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DogFacedBoy 01-29-2008 09:58 PM

This isn't much different than telemarketers spoofing phone calls which there are currently bills in congress to make it a felony to do so

koalawash 01-29-2008 10:18 PM

It doesn't matter whether or not eBay uses proxies I would think. Couldn't their employees just look at the site at home anyway?

Ballsack 01-29-2008 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by savahaganda (Post 22810)
I think this whole paypal limitation funds thing is for huge transactions.... paypal does not want to get frauded out of a $2,000 sale. I can somewhat see putting a hold on full funds for something like that. But than again. such a transaction should be ok first, talkin about having your balls in a grinder

Granted but since when did that ever stop them from limiting an account when you tried to withdraw $100 after maybe doing a few hundred dollars of business? I can't wait till one of us comes on here to complain that their $50 is being held for 21 days.

imjustme 01-29-2008 11:17 PM

What I find strange and what I believe needs to be discussed is their "less than 5% of payments" sentence. So far, they told us that unless you have:

* Less than 6 months registered on eBay
* Less than 100 feedback
and some other things..

They MAY hold your funds. Whether in eBay terms that means they WILL hold the funds, we don't know.

Surely it's NOT only 5% of eBay sellers that have been registered for 6+ months and have 100 feedback. Surely not, I mean come on ...

So does it affect about 5% of sellers that have less than 100 feedback? Or is the 5% estimate those buyers that have less than 100 feedback?

topazcorp 01-29-2008 11:19 PM

Hey guys why don't we do like them and start banning people out of this site if they don't fax their life to Aspkin:D

imjustme 01-29-2008 11:21 PM

By the way, notice how they say if you have 20+ feedback and a detailed rating of 4.5 your funds won't be held?

Jonas 01-29-2008 11:35 PM

Ebay also likes ebay accounts older than 6 months.


But anyway, ebay also said DSRs of 1 or 2 will count as bad to you.

imjustme 01-29-2008 11:36 PM

Great, so a competitor can bid on your item. You can't leave him negative feedback, but he can leave you a DSR of 1 on each row, causing you to be a "bad seller" and having your funds locked up for 21 days on top.

Chris Hanson 01-29-2008 11:53 PM

Thats the point.. I bet paypal employees will start bidding on sellers item just to leave them neg feedback to have an excuse to lock up funds..

Its all a big game

Dutch 01-29-2008 11:54 PM

All these new restrictions take away from the business of selling without repercussion makes them (eby and PP) money and not you in the long run. I don't have these problems anymore outside of the ebay community. Even when my customers use paypal, they know what they are getting and without incident from ebay.

Ebay controls their sellers now. Sellers have lost their rights IMHO. I sell my Veros without incident without using ebay. No one buys Veros on ebay anymore when they can get it cheaper and faster someplace else and privately.

Not all auction marketplace sites that accept paypal want intrusive garbage from an ebay-owned site that is dictating the rules. Sellers need to get back to the business of running their own businesses, and finally leave PP in the gutter, and go merchant account.

ebay is no longer a trusted name.

Chris Hanson 01-29-2008 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebayhateluv (Post 22792)
CHRIS...Naahhh.. I think Everyones Over Reacting..
--Dont you think those high paid Loss Prevention people have to come up with something new every once in a while, to keep their jobs??
-- I mean for real-- the standard "Limitation, fax your drivers license is kinda old,,,for real??
-- A New Challenge, a New Day.. Thats all!
-- The Managers all have New Bosses coming on board- Dont you think they wanna IMPRESS??

yep and we are giving them something new to come up with..

Telling you everytime we come up with something new they block it within a month..

Merchant accounts, now this

Dutch 01-29-2008 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hanson (Post 22828)
Thats the point.. I bet paypal employees will start bidding on sellers item just to leave them neg feedback to have an excuse to lock up funds..

Its all a big game

That is exactly what happened to me and I got suspended. I have been waving that red alert ever since. The "buyers" are dubious, and many are ebay staff itself.

The people making the real money are their employees with sellers accounts.

ebayhateluv 01-29-2008 11:57 PM

Very GOOD Point, Dutch.. Well Taken. :)

koalawash 01-30-2008 12:09 AM

Yeah it's like eBay kamikaze attack.. no way to defend.

EDIT: LOL not even that I guess.. I forget the buyer can't get neg fb's now. :rolleyes:

ebayhateluv 01-30-2008 12:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hanson (Post 22830)
yep and we are giving them something new to come up with..

Telling you everytime we come up with something new they block it within a month..

Merchant accounts, now this

Well.. we all have our own opinions, I know this much.. there are some Extremely Intelligent folks on this Forum.
- Whatever they throw at us, we'll overcome.
--BTW- if Aspkins Forum grows some more, Paypal + Ebay will have to hire more staff! Its Absolutely Amazing the ideas + sharing that goes on here!

-- I have been a member of the Rolex Forums for years, and thats BORING compared to in here.. (+ most of those folks own yachts + the like) :))

ebayhateluv 01-30-2008 12:18 AM

SAVAH- Always a Laugh!!! :)) Breaks the ICE!

Chris Hanson 01-30-2008 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dutch (Post 22831)
That is exactly what happened to me and I got suspended. I have been waving that red alert ever since. The "buyers" are dubious, and many are ebay staff itself.

The people making the real money are their employees with sellers accounts.

Yep exactly. thats what i have been saying for months, but nobody wanted to believe..

koalawash 01-30-2008 02:01 AM

Well not really. I've known about eBay employees bidding on items for some time because it's happened to me before..

ebayhateluv 01-30-2008 02:10 AM

They are "supposed" to send you a courtesy email, advising you they are ebay employees, bidding on your items, its a generic email with their user id, and where theyre from, i.e. ebay canada, etc, I have had many over the years,, funny thing--- never sold to any, guess my reserves always too high for them?

imjustme 01-30-2008 03:05 AM

The question is, after the 21 days are up ..can you withdraw all funds immediately? Or will they slap you with a limitation if you try to withdraw say $1000 at once?

Ballsack 01-30-2008 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebayhateluv (Post 22867)
They are "supposed" to send you a courtesy email, advising you they are ebay employees, bidding on your items, its a generic email with their user id, and where theyre from, i.e. ebay canada, etc, I have had many over the years,, funny thing--- never sold to any, guess my reserves always too high for them?

How can they interfere with your auction that way? Why are they getting involved in the bidding process?? They have to be breaking some law by doing this.

Chris Hanson 01-30-2008 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonas (Post 22874)
Can you cancel their bids and block them from bidding if you get that email?

Or will they suspend you for doing that?



of course you can block their bids if you want, but if you do u already know they are going to mess with your account for the hell of it..


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