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NEW EBAY VERIFICATION SUSPENSIONS- MC010 - MC169 NOTICE: eBay Registration Suspension
 

If you start a new stealth eBay account now you **WILL** be hit with one of these two suspensions.

If you receive an MC010 suspension this is a "soft" identity verification email. If you respond within 48 hours and call them then they will typically just clear you over the phone.

If you wait more than 48 hours after receiving an MC010 you will be hit with an MC169 and this will *REQUIRE* a copy of your driver's license and a recent utility bill.

Sometimes you receive an MC169 without an MC010.

Sometimes you receive and MC010 or MC169 more than once (Two of my accounts went through verification 3 times).

If you are suspended you can still withdraw from Paypal. It does not appear that Paypal cares as much about these suspensions as they do about others. I have never had a limitation problem after about 30 different accounts going through this process.

PROCESS:

You have to fax the documents in. The approximate turnaround time is a week (quickest has been 5 days and one account took over 2 weeks).

This is a pain in the butt more than anything. Have your ID and utility bills ready BEFORE you are suspend because you will be and it is best to be ready.

On the plus side, I have not had a Paypal limitation on ANY accounts that have gone through eBay MC010 or MC169 verifications *YET*. I will keep you posted on this.

I decided to start an official thread on this since many people have questioned this suspension and no one has provided much relevant information yet. Please feel free to add or subtract as you feel appropriate.

Good luck.

One more thing:

These suspensions are not triggered because you "list too fast". I don't list anything on ANY of my accounts until they reach a min. 90 days of age. I had one 90+ day account with ONE $9.99 item receive an MC010 hours after posting ONE item. All of my accounts are peerlessly created and are 100% stealth. This is just a new verification tool and all accounts will eventually get hit with them.

Yeah these are a major pain in the ass

Yeah its something that got you flagged!

It is something they do on *ALL* new accounts now. I know this for a fact.
Be careful about what you post

I was planning on creating a new account tonight to let age - crap crap

i got hit with one of these with a stealth i let sit about 9 months or more.

unfortunately, i cant verify them because i made them back then with female names (im male), and there are periods/dashes in the address to make them seem different , that wouldn't hold up under human scrutiny

i did notice something though. my $300 withdrawl from a day before was reversed, and my paypal was limited a day later. they didnt even wait for the 48 hours like they wrote ( they literally pulled that on me at 3pm on friday, when they keep normal business hours. its absurd)

. I got this straight from the eBay reps I talk to. I play dumb and ask questions to get information. ALL NEW SELLING ACCOUNTS receive this limitation. It doesn't necesarily come after you list your first item. Sometimes they will get you after a month with 30 feedbacks. Once you hit a certain level and you trigger their flag then they will nail you. There are internal limits that you don't know about placed on your account. When you cross that limit they hit you with one of these suspensions.

Here is another example of an email they sent to one of my new accounts:


FR0RC002 Regarding your eBay account (KMM1030xxxxxxxxx77L0KM)

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eBay Customer Support - rswebhelp
<rswebhelp@ebay.com> Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 4:43 AM
To: xxxxxxxx@gmail.com
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Dear xxxxxxxx,

Thank you for selling on eBay.

I'm pleased to let you know that your selling limits have been raised.
You can now have up to $7000 of open merchandise at a time on your eBay
selling account.

We are committed to reducing both fraud and negative buying experiences.
To maintain a safe marketplace, we sometimes request additional
identification, or restrict a seller’s activity. These limits are not
meant to be a reflection of your account's activity, but rather a
preventative measure.

Similar to a credit card, we have limits in place on each eBay account
to help prevent fraud and also allow accounts to grow at a
pre-determined level. Unfortunately we see accounts that grow so fast
that the account owner is unable to keep up with the sales and leaves
the site prematurely. We want to avoid both situations, and account
limits help us do this.

If an account reaches these limits, we are more than happy to review and
potentially raise these limits. In most situations, we require
additional verification in the form of proof of identity as well as
invoices for the products being listed.

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
Mikaya

eBay Customer Support
Trust and Safety Operations

yeah ebay reps as well as paypal reps are know to lie alot so i would'nt take what the say to serious. We are cattle to them and they will only tell you what they want you to hear. they do limt and verfiy you 2 or 3 months down the line then heck ditch the account and make a new one its that simple. Its just like all paypal accounts will get limted one time or another and ask for ssn's but do u think that stops people.

I got a account right now thats last over 1 month alrdy with like 50+ feedback and it hasnt been picked for verfaction but then again i list like 20 items at once on that one.

Like aspkin says Dont Put All Your Eggs In One Basket ;)

reps definately lie!

My volume of sales see my accounts limited within a few weeks whatever....

That's the great thing about stealth - the accounts are throw-away. I've usually got eveything I wanted out of them by the time the flags go up.

CaptainJack

Yeah important rule to remeber when useing ebay your only there for one thing and thats Makeing Money. Like me im not there to see how long my accounts last or how many feedback i get or get socialy stable in the ebay communty. Im there to make as much money as i can and as fast as i can before getting banned or limted. I have to get my moneys worth out of each id i have :D

I think part of this is they are doing name, birthdate and address checks automatically for new sellers. So stealth accounts get flagged quickly and easily with ebay's new system when your name and address do not match on their new database they pull from.....its crazy cause it's almost like they are doing soft credit checks with only a name and address and sometimes birthdate.

We think we found a way around this though for new stealth accounts PM me and I will share. If you have less than 100 post don't bother I won't reply tired of the road blocks being put up from too much info being put out for trolls to see. If you find the info helps add a thank you to the post:D

For every time they find a way to make it safer for their business (eBay) there can be a work around that makes it easier to look safe to them.

Hmm that would work except people move all the time so they really cant base it on the name and address not matching. I dont think ebay can access dob that is like accessing ssn and other personal info. Only info they could get onlne to check you is name and address and phone #'s unless they got access to the dmv database or other agencys like that.

Reps lie a lot but for a pro like myself I know how to weed through the bullcrap.

And I'm not debating what I have found to be facts. Unless you sell next to nothing, your account WILL be limited and asked for identification if you are new.

Also, good point about the soft credit checks. They definitely do this when they put you on hold after you call in. When they can't pin point you then they ask for the drivers license and utility bill.

They been doing this for along time like almost a year ago i had listed on ebay and the employee called me to verfiy this and that and i didnt answare and they just banned the account instead of limting it. I guess they pissed off to many users so they started limting them instead of banning them.

Yeah well its happening now and its a huge change for the stealth account makers, holders and users. Either put out or get out is how they are treating newbie sellers....put out proof of who you are by either answering questions pertaining to the person's info you just gave by answering questions via phone or fax over a dl and copy of bill.....if you can't do one or the other your out from what I have been seeing lately. I don't do amazon but man its starting to sound like the bay is tightening the vise just like them:fight:.

Im sure ebay has studied the statistics they know everyone starts out as a buyer and Im sure they have changed some things likw maybe where if you have been a buyer with maybe 20 plus feedback and account 6-9 months old they won't bother you which is fine for a lot of normal regular new sellers but for the guys who hit it and forget it selling wise by burning through newer accounts it means the beginning of the end.

everyone who pm'ed me just sent you all a reply.

I would'nt worry to much about it theres always a way ;) Just like in the past when ever ebay makes a moat around the castle we always seem to find away to make a bridge across it :D

:faint:...

On the other hand, I sold 2 Nike shoes ranging from 300-400 on my 1 month old account and never had a problem. They were also my first items. (Created the account on June 18, 2009. Listed the 2 Nike shoes on July 16 and 17.) So IDK what you guys are selling. Must be software or something. I don't think they would limit someone for VERO on a new account specially when they only let you list 2-3 VERO items per month.

yeah like with me out of 4 ids i made the past month only one got hit with the verification. I think it depends on what u sale and maybe the street address u use on ebay. The address i use are not real so that could be what gave me away.

Correct! Thanks for reminding me about this one. This is one of the reasons also and it causes trouble because I used to do this about 1+ years ago until I finally got the idea to start using real names and addresses from The Official WhitePages - Find People for Free

;)

yeah it sucks haveing to use real info cause it could be considerd as identy theft if u was to ever get caught. I think it would be safe to use a real address with a different name that away it couldnt be id theft begin you just used the persons address not there name :D

WELCOME TO THE NEW EBAY LIMITED / EBAY SUSPENSION / PAYPAL LIMITED FORUMS

One is preparing documents for an account now. eBay Limitation is twice as exhausting as PayPal.

For those who have already gone through the eBay verification process, how many days on average is it taking you to have your account cleared? Mine is about a week.

With the verification where they ask for a call back in 48 hours the account never actually got suspended as in naru....the listing that was up they did not end it they removed it from the search engine but if you had the item number or had put it on your watch list you could still find it and bid.


The account was back up and running after the verification question was answered correctly in 2 hours....listing showed back up in the ebay search engine in that time frame with all the original bids and hits on the hit counter.

However they never did send a confirmation email stating the account was back up and ok....they just sent one of those "would you like to fill out a customer service survey" emails...

That was our situation but I think there are different versions of this new ebay seller verification going out.

What questions are you asked to answer with the MC010? Is it possible to verify an MC010 with a generated identity?

Hey guys, i have been an ebay stealth seller for couple of years and i can truly tell you that ebay just got a new verification system since the begining of december.

I have created 12 account this week and 9 of them were banned.. I think it depends on several factors such as how fast you list, how fast you build your feedback, what type of items you have tried to sell.

Although us accounts are harder to verify, now ebay making international accounts harder to sell.

I am in traning now. Tranining their new system and will share with you when any new info comes out.

It's got more to do with the time of year than anything else!

It's nearly Christmas.... Every scammer and his dog is trying to get on Ebay to make a quick buck.

Things will settle down in January.

CaptainJack

Well now they will kill them self's because people will use real names with real addresses and birth dates . So they will suspend real people on the end and there wont be anyone left to suspend ;-) USE EBAY EMPLOYS NAMES

I always start real slow, ive made a couple in last few weeks, and no, not had anything, like that, maybe its just the US - thanx for the warning though....

what about excuse of not having ssn cos foreign student, just arrived etc....

I opened five stealth accounts.

Two of them was hitted after few hours, I had not yet listed anything.

One account got suspension after listing.

One got suspended after auction ended and payment was made.

One is selling and is not yet suspended.

These three accounts I sell exact similiar items with different pictures.

I provided them proof of stealth id and address and I've not yet had an answer from them. It's been a week now.

Sounds like you are being linked somehow.

What country are the accounts registered in?

CaptainJack

Registered from Finland to US accounts.

They asked an proof of ID and address.

I don't think they've linked them unless they check macaddresses. All other data is different. Flash and other cookies deleted.

I've linked one time when I started this stealth thing and then they just limited account indefinetly so I don't think this is same thing.

I contacted them and they said it takes more time now because there is so many suspension appeals at this time..

We noticed it on Thanksgiving so it was in place at least with some november accounts...maybe even earlier than that.

But I think this rush of suspemsions and appeals are not linked to items for sell or anything, check my earlier reply.. I think it's just that they verify pretty much each account that is now registered.

If it is not due to holliday session then ebay will loose alot of new customers with their new approval system. Everyone who wants to sell in their platform must not exposed to such treatment.

yeah but remember most REAL new ebayers start out as buyers for awhile its their proven stat....and so what if you are a new seller and are legit the documents are a fax or email away in their eyes if your legit....if you don't want to send them documents to prove you are who you say you are then they can care less and im sure they have numbers showing they are better off not having those people on ebay....

Its all a numbers game with them....their original concept means nothing anymore. Their platform can still to this day be exploited and ebay/paypal can and do get scammed easily....if ebay had it their way they would require SSN's on everyone but they know the site will become a ghost town if that was the case.

Its all about money...it's sad though bad trading has caused a lot of the strict rules. Even if another ebay site came out that would compete head to head with ebay they are going to have to be just as strict or their system will loose truckloads of money daily.

When they are the "give us a call in the next 48 hours" suspensions I don't think they are due to the type of items you are selling either....and I don't think its just a holiday thing....

You don't enforce a soft background check on new sellers for just 2 months of the year...its too much setup and employee training...its here to stay I think. However I hope I am wrong.

I have newer got that soft suspension. It's different for outside US eBay users. They always immediatelly suspend and ask proof of ID and address. I think this is because US users have more information to give up when registering account.

ok, I think I have this system beat. Simply do a background check yourself, no matter how ⊗⊗⊗⊗ you think the name your using is, someone out there has the name your using. Just look it up, see what state thier in, old phone number, address etc... that way you can answer thier multiple choice questions since they are simple if you have the right info.

What state was your social issued?

What address is familiar etc?

Where address have you previously lived at?

These should be easy to get past if we get the right information.