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Guys anyone know can ebay track our MAC address to link our accounts each other.I know cookies and IP is important but didn't understand if MAC address is trackable..
Thanks in advance

From reading forums and understanding, eb ay does not track MAC - yet.

The only way Ebay can see your MAC address is if your comuter was directly connected the their server. They can only see the MAC address of the routers they have to connect to direct traffic to the internet. To get an idea of how many routers lie between you and Ebay, open command prompt and enter 'tracert ebay.com'.

My understanding is that ebay doesnt not track your MAC address. However amazon does.

I tried command prompt and there were lots of routers between us with ebay.So it means they cant track?I think you mean there must be one router to be trackable our MAC address.But If we think so and if its correct how amazon can track there is a paradox. And if ebay can't and amazon can do it there is one explanation that ebay don't have this support.

How was it determined that Amazon tracks MAC addresses?

so that is a best new i heard here...

i try to change mac ip some times.but never get.

than that open cause my network down.

it is realy good news!

Not even Amazon can track MAC addresses. Not unless you allow them to run a Java applet or something of that sort on your computer. It can't even be tracked with Flash.

^ to the above.

How do you know this? and why would so many other forum members state that they definatly can? are they wrong?

regards

They could be wrong indeed. I have a basic understanding of TCP/IP and I think the only way for them to get your MAC address is if it was sent as data. For this to happen there would have to be software running on your PC that would send it.

I've been a network technician and programmer for many years. There are ways to get a MAC address, but it would need to be done with a Java applet or some sort of program running on the person's machine that sends the information.

Only the "hop" next to you can see the MAC address. Your Internet Service Provider (ISP) can see it, but the next hop already can't. When you send a website request, it goes through around 8-12 hops on average. If you're in the UK and eBay is in California, it goes through hops located in the UK, US East Coast, then through several major cities until it gets to California. Nobody can see your MAC address except the one right next to you, which is almost always your ISP, and certainly not eBay. For eBay to see your MAC address, you would have to be in the same building as eBay.

And I'm not aware of eBay running any Java applets on anyone's computer. And with Flash it can't be done either. Flash has no networking capabilities to that extent.

So yes, it's an "Urban Myth".

^ Amazing info :thumb:

Please let this be because they would be looking over your shoulder :pry:

:lol:

Top stuff thanks for the info.

I dont sell on amazon so ive never had issues with my MAC address however I guess it will help alot of people messing about with theirs and not to waste their time with it :amen:

Ebay not track the modem's Mac address,but amazon is.
setup a new virtual pc ,use a private proxy ...that's all,you can sell on a new ebay account.

I'd love to see someone explain to me how Amazon can read your MAC address.

me too.....

@imintrance you said about virtual machine... You will not have any linking from the installed operating system to the virtual machine's operating system.
I am not a geek....but i am nit with the virtual machine. I suppose that it is impossible to link them together if you will respect the instructions.

I can't explain how amazon traces your Mac address but I can confirm that they linked all 10 accounts through my phone Mac address. So they must be able to somehow. And yes that is the only possible way they linked my accounts. They didn't even send me a linked email, just straight robbed them and deleted them

Nice one imjustme - very nice one indeed - thanks a lot!!:yar:

I am using zebra LP 2844 to print out shipping labels, the label printer requires Java app in order to print from ebay/paypal. Does that mean ebay/paypal see my MAC address every time I print shipping labels?

^^

To the guy above about the zebra, I think you can just save it as a pdf and print it can't you?

Nobody can see your MAC address on the Internet. Only a pc on the same LAN as yours can see your MAC address,includes people sharing WiFi with you.

The MAC-address is part of the OSI Network Model. It's only used for communication in your local network, be it cabled or wireless.
MAC definitely gets lost is when it passes your router, the router only transmits the IP packet to "the Internet".

When connecting to the internet your router will not use your computers, but its own MAC address to forward the packets.

This switchy bit happens on all routing points, so your ISP will take your packet get the IP packet out and put it into another MAC packet and so on.

If you are using IPv6 it might be possible that your IP Address can be generated using parts of your computers MAC address and then its feasible.

Disable IPv6 if you feel paranoid.

If you read about NSA spying on us folk then its the help of the Embedded chip manufactures and ISP's and software O/S producers that pass on and allow undetectable 3 party access to our communications.

Did anyone read about " smart bins" in London streets that detect your Smartphone when you get close the bins read your smartphone data and provide a customise advert that runs on the LCD side panels when you pass it?

So if you were say looking for a Caribbean cruise on your smartphone the bin would know and show you an advert related....hehehe all without the users consent! or knowledge.

Personally I dont use smartphones/I-phones/Tablets especially with Android or Apple O/S for very reasons stated from day 1 that they were on sale.

Anything Linux pisses NSA off! and anyone else looking to creep into your private world :-)

I was in high level data comms for routing internet and encrypted data over satellite and terrestrial networks is how I know about MAC.

We used the VBI for transporting if any techies are interested how.
yep simple no overload on signal when carried.

Just wondering what relevance of this statement?

ah just pointing out we dont always know what info we share unaware until someone shares an experience

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Seems like a very relevant comment to me.. I don't care much for smart phones myself, though my wife has a couple.. I have none, though I have sold them.

Leave work at home so you don't have customers calling you when you are out and about.. Sort of annoying..

And of course they will be used as an advertising mechanism and such.. And worse if our government ever takes a dive for the worst.

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my understanding is that ebay can get and read your MAC address :)

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I don't believe either company can ascertain your MAC, unless like stated above a java applet is being employed by your system

I took a network connectivity course when I attended ITT and there's way too many hops to be even remotely close to their servers

I'd say we're all safe, for now..

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No not true on this

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Thanks for this info. I use a lot of macs here at the office. I was curious If i had to switch everything out.

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Neither Amazon or Ebay can see your MAC address

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2007 ebay is can see our MAC id without java aplication,right now 2015...ebay can see

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can you expand a bit more detail on how ? What do EB do to achieve this?

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MAC can be revealed only by running a Java or other app, that runs outside your browser, so EB itself can't see your MAC. Actually, noone can see your MAC, except a nearby computer, that is connected to your computer with a direct UTP cable. But! Technically, Auctivia or TurboLister apps can send your MAC to EB, but noone knows for sure, and doing reverse engineering on these apps "just for fun" is a huge overkill.

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In 2007, JavaScript had more access to system properties. It was highly abused, so modern browsers cant read low-level system info.

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Interesting, can someone answer this.

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you say....Auctivia or TurboLister apps can send your MAC to EB, I agree any 3rd party app like these might, so the safe way is never use EB apps.

A reliable MAC changer I use is TMAC V6.0 and its free :-)

To be clear Im not stating TMAC will help with EB apps to hide MAC but where you need to change a MAC it does the job well.

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I think if you add that as long as you are not using any of their apps then there is NO chance they can track the MAC.

Its like downloading say a financial calculator on your PC from the government to help to make your tax returns.......do you really trust its only a calculator???

NO EB / PP apps = No Chance of seeing your MAC

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Very risky practise if you have something to hide like a MAC and if Im correct they have remote java scripting access, but I have not used these apps nor would I. EB/PP could be a potential trojan horse to get MAC and other info as you allow permissions to run apps on your PC.

I use the phrase Trojan loosely to describe allowing a 3rd party app to run on your system. You install they collect? ALL very feasible in my eyes.

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To date, eB has not been known to track MAC address.

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Plenty of info on here that neither platform can see MAC addresses, the platforms are just not developed enough to be able to do that, and they never will be able to do in our lifetimes and that is absolutely 100% all that matters.