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Default Becareful about reading paypal emails

For those of you running on pure stealth paypal accounts, here is a word of caution:

dont open up emails from paypal in particular the one "you got money" from a different ip than that of your ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stealth account

I messed it up today, when I got a payment under my stealth account, I stupidly opened the "you got money" email on gmail under my "real ip" rather than my stealth account ip and got limited shortly after.

Either the HTML code in the paypal email message has some sort of ip tracking code or just pure coincidence

anyone else experience this?

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Never had a problem with that myself... do you have images disabled in gmail?
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What code did the limitation have ?
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the limitation code was RXI034
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Never had a problem with that myself... do you have images disabled in gmail?
Images were disabled... But heads up. as of 2010, the new "you got money" email message looks different.

Last year, the email message was mostly text based, whereas now the entire message is different, with alot more usuage of HTML which gmail doesn't seem to block and even includes a clickable html/css button on the email that gmail doesn't block
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permanent limitation "we dont want you as our customer "kind ?

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So you reged the paypal with VPN from different country than where you living?If so no way it caused by different ip.The email webbeacon track cookies not ips.
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I've never had this problem either. What was the reason you were limited?
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So you reged the paypal with VPN from different country than where you living?If so no way it caused by different ip.The email webbeacon track cookies not ips.
Are you sure about this? I did a quick search on "email webbeacon" and this is what I came up with...this seems to confirm my suspicions

Web bug - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"A Web bug is any one of a number of techniques used to track who is reading a Web page or e-mail, when, and from what computer. They can also be used to see if an e-mail was read or forwarded to someone else, or if a Web page was copied to another Website. The first Web bugs were small images."

"When an e-mail client or web browser prepares such an e-mail or Web page for display, it ordinarily sends a request to the server to send the additional content.

These requests typically include the IP address of the requesting computer, the time the content was requested, the type of Web browser that made the request, and the existence of cookies previously set by that server. The server can store all of this information, and associate it with a unique tracking token attached to the content request."

"For e-mail, many Web bugs can be avoided by turning off HTML display and displaying only the text. Turning off the display of images while still using HTML may still allow other techniques to be used."

case in point, its better to turn off HTML and images all together, and better yet not view your emails from different computers than that of the designated stealth one

this was a payment I received about 45 minutes prior. Everything was fine until I opened up the email. After opening up the email, two minutes later I got hit with a limitation. I did nothing else besides that. Keep in mind, this is a 100% bona-fide stealth, aged account with all the nusiances painfully and carefully as ever created

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have you got better privacy set up on firefox, that should stick it to LSO
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have you got better privacy set up on firefox, that should stick it to LSO
Hey Oompa!

I just installed the Better Privacy add-on for firefox and read through the documentation. It seems to be a powerful tool for managing/removing Flash Cookies. Since the latest eBay Stealth recommends against deleting your flash cookies, but instead to use separate user accounts on your PC, I haven't been deleting my flash cookies. So now I have 2 questions for you:

1 - Do you encourage users to delete their flash cookies after each session as opposed to what eBay Stealth recommens?

2 - How would the Better Privacy add-on protect us against what it seems like is being described here, that is, not being tracked by retrieving images (blocked by setting "display images" to off), but some other sort of HTML based tracking?
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^^ok, OP thinks that his ip is being captured by LSO (flash)

I am not sure if this is the case with gmail BUT vicvelcro (all round vanished busy-body of the forum) did suggest that there MAY be a problem or at least an intermittant one...so one should either only read emails on the seperate user screen they use for that account, and NOT delete cookies/flash

... or, if one uses one screen for everything, then use betterprivacy add-on....

he also suggested that if you reply to or through ebay/paypal - check you are not on an ip that has been used for another account, why, because apparently he tested the text and your ip is buried in there somewhere (although I looked at HTML and couldnt see it)
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Bottom line, turning off images is not enough. Gmail only prevents images, but it DOES NOT prevent HTML from being displayed on it's default preferences...

In the new 2010 "payment received" screen displayed in your email from paypal includes HTML. I belive they added a ip tracker code/ web bug to this new addition.

For those users not having experience this, again the old 2009 screen included little to no HTML, probably no tracking code, and merely frames displayed, but no real HTML

One more nusiance to worry about

This is a "outside of ebay" paypal transaction by the way

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So is there a way to set Gmail to not display HTML by default?
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