Paypal requires ssn when upgrading to business now?

[haohigh]

Still cant figure out any solution for now, waiting for the good news

[revenge]

No, I hate to say this but my recommendation would be ti cease any upgrades or account creation until July 9, 2015.

[dustin2br]

Go through the upgrade process again, when it takes you to the final page for the "patriot act" asking for last 4 digits of ssn, open a new tab and type in paypal dot com....keep opening new tabs with the url until it finally brings you to your new business home page. This has got to be the strangest thing I've seen on paypal yet.

[trosky]

And right now at the first notification to provide tax info they limit your account and can't upgrade to business because it's limited. Any way around this besides opening a new business account which still asks for the SSN?

[revenge]

A week ago many users saw GH68rc1 error on the eBay logo and some pages were not available as well. Within that same week every upgrade and new account on PayPal was getting the ssn verification. These incidents are supposedly a glitch from the eBay and PayPal separation which is in progress right now. The deadline for the system separation is in July 9, 2015.

However, knowing that PayPal is the devil himself. They may just leave it as is just to see everyone suffer. If after the system separation this error is not fixed then I would assume this is permanent.

[pr0wake]

to the guys having this trouble- did you try converting before withdrawing any funds?

Ive noticed paypal getting finicky with accounts that do not withdraw

[GhostOfAmazon]

Originally Posted by pr0wake

to the guys having this trouble- did you try converting before withdrawing any funds?

Ive noticed paypal getting finicky with accounts that do not withdraw

Yes, every time I try I do it shortly after account creation.

Would hate to lose an account due to SS requirements after adding a bank, etc.

[revenge]

PayPal removed this verification request one of my account with my real info. If you don't have $20k in sales or 200 item sold them this is a glitch confirmed by PayPal themselves. You may have to call then more a couple of times. Be careful PayPal and ebay are notorious liars. You may get a lying rep telling you it's just you having this issue and a honest rep that knows this is not normal.

Remember if you are not adding funds, sold any item, reached 200 sales, or have $20k in sales then this is a glitch.

PM for any advice on this issue.

[ebayerOG]

Its generally recommended to not convert to a business account until you get the request for tax information

if you cannot wait that long, just be sure to somewhat establish the account first and have successful fund withdrawals to your bank.

so your statement - "Would hate to lose an account due to SS requirements after adding a bank, etc" - is redundant. you are losing an account when you convert it to a business right away. Take your time.

[GhostOfAmazon]

Originally Posted by ebayerOG

so your statement - "Would hate to lose an account due to SS requirements after adding a bank, etc" - is redundant. you are losing an account when you convert it to a business right away. Take your time.

I'm sorry, but you seem to be missing the point.

3 weeks ago, I, and apparently, everyone else, could create business accounts day 1 with no problems or verification, as many as we wanted.

Today, this is no longer the case.

If this had ALWAYS been that way, I'd agree with you, but since this is a RECENT change, that's why there is a discussion about it.

[trosky]

Originally Posted by ebayerOG

Its generally recommended to not convert to a business account until you get the request for tax information

if you cannot wait that long, just be sure to somewhat establish the account first and have successful fund withdrawals to your bank.

so your statement - "Would hate to lose an account due to SS requirements after adding a bank, etc" - is redundant. you are losing an account when you convert it to a business right away. Take your time.

As I said before 2 of my accounts got limited on the FIRST request for tax information, and it doesn't let you upgrade to business because of the limitation, so there's no way to pass beyond that and enter the EIN number.

It's not a normal limit since you can still do everything on the account, except upgrade. After 2nd request they limit beyond that and can't accept payments.

[revenge]

Originally Posted by ebayerOG

Its generally recommended to not convert to a business account until you get the request for tax information

if you cannot wait that long, just be sure to somewhat establish the account first and have successful fund withdrawals to your bank.

so your statement - "Would hate to lose an account due to SS requirements after adding a bank, etc" - is redundant. you are losing an account when you convert it to a business right away. Take your time.

That's not my quote but I have to say that information is incorrect, this happened on one of my accounts that is 1.5 yrs old. Also they can remove it off you call them and get the right rep.

[GhostOfAmazon]

Originally Posted by revenge

That's not my quote but I have to say that information is incorrect, this happened on one of my accounts that is 1.5 yrs old. Also they can remove it off you call them and get the right rep.

He was quoting me, revenge.

[revenge]

I know that.

[ebayerOG]

I'm not so sure this is a temporary glitch

paypal* has also started limiting accounts that send funds before making any withdrawals

it may be safer to process a few transactions, withdraw a time or two, then convert if absolutely necessary

I believe its best to wait for business conversion until the account gets to the point where it requests tax information before burning an EIN prematurely.

burning banks is far better than burning EINs

but this is a great discussion

[revenge]

Originally Posted by ebayerOG

I'm not so sure this is a temporary glitch

ebay has also started limiting accounts that send funds before making any withdrawals

it may be safer to process a few transactions, withdraw a time or two, then convert if absolutely necessary

I believe its best to wait for business conversion until the account gets to the point where it requests tax information before burning an EIN prematurely.

burning banks is far better than burning EINs

but this is a great discussion

Never heard of any eBay feature for sending fund or withdrawing fund.

Welcome to planet earth btw.

[ebayerOG]

sorry if I upset anyone, I'm just trying to share my first hand recent experience and solutions

meant paypal of course, my mistake

[revenge]

The thing that you don't is that if you establish a small sale history that is just gives then an excuse to ask for ssn but if you don't have any history there is no reason for them to ask for it if all you need is a EIN.

They are trying to be bank but they can't. They have a option now to reinstate old accounts because banks do not blacklist people WITHOUT the option to reinstate.

I bet PayPal is snooping on this thread right now laughing.

[ebayerOG]

there are many factors that affect account behaviors. there are somewhat predictable behaviors, and some not so much

paypals getting limited after the first tax info request is NOT normal. Usually they send a few requests letting you know they want it, and you want to have an EIN handy to add

its also important to note that the IRS takes 2 full weeks to reflect newly registered EINs in their databases. Perhaps that could set off a SSN trigger if you add a brand new EIN and it wasn't able to be correlated?

problem is, we cannot generalize specific account behaviors. There are many many variables and occasional anomalies. What we can only do is have a general understanding from repeated observed account behaviors... its more of a theory than a law.

YMMV, but this new SSN request seems to me like a security measure. Accounts converting so quickly, to me, would appear somewhat risky. Accounts that open as a business from the start, not so much.. and accounts that convert after "proving" the information is valid and functioning, also not as risky.

try to look at things from their perspective and hopefully plan proactively

[GhostOfAmazon]

Still missing the point.....all of this is RECENT. These changes took place within the past 3 weeks. Since the "separation" THIS is why there is discussion.

You act as if things were always this way...that's not the case.

[revenge]

Originally Posted by ebayerOG

there are many factors that affect account behaviors. there are somewhat predictable behaviors, and some not so much

paypals getting limited after the first tax info request is NOT normal. Usually they send a few requests letting you know they want it, and you want to have an EIN handy to add

its also important to note that the IRS takes 2 full weeks to reflect newly registered EINs in their databases. Perhaps that could set off a SSN trigger if you add a brand new EIN and it wasn't able to be correlated?

problem is, we cannot generalize specific account behaviors. There are many many variables and occasional anomalies. What we can only do is have a general understanding from repeated observed account behaviors... its more of a theory than a law.

YMMV, but this new SSN request seems to me like a security measure. Accounts converting so quickly, to me, would appear somewhat risky. Accounts that open as a business from the start, not so much.. and accounts that convert after "proving" the information is valid and functioning, also not as risky.

try to look at things from their perspective and hopefully plan proactively

when did you upgrade your PayPal account?

[revenge]

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon

Still missing the point.....all of this is RECENT. These changes took place within the past 3 weeks. Since the "separation" THIS is why there is discussion.

You act as if things were always this way...that's not the case.

he doesn't get the picture