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How to deal with ID verify the correct way
 

We need to have directions for people to deal with this new problem.
How to call them and what to say.. What name and address to use.. And when they ask where you lived before other info you will have it ready (easy to get that info) What ids and bills to fax them and info like that. Please tell us your experience about when you fax info and what happens and how long it took. We know for fact now that all new accounts will have id verify. We need to get this problem out of the way.

Are you talking about ebay or paypal?

talking about ebay new Id ver

I've never had to do it with any of my stealth accounts so I can't add much to this other than when you asked what name and address to use I would suggest the name and address you registered the account with.

Not all new accounts get id verified as stated in the thread ebay dosent have the manpower to verifiy every new seller and to top it off it will drive away new future ebay customers/sellers.

best bet is figuring out what u listed that triggered it and dont list that item. I see alot of new people starting off listing a $500 VeRO item on a new account . they got id verfied so that means dont start off selling high $ vero its best not to even start off selling vero at all to avoid getting id verified.

all of my new accounts in my experience get id ver within 30 days. No matter what I sell. I dont sell vero items..
Maybe is how many you post I dont know but I will find out soon. All of my old accounts are ok no id ver.

Read the all the posts by searching this forum, alot of good information is there for you to learn about this new process.

ID verifying everyone isn't cost effective either. eBay does it based on risk assessment. They would lose a lot of money if they force everyone to ID verify.

The issue is not what to say but what to do to reduce the risk of having to go thro' the process. :ranger:

This approach is papering the cracks after they have appeared. Yes, a user must know about their account. But operate the account correctly
and you should not need to play the game.

So how many people do you know here who got new accounts and have not been hit with id ver after 30 days or more? (im not talking posting just 1 action in that 30 days).. I get it on all my new accounts in about 30 days. I don't know what i can do to avoid it. DO you?

Read my post here:

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/subscri...tml#post130243

I haven't been hit with the ID verify......

thanks for the info..

There are enough sellers I know that are not having problems like these.
Because each and every account differs, comments are only comments.The thread will likely end up 4 pages long with little usuable data.
Last time (maybe). It is not what to say to ebay that is the problem. It is the account and its operation that is both problem and solution.:peace:
peace and mungbeans

1. People need to quit blaming the seller for being hit with the ID verify. NO ONE... AND I MEAN NO ONE! Has proven that you get the limit based on what you sell. I'm sick of these guys who make a living off selling accounts acting like it's not a normal process! Things change! This will soon be the norm!!

2. Yes eBay will lose money if they force this on everyone. However, they lost quadruple that potential amount when they limited sellers who could use Featured First, and other upgrades. They are missing out on hundreds of thousands in fees a day, but they don't seem to care about that, do they? eBay is infested with scamers. They can afford to lose some money if it will make it difficult for them to sell there.

3. Stop telling people to search for answers. THERE IS NO ANSWER!!!


4. I'm so sick of hearing "Well none of my accounts got limited" GREAT!!! GOOD FOR YOU! But guess what? YOU are just a hair on a boars ass in the grand scheme of things! Stop suggesting that there is no problem because YOU aren't having one.

If you're a new seller, and you start off selling a high dollar item, or if you list it in a suspicious manner, how could you suggest that has nothing to do with the ID verify?

The reason the ID verify is in place is to prevent scammers and theives. Identity theft is the number one felony committed in America today. Sure, they'll lose money in potential fees, but they'll lose even more money on the prospect of honoring buyer protection on all of the items. A normal person won't have a problem with the ID verify process. Although, a normal person also would pay a seller 500 dollars for an item when the seller has zero feedback..... I honestly don't think it's necessary.


Many people having the ID verify issue also have issues with other things. If you'll notice, nothing ever causes phone verification either, or nothing causes VERO takedowns, or nothing ever causes the plethora of other things that happens to someone that doesn't follow stealth rules.

If someone else doesn't have an issue, but you do, perhaps something is being done to trigger it. Pointing out the lack of a problem is a polite way to ask someone to look at their actions more in depth. There must be answers to a problem if many others have found a solution and don't see this as a drastic issue. The only way I've become so good at this is by reading when someone doesn't have a problem with something, looking at my actions, and determining why.

It's a forum, the idea is for all of us to share ideas and compare our experiences. If I don't have a problem with ID verify, consider that it is possible for you to not have the problem as well.

Thanks I found ANSWER on that link .. Very good info.. Now I think I know why I keep getting this id ver on my new accounts.
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http://www.aspkin.com/forums/subscri...tml#post130243

That's the point. People are getting hit without being high risk! If you sell high risk then of course you are gonna attract attention, but do you consider a 3 dollar stamp a high risk transaction?? Further more don't you find it odd that it's mostly people on this site who use bogus info are the ones being hit? When you sell on eBay for the first time, no matter what you sell, I'm sure they have a sophisticated process to review the info on your account, and if it don't smell right for any reason they will expect you to prove other wise. A stealth account is no different than a really good ⊗⊗⊗⊗ handbag. No matter how real it appears it's still ⊗⊗⊗⊗ and there are ways of spotting it.

Welp, I guess there's nothing you can do. I say we all just give up. Ah, so very frustrating....

ebay, you win:surrender:

I'm sure sooner or later they'll want blood samples faxed in.

I got a simple fix for you dont list anything that can be f a k e d then u wont have this problem Like you saying listing a $3 stamp it dose'nt matter is u list a 49c stamp over a stamp that was made in 1930 A stamp is a stamp and it will trigger a flag eather way on any new seller and there for increse the chances of begin id verfied.

And i sell accounts and i have been doing so for 6 years now and always see some one crying wolf about ebay's changes and yet we have always found ways around these so called new changes! And if your haveing problems with getting hit with id verfied then its obvise that your doing something wrong or listing something that getting you flagged cause alot of other members as well as me DONT get hit with id verfiys unless doing something to get ur self flagged.

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We'll just start another forum that focuses on making ⊗⊗⊗⊗ blood.

I'm down man. Let's do it. I wonder if that's illegal... copying DNA?

Hmmm... I just thought of a great made for tv movie idea.

Damn don't kill him ....Killa

Sell something that can't be fak'ed? Are you a complete idiot, or will you not go to any length to convince people that they wont get limited when they purchase your bogus accounts? I could copy you and show up at your mothers house for tea and crepes, and she wouldn't know the difference. There is almost nothing that can't be fak'ed. What a ridiculous statement.


HOLLY RUN-ON-SENTENCE-BATMAN! what in the long-lost-blue-hell are you talking about man? None of that made ANY sense, and riddled with grammatical errors, which is another reason why your words have very little credibility in my book.

And your point? Will this issue be resolved? Maybe, but as of now it's not. People are worried about accounts they have now.

I only got hit once. (and beat it, might I add) I got 4 accounts up now with no problems, and I'm still selling eBooks, and DVD sets, so again! You are making zero sense. Further more, lets say I was the only one on this forum having problems. The amount of people not having problems is not even remotely close to 1 percent of the registered users on eBay that may be having this problem! Life does exist outside this forum if you didn't know. That's like saying because you and your entire family live in Africa and don't have AIDS, there is no AIDS problem in Africa.

As I stated before. You have no proof of how/why accounts are being verified. Your only concern is easing the fears of potential buyers of your bogus accounts. They could buy today, and be hit tomorrow, and you have made it clear that you don't care, and wont accept any responsibility. Your days will be numbered with that attitude.

This isn't just about VERO items. I have an account from 2008 that I tested this on. Never listed anything. Never bought anything. Listed a green garden frog (totally non-VERO) and 7 minutes later it was limited.

I sell vero, but I have not been hit with this Limitation. I think that its how you use the account and how you sell on the account that triggers. big Items are going to get you noticed very quickly.

And this was on a usa account or a .KP account cause if u was on a usa account that right there meant u was eather A. useing a US account from .KP ip or B. you are useing a VPN which is risky by all means useing them on ebay and paypal cause u dont know how many other customers of that VPN service used that same VPN at one point in time. All it takes is to trigger one flag and a ebay employee will review the account and if your useing a VPN and ebay decides to do a WhoIs then thats it for that or if you used a made up address on ebay and they do this review and cant verfiy your address or if they decied to call the phone # you used on ebay and its d/c they got u. Theres a # of things that can cause you to get id verfied and its all because something u did that triggerd it in the first place.

Keep the thread on topic and quit the bickering or GB will be released.

Yeah theres no point in arguing about it. Its not a pandemic untill we have 100s or
1000s haveing the same ebay illnesses with id verfiy. And i stick by my belives which has always been right in the past and i belive/know its something these sellers did to trigger the id verfiy its simple as that there not going to verfiey every new seller and last i checked ebay wasnt doing to good stock was down to like $13 a share so could they really afford to lose this much money just to keep a few scammers off there site in return most there revenue comes from these scammers and illegal do'ers in the first place with the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ goods begin sold.

How about we discuss the original discussion and leave the fighting to pm's

Only reason I got hit with a id verify on only one of my accounts. But that was due to my stupidity. I listed 5 items right off the bat and I bought cheap items to raise my feedback. That caused me to get the id verify, but SINCE I have learned from my mistakes, I never got the id verify again!

Yeah what happen was the stuff u sold was high risk then when ebay reviewed your account they seen u bought cheap items to gain quick feedback and there for they wanted to id verfiy u cause they suspected u was a stelth user.

Only reason there doing id verfiys is because they know alot of use use stelth accounts and they trying to catch the people useing stelth by makeing them verfiy there identy. They know unless we got good PS skills and are good at making f a k e ids that we the stelth user wont be able to verfiy there id as to a legit person would.

Its not about people scamming! Its not about people selling knock offs! Its about keeping the banned user off ebay for good.

Well, I so far opened 2 new stealth account and in both account I did get the Id Verification. I started just selling vinyl sticker. Mine were not vero items.

First account I open I listed 10 items for sale on auction after it was done waited 2 weeks before I listed again and in the second time i listed I got verified. I got lucky and passed the verification....

The Second time I got verification I got it from posting my first item for sale. The moment i posted the item I got the called and managed to pass the ID verification...

That's my story....Process of opening another one, lets c what happens....

People getting this notification, are the addresses you are using valid?

These vinyl stickers what logo where they? Like lets say u list a ed hardy sticker! even though its not a VeRO item cause its a sticker it still contains the word Ed Hardy which is highly VeRO so it dosent matter if ur selling non vero items if it has anything to do with a VeRO item in any way it will get flagged just as if u was selling them Ed Hardy hats for $900 a pop.

I go to whitepages and get real addresses. I only change the name of the person....

You know you are right with the sticker. They are names. Next time when I open another one I will just add sticker of like images of animals and see what happens there....

Yeah cause u can use pics with the VeRO names instead of saying it in the listing cause i dont think there system to flag out VeRO through photos

DBK that's great advice. I never thought of that.

I tried to list a dvd in the past called the devil wears parada i could only list 1 at a time it took me a bit to figer out what it was it was cause the moive had the word parada in it which is VeRO even though it was a moive and had nothing to do with selling parada so i had to miss spell parada just to list more then one at a time.