What do you mean? This is the primary email set at Paypal, just received PIN as usual, entered PIN at paypal website but then again at next step I was asked for sms verification.

James

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

Yes, first day, I was able to deposit $10 + $15 at one hosting account (After when I saw Welcome Back! We recognize you ....) but can't open standard dashboard, even I tried to open different pages directly like summary, profile, etc.

James

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

No, not at all. I always use same Firefox browser and always use VPN, verify ip at tracemyip.org site and then login. And this is working smoothly since 8-10 years.

8-10 years before I created around 10-15 Asian and European accounts by creating different browser profiles, regularly updating vcc and provided identity documents for verification and all goes well. Just phone number was the only thing which I left because 8-10 years before getting sms verification phone number was not so common/easy.

Few years before I abandon European accounts because Paypal started to ask for SMS verification on each login attempt but Asian accounts keep working.

James

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

So what's the solution now, is there any way to contact to Paypal help line via email or support ticket? If yes, then can they ask documents again?

Updating phone number should be easy with excuse that I no longer have access to that old phone number. What would be PP reply with this excuse?

I have $1600 stuck in this account.


James

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

I never tried to login from totally different browser and always kept logging in from same old browser where original cookies/cache is stored.

Should I give a try by logging at new browser?

Or any website where I can make deposit and the utilize funds.

James

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

You can try buying something on EBAY and pay with your Paypal fund?
Or Etsy?

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

Today again first I tried to login as usual and got same "password reset" message. Then I left that tab open, opened new tab and again tried to load funds in hosting account (where I was successful two times) and also tried to buy something from other site. Again I got same message "Welcome Back! We recognized you ...." when I was redirected from other sites to Paypal site and when I tried to process further then I was asked username and password and then same old story .....

So basically at first attempt I was able to deposit funds twice in hosting account and after that two deposits, this method also don't work now.

Might be trying new browser is the last attempt before I contact with Paypal. During last 8-10 years since I have created this account, I never tried to login in different browsers, always used same browser where originally cookies were generated.

Any tip to move forward please!

Regards

James

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

Sometimes things like this can happen if your browser is out of date.


Only other option besides messing around with your browser is contacting Paypal customer service.

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

Paypal is always making changes ,what works before may not work now.
may be your VPN is not good enough??

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

try logging in with a new bro
wser(s),if that fails,you have no choice but to call Paypal.
Come to think of it,Paypal does not do business with Turkey,someone tried to access Paypal claiming he is not from Turkey,that does not work either.

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

Hopefully you know all the details of your pp account before contacting them.

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

WONT His phone call reveal he is in Pakistan?

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

Then he has to be smart about the way he contacts PP - some logical things don't have to be told to the OP...he should understand

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

Why not slowly drain the account over time on hosting or whatever you're using it for.. then switch to a new account with a new phone number?


You're lucky to be able to use the balance at all.

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

He cannot get into his account to do so.

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

Earlier in the thread he said he can make payments.


I thought it sounded weird too but that's what he said.

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

I thonk he said he can deposit payments,not make payments,then he could do nothing

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

Which is it James?

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

1. On very first day when I encountered this problem and tried to solved it at that day I was able to make 2 deposits at hosting company but after that (tried yesterday last time) this opportunity/option was also closed i.e. not working.

2. My Tuxler VPN (browser extension) is good as this VPN make strong dns level changes i.e. working great since years.

3. Absolutely I know I have to keep all account related details ready before making call. The only problem is I bought VCC from someone and now trying to find from where I bought VCC so I may have complete VCC details (complete card number, expiry cvc) before making call.

4. Tracing caller location: This is very basic thing and I know, definitely I will not call from my local number however I will first buy Indonesian number and then make call. Last time (years before) I bought Skype number and made similar successful call. I am sure similar opportunity is still open.

5. 1. On very first day when I encountered this problem and tried to solved it at that day I was able to make 2 deposits at hosting company but after that (tried yesterday last time) this opportunity/option was also closed i.e. not working (even after waiting for 3+ days). Now when I try and am redirected from vendor site to Paypal then still I get message "Welcome Back! We recognized you on this device ....." but now at this stage also I am asked for username and password.

6. James is James. :d

If someone knows from where I can buy cheaper Indonesian phone number then I can make call. I mean same phone number I will request Paypal to update in my profile. I don't know if VoIP will work or not.


James

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

you contact paypal , pass verification and place a new cellphone on file

this is the best way to go regardless of the other issues

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

do you know someone in Indonesia who can get into your account?You said you have $1600 in your account,so you need someone you can trust????????????
Or you just have to buy an Indo phone card.

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

I second this.... if it's just the phone number, I think they won't give you too much trouble to update

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

Yes, this is the option which I am thinking and will do. Just need to find complete vcc number from emails, forums. Need to find from where I bought that added vcc because I am sure, Paypal support will ask for complete card number, expiry and cvc. And other details I have like recent transactions, complete phone number and other history.

BTW, do you know how to get Indonesian phone number to make call to Paypal. And second which is best and cheap option to buy phone number for Paypal. Definitely I have to provide new number for update and I also need to keep that ready.

Which are 1,2,3 options to buy mobile number.

And another question, is it necessary that I must add Indonesian number or I can also add other country number.

I think if I do this as my own as normal user then adding other country phone number is fine but in current situation its risky to give Paypal support Non-Indonesian number as this will make my case more suspicious.

Regards

James

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

Sorry to say mate but I must have to say that your reply is very funny and illogical and reminds me some joke.

Whole night someone keep telling the story about some romantic person to a group of people and in the morning one from those people was asking if that person was "he" or "she". The whole night he could not figure out if story is about male or female.

In same way, this topic is started since so many days and I have posted each and every thing and today you are saying "who can get into your account". I work alone on Internet and also can't trust anyone about 8-10 days old Paypal.

If I can't get into this account then how some other body can get into this account.

Regards


James

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

The reason I said a real person from Indonesia could try getting into your Indonesian Paypal account.
May be the problem is Paypal knows you are not in Indonesia,your VPN may be good enough for individual ,but Paypal has something better ?
Just wild speculation.

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

Need call on support and add new phone

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

Besides Pakistan,PAYPAL also does not do business in Turkey.
I recall someone posted on this forum,he tried to say he is in Egypt and that does not work.
Have you consider asking someone who knows more about the VPN you are using?
or like someone suggested,use a different browser?

Re: 10 years old Stealth Indonesian PP, stuck in password reset loop
 

Morning chuckles :lol: