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Originally Posted by GTB @resilient
welcome to the forum bro/sis
great input so far man |
GTB,
thanks for the kind words, it's a bro by the way. As someone who recently lost a couple of EB Pwr Sller (non-stealth) high volume accts (maybe the problem was right there, why would you want to become a Pwr Sller, to attract more attention?!?!, talking about being paranoid...lol), I consider myself to be with extensive EB experience (as in selling, buying, finding deals, using tools like Auctiva, timing of auctions, descriptions, etc...) and Stealth experience close to NONE (as in staying under the radar)! So I'll be happy to share what I know and even happier to learn everything I possibly can about Stealth (the book is my new bible, but I'm sure we'll all agree it only scratches the surface hence the need for this forum and all the good men/gals on it).
OK, back to the topic. I did some research today and this is what I found. Basicly, there are 2 types of email clients: system based(run on your PC- Thunderbird, Outloock, etc.) and web based (run on a server- YahooMail, Gmail, Hotmail, etc.). Of course you can set up access to all your web based accts through your system based clients (but this will give your IP away even if the web based acct, accessed directly, hides it).
The first type will always give your real IP away because they use either SMTP or POP protocols which require originator's address (this is where the advantage of some web based clients is: your PC is not the originator, the server is, so they don't have to disclose your IP, although some have chosen to-Yahoo for example). Thunderbird even goes a step further, it discloses your internal IP as well, the one that your router assigned to your PC (which only makes it easier for the hackers, but this is a different topic, talking about invasion of privacy, hey!!!), check it if you don't believe me. The advantage the system based clients offer is that you can access all your email accts through one client (easy management, etc.), but you will most certainly be LINKED!
The second type, as mentioned above, are hosted on a web server, so although you are typing your email on your PC, it originates from the server once sent. Nevertheless, Yahoo still discloses your real IP (DO NOT USE Yahoo to reply directly to buyers!!!), but Gmail DOES NOT, Hotmail I haven't checked.
I only use Gmail with EB so the following is only Gmail related. If a buyer sends you a question, you have two options to reply. The first one is to click on the RESPOND link which takes you to EB and you have to log in. Obviously if you do this on 2 accts using the same IP they will be linked. The second one is to reply through your email directly, which means that log into EB is not required but the buyer will still receive the reply. At present Gmail does not disclose your real IP (Yahoo DOES) in the Full Header of the email, which SHOULD mean that EB simply can't see your real IP. Please DYOR
You may(or may not) find the following links helpful:
Can GMail be traced? How can I trace where email came from?
Of particular interest:
''When you use a web-based mail program, such as GMail or MSN HotMail, you're not actually sending mail from your machine at all. You're using your browser to interact with a service that they provide on their servers. When you finally press send, the mail originates on the service's server, not your computer. If you take a look at the email headers for a message sent from a service such as GMail, you'll see only GMail servers and the servers required to deliver the message to its destination.''
This is how you view your Full Headers in Gmail:
1. Log in to Gmail
2. Open the message you'd like to view headers for.
3. Click the down arrow next to Reply, at the top of the message pane.
4. Select Show Original.
I sent several emails from/to different Gmail accounts I have, and my real IP is nowhere to be seen in the Full Headers. Please DYOR
The inconvenience of being logged into several Gmail accts at the same time is that you will need to run 5 different browsers (as one browser supports only one login at a time). I believe that Firefox has a plug-in to make it possible on the same browser, and Chrome has the incognito windows, so not a problem. Of course the best solution to this is offered by Gmail itself. You can find it at the following link:
How to Login To Multiple Gmail Accounts Simultaneously From The Same Browser | All About Websites
The bottom line, in my humble opinion is,
if you only receive an occasional email you are probably better off swapping routers/changing MACs/changing user accts on you PC etc. But if you have tons of stealth accounts which receive tons of buyer emails you may want to consider all the above. Once again, please Do Your Own Research as I don't want to be accused of having other people's stealth accounts linked. All comments and additional tips will be highly appreciated...