Chinese Sellers Immunity?

HurricaneHuntr · #1 08-24-2011

0 feedback sellers selling obvious ⊗⊗⊗⊗.. created accounts back in oct 2010 and they are spamming gogogadjets for sale . even duplicate fixed listings and never get taken down...

I wonder what is up with that?

JRYAN34 · #2 08-24-2011

same reason chinese sellers get away with selling 10,000+ boxsets of dvd with 5,000+ feedback. they also pay significantly less in fees. do the math and and an average of $80 a boxset x 700 a month = $56,000 in f a k e dvds a month.

Hrad · #3 08-24-2011

In my experience those guys go down pretty fast, at least in the market I'm in.

Jack Alope · #4 08-24-2011

eBay is so full of sh%t,...sending out emails stating, "to ensure a safe trading environment for you and the ebay community" and then turning a blind eye to china...

i'm thinking about buying a **** copy of Rosetta Stone-Mandarin Chinese, learning how to speak and write chinese and opening up all future accounts as a china user. then, i too, can get in on all the non-scrutinized action.

it is my opinion, that if ebay was serious about keeping their system safe and "clean" they would restrict questionable china users to just selling in china, but wait,...then i couldn't get a $120 copy of P90X for $26...lol

Disclaimer: no intended offense to reputable chinese users...if you are one of the ones that are pumping sh#t through the system, then it is what it is...

BiN4RY · #5 08-24-2011

These guys are merely running turn and burn accounts. Their listing + accounts will be nuked in a few days.

rsot · #6 08-24-2011

Fairly simple to do when you have dozens of peeps working for you - opening and moving your stuff. Most of us - well, I will simply speak for myself - are 1-2 man/woman/it ops...

JRYAN34 · #7 08-24-2011

eBay China has significantly different rules and regulations. Its a F U C K I N G joke if you ask me. They are selling on usa sites, so they should be following usa rules. If a chinese person travels to the usa, they still have to follow the laws, so online should be no different.

HurricaneHuntr · #8 08-24-2011

turn and burn meaning sell as much as possible then wait 6 months and take whatever you end up getting back after chargebacks etc?

JRYAN34 · #9 08-24-2011

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Originally Posted by Moscutter

turn and burn meaning sell as much as possible then wait 6 months and take whatever you end up getting back after chargebacks etc?

obvious.....and btw turn and burn accounts are a joke

Sandy D · #10 08-24-2011

They go down real quick but not before they scam tons of people and keep their money too.

I have paid for many items from China and never got them and then get the dreaded sorry they dont have any money in their account to refund you with.

I believe many get immunity from eb. If you notice many Chinese sellers have horrific feedback and yet they are left alone.

GreenBean · #11 08-24-2011

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Originally Posted by Moscutter

turn and burn meaning sell as much as possible then wait 6 months and take whatever you end up getting back after chargebacks etc?

HaHa! Only if the T&S chaps decide to let the funds be released.

November last year I was aware of over $3 million being held for ever and ever amen by paypal. Was a cartel of newbies who got done.

doughboykilla · #12 08-24-2011

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Originally Posted by GreenBean™

November last year I was aware of over $3 million being held for ever and ever amen by paypal.

Sounds like a bunch of Pp employs got some nice game share checks last year

BiN4RY · #13 08-24-2011

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Originally Posted by Moscutter

turn and burn meaning sell as much as possible then wait 6 months and take whatever you end up getting back after chargebacks etc?

Pretty much, yeah.

methrift · #14 08-25-2011

I've been trying to get a chinese user booted off ebay for the longest time now, his user ID is "hi-etech" (check this guy's feedback for a laugh) this guy has been turning and not burning for the longest time, he has 189 negs for this month alone, funny thing was, I bought something from him for 8 bucks and it took 2 weeks to get to me, I thought I was not getting it according to his 15 negs a day feedback, so I called ebay about 7 times on this guy to report his questionable at most selling practices. Ebay said they would investigate it. I asked them how they consider their company trustworthy when they have china sellers doing this to everyone. They wound up suspending my account for the complaints.

BTW looks as tho ebay is shutting down their forums in Sept, I guess their idea of having forums so they don't have to have customer service backfired on them!. lol The shareholders must have gotten real upset for them allowing people to write bad things about them on their own site. It's like me going outside my restaurant and telling people not to eat at my own place. What idiots. How in the hell did they think that was going to work?

yotano211 · #15 08-25-2011

I looked up this seller and the dude got 19k positive feedback for the entire month. 189 negative feedback out of 19k is still pretty good. The dude does huge volume sales. I hate to say but he still has a 99% positive rate.

And of course eb-ay is not going to shut this guy down, he brings in huge amounts of $$$ to eb-ay.

HurricaneHuntr · #16 08-25-2011

19k /189 is pretty good lol

rsot · #17 08-25-2011

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They wound up suspending my account for the complaints.

You can't really mess around with these big these sellers.

slapped · #18 08-25-2011

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Originally Posted by methrift

I've been trying to get a chinese user booted off ebay for the longest time now, his user ID is "hi-etech" (check this guy's feedback for a laugh) this guy has been turning and not burning for the longest time, he has 189 negs for this month alone, funny thing was, I bought something from him for 8 bucks and it took 2 weeks to get to me, I thought I was not getting it according to his 15 negs a day feedback, so I called ebay about 7 times on this guy to report his questionable at most selling practices. Ebay said they would investigate it. I asked them how they consider their company trustworthy when they have china sellers doing this to everyone. They wound up suspending my account for the complaints.

BTW looks as tho ebay is shutting down their forums in Sept, I guess their idea of having forums so they don't have to have customer service backfired on them!. lol The shareholders must have gotten real upset for them allowing people to write bad things about them on their own site. It's like me going outside my restaurant and telling people not to eat at my own place. What idiots. How in the hell did they think that was going to work?

Why do you want to shut this Guy Down?,,,There is NOTHING Wrong with the way that this Guy is handeling his Business,,,,Ebay was Correct to Shut YOU Down,,,What has this Guy done to YOU?,,,you do not like him because he is Chinese?,,,Because it took a Long time to get your Order?,,WHY?,,,,

I Not only think that you should have lost your Ebay account,,,I also think that you should be SKINNED!!!

Sandy D · #19 08-25-2011

What goes around comes around.

Trying to boot your competition will come back to bite you.

The best way to beat your competition is to be smarter then they are with your marketing etc.

boszika · #20 08-25-2011

It is also a big difference if the seller is in mainland China or Hong Kong. Hong Kong sellers can get away with anything.

BiN4RY · #21 08-25-2011

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Originally Posted by boszika

It is also a big difference if the seller is in mainland China or Hong Kong. Hong Kong sellers can get away with anything.

No they cannot, and it doesn't make a difference to ebay whether if you're from Hong Kong, China, USA, UK, or Antarctica when it comes to selling counterfeits and vero goods.

boszika · #22 08-25-2011

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Originally Posted by BiN4RY

No they cannot, and it doesn't make a difference to ebay whether if you're from Hong Kong, China, USA, UK, or Antarctica when it comes to selling counterfeits and vero goods.

So please I need an explanation for HK sellers who sell makeup for years. Try that in China,you would be shut down. Try that in the US, you will be

What they sell real makeup?