My thoughts and problems related to the stealth account

[daniel001]

Hi,

First my option is to create stealth account. But, I can create everything but i can't verify eBay (when I want sell something) and verify pp to withdraw money. When You tray to sell something on eBay they want to werife by

- phone call (only home phone works, mobile won't work)
- by post (in stealth account that possibility fall out)
- by credit card (but which card? VCC? with my real name etc. it will not work)

To withdraw money from pp they want verife by bank transfer (no can do it with my real name, adresses etc.) or to add credit card also will not work beacouse there are my real evidence.

Second chocie to buy stealth account

How I can withdraw money? I'm from Poland, add bank account will not work beacouse It's account created in Polish bank. If I send money to other stealth account created for example by me I cant withdraw money beacouse I can't verife pp.

Also I hear VPN's and proxies are not good to change localiztion, why vps is ok?

[rsot]

How do you normally verify P ay pa l in Poland then is my first question.

[daniel001]

By adding credit/debet card. When You add it, they took 6,5 zl (polish currency) and in the id of this transaction You get code that You write into your pp.

I check again and pp give another option.
They transfer You some random amount and when You get it on Your bank account You must write in this ammount in pp. This may be work

But it not resolve problem with listening items on ebay.

[rsot]

To list item on eb ay you FIRST need to verify your pa yp al. That's a big step.

[ShadyOne]

VCC? with my real name etc. it will not work

No. Use your PayPal details for the VCC.

By adding credit/debet card. When You add it, they took 6,5 zl (polish currency) and in the id of this transaction You get code that You write into your pp.

I check again and pp give another option.
They transfer You some random amount and when You get it on Your bank account You must write in this ammount in pp. This may be work

This is how it works for us!

[daniel001]

I check and find out that in Poland it can be create VCC card. Theoretically, everything should go. I still have one question before I start working. What is the best idea to hide my IP? I can use the stealth guides but I read somewhere on the forum that started to block something. What is best to use?

[Imakemoney]

Hiding your IP is not a good idea ebay dont like this sort of software.

Ideally you should get a ISP that provides you with a dynamic IP so each time you restart your router you get a new IP.

Or you could look into 3G dongles which also give you a new IP each time.

Or you could look at dial-up but obviously this would be slower.

In regards looking for ebay sellers no deals like this can be done on this forum for all forum users safety so please dont advertise your services.

[ShadyOne]

Hiding your IP is not a good idea ebay dont like this sort of software.

On this subject, a lot of public places actually hide their real IP address, so if you are using a public network and notice such things as the IP never changes. It does not always mean it is static but may in fact mean it is being hidden.

I think it may be because they use proxy servers.

Here is a great 'what is my IP site' that included more detail on whether your IP is being hidden:

http://www.ipaddresslocation.org/

[daniel001]

Ok, but one user also have information that he lokking for eBay seller.

I check it:

My Hostname (DNS Lookup)
**-**-***-***.dynamic.******.pl

Proxy Server Detection:
No Proxy detected or you use High Anonymous Proxy

What does it mean for me?

[ShadyOne]

Proxy Server Detection:
No Proxy detected or you use High Anonymous Proxy

I think this means you are not using a proxy to hide your IP, which is normal if this is your home network, I think very few ISP's use proxy's to hide your real IP.

I tested this today at a local library I had used in the past for stealth and it said something like:

IP Address - 111.111.11.1

Proxy Server Detection:
Real IP Address - 222.222.22.2

I am not to sure which of the two that e Bay actually sees as some forum users say they can see the real one when your ISP uses a proxy and some say that e Bay can not see it and only see the proxy IP.

My Hostname (DNS Lookup)
**-**-***-***.dynamic.******.pl

This will be your ISP.

[daniel001]

OK, but what now...?

I will prapobly go to inernet cafe and there create everything, for future I will maybe use some internet provider wiitch gave new IP everytime.

[ShadyOne]

I will prapobly go to inernet cafe and there create everything, for future I will maybe use some internet provider wiitch gave new IP everytime.

Did you mean to say wiitch with that avatar? If so, that worked for me

Well anyway, I think the general consensus is that hiding yout IP is not recommended as ebay may frown down upon you, then you have to to them.

My point was just that some public internet services hide their IP, I provided a method for you to find the real IP address, though I have yet found out if e Bay can see the real hidden IP

Seeming as you have no control over public networks and cannot change the IP it is best to do this at home and use a new Static IP for your account or dynamic IP that you can change for each account.

[daniel001]

Originally Posted by ShadyOne

Did you mean to say wiitch with that avatar? If so, that worked for me

Hehehe, nice one, :D. Sorry for my bad spelling.

So like I told before, make all of it on other computer and for future will gain provider which gave dynamic IP that I can change for each account.

Thank's for helping

P.S. That witch is Saluste charcter from movie " La Folie des grandeurs"

[ShadyOne]

So like I told before, make all of it on other computer and for future will gain provider which gave dynamic IP that I can change for each account.

Yes, it is Ok making your first lot of stealth accounts on a public/wifi network, it is not as stealth as having your own network but as you are looking at getting an ISP with dynamic IP addresses then all is good

You must be aware that each account that you create on public networks can be linked to each other easily so if one goes the other can follow, also you are using a network that is likely to have many other e Bay accounts logging in and some may have been suspended.

Make sure that whatever wifi hotspot you go to, you have NEVER been there and logged into one of your old suspended e Bay accounts!!! If you have, find another place.

Has anyone else got any tips for someone who has to use a public network for stealth?

[daniel001]

Ok, stealth accout created. Everything goes smooth. If anyone have probles to do this in Poland fell free to conatct me by PM.

Thanks everyone for helping. Now I'm back to business :D