PayPal leaves phone ON hook (i catch them discussing me)

[joea]

Originally Posted by Mzgr3k0

Just reading through this..
What exactly is a merchant account?

google merchant inc, it is like paypal, but not as restrictive, it takes debit and cc securely (can use it on ebay), also takes paypal.

[FandangoKango]

Man if you would of gotten it recorded and sent it to the news media paypal could face big changes. Wish that dude would of been fired!

[Ballsack]

You really are a shadow.

[LoopHole]

hahahahahahahhahaha "his business model sucks" that just cracked me up....

But.... if it does suck im guessing they ban you for not making them enough money????

But.... if you sell too much and still receive all good feedback from people they ban you for making them too much money?????

These risk factors will be really hard to find out.....

[elitepowersales]

Is this really surprising news to anyone? We have known for years the the killbots on both ebay and paypal look for risk factor anomalies. You raise a certain number of flags you get human review and the banned or limited. That is why one person can be violate the risk factors exactly like you, but not get banned because they are only tripping one flag instead of several.

[Sneakee]

To the poster above me:

I guess it's surprising to me because I always thought the risk factor suspended/banned issue was automated. I didn't think there was a living, breathing human that would actually determine it in a few seconds.

Originally Posted by shadow

How do you not agree with it if you don't know what they are :P.

My personal opinion is that i think the factors are based around common sense. Yours probably wasn't limited because like you said you had been around since 2006. If i sold 8500 on a brand new acc, no doubt it would be suspended indefinitely

Great post. Are there any more details you can tell us like any points he said? Or is it too personal?

I'm dying to know at least a couple things he point out on why your "business model sucked".

[JackTK]

I'm guessing "business model" is some kind of buzzword for ebay and paypal reps that has a special meaning to them that includes specific criteria they learn about in their training classes, and isn't the same as a layperson's definition of a business model.

Reminds me of a post I read on here about someone who had an account for 45 minutes and listed one low-risk item, got restricted and EBay said they didn't like their business model... what business model? lol

[Sneakee]

Originally Posted by JackTK

I'm guessing "business model" is some kind of buzzword for ebay and paypal reps that has a special meaning to them that includes specific criteria they learn about in their training classes, and isn't the same as a layperson's definition of a business model.

Reminds me of a post I read on here about someone who had an account for 45 minutes and listed one low-risk item, got restricted and EBay said they didn't like their business model... what business model? lol

Oh I totally agree. Well, at least, I'm making the same assumption as you. I bet they have a list of checkpoints that they refer to as a "business model".

But I would call how they classify what a business model is as more laymen than what the word actually means.

[pod]

They use "business model" so they dont have to say "untrustworthy" out loud. Nothing more

[buel]

Hi,
Id like to add a point regarding 'business models' and how ebay/Paypal view them- There are loads (and i mean loads) of obviously pirated DVDs on ebay, i dont understand (or mind) why they cant see those as vero items or 'poor business models' yet decide that other ones are?

[UnderBites08]

Next time send them a business plan and a powerpoint!

[jumba]

Was this just for buying? same thing happened to me. I had my pp limited (just a buying account) because i bought concert tickets. next thing i know theyve banned me and when i asked why they gave me some crap like they couldnt discuss with me risk factors involved. they are such w**kers!

[cortex]

I know of one Risk Factor..

1) Number of refunds completed.

To get around this ...if a customer wants a refund, i send them the money using "Send Money" option rather than "Issue Refund".

[moneyhustler88]

wow thats really interesting to hear man..definetely keep us updating on this i'd love to hear more

[oompaloompa]

[GTB]

i think paypal asses your ebay account too

see if your selling naughty items

breaches

negative feedback

if you drive a yellow car or not etc

this is just my thoughts...not fact

[moneyhustler88]

^^ i agree with GTB there

[Bunneh]

Originally Posted by cortex

I know of one Risk Factor..

1) Number of refunds completed.

To get around this ...if a customer wants a refund, i send them the money using "Send Money" option rather than "Issue Refund".

Does it count if you issue refunds for postage?
Because if my buyer overpays on postage ( regardless of the amount) I refund the difference.

[unkown5454]

Originally Posted by cortex

I know of one Risk Factor..

1) Number of refunds completed.

To get around this ...if a customer wants a refund, i send them the money using "Send Money" option rather than "Issue Refund".

Ok, but are you saying refunds after a case has been opened or just blatant refunds for whatever other reasons?

[GTB]

refunds equates to issues of some sort

for whatever reason it still looks dicey

as someone mentioned...just send the money

but i am pretty sure they take another 101 things into consideration

and all in all......a humanoid makes the final decision so there is no hope

[Nissan2nr22]

Haha this is funny, great story OP