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LoopHole 02-01-2012 05:31 PM

Why is my competition such a holes?
 
Ok so there only about 3 or 4 of us that sell this one item. Never had a problem with them until now. Got hit with the MC999. Its great how i got this when my items are 10000000% authentic. In the message it says that i have been reported by MULTIPLE members for " SUSPICION" that my items might not be authentic. But there are no strikes or anything towards my account.

Its great how eba*y removes your listings and tells you not to relist them or you will face consequences JUST because other members reported you. It really pisses me off how they ONLY SUSPECT they are not real but have no proof nor ASK for it........

Is it even worth calling eb*y to get this straightened out? Anyone else been in this situation that can give some quality advice?

FandangoKango 02-01-2012 05:43 PM

You can call and ebay will tell you good or bad, but if your accounts get reported multiple times by sellers/buyers then your history. You and I both know ebay are really bit^^^.

nebuspp 02-01-2012 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoopHole (Post 308066)
Ok so there only about 3 or 4 of us that sell this one item. Never had a problem with them until now. Got hit with the MC999. Its great how i got this when my items are 10000000% authentic. In the message it says that i have been reported by MULTIPLE members for " SUSPICION" that my items might not be authentic. But there are no strikes or anything towards my account.

Its great how eba*y removes your listings and tells you not to relist them or you will face consequences JUST because other members reported you. It really pisses me off how they ONLY SUSPECT they are not real but have no proof nor ASK for it........

Is it even worth calling eb*y to get this straightened out? Anyone else been in this situation that can give some quality advice?

If it was me, I would call them and ask how you can prove to them that your items are 100% authentic.

If they tell you how, then do it.
If they don't, just list the item on another account.
If you get another MC999, eRape your competitions listings. :deadhorse:

C.Japschin 02-01-2012 05:48 PM

You are lucky that you don't have strikes against your accounts. My competitors were super holes, I had so many listings taken down and they are counted as strikes. My stuffs have COAs.
I called EB when I finally got the msg that if I received 1 more strike, suspension. But what i got was, "There were reports on your listings, hence, we have to take action for the buyers' protection and to uphold EB's reputation."
This was first week of Jan.
It could be I'm just unlucky.:pout:

GTB 02-01-2012 05:57 PM

fight fire with fire,its simple

but what if you are wrong and it was not them who reported them:noidea:

Thankful 02-01-2012 06:05 PM

Come on now GTB, two wrongs don't make a right lol. I guess you could but it would turn into a cycle were it just carries even you if come back on another account, i have tried it everyone ends up losing you'd be forced to sell something else instead.

Both your competion are too blame aswell as ebay for not giving anyone a chance to actually prove whether something is authentic.

Defo try to call ebay and explain your products are authentic and you suspect its competition trying to drag you down, you get some nice ones who pick up the phone sometimes worth a try!!

GreenBean 02-01-2012 06:09 PM

@loophole


Introduce yourself to this site.

http://tabberone.com

This should be the go-to-bible for these situations. =}-

Loo for a thread made by ebaykilla MC019 defense . (Soz too busy to do the URL)

There's enough there to make a reply

LoopHole 02-01-2012 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 308092)
@loophole


Introduce yourself to this site.

Tabberone. Great fabrics and collectibles.

This should be the go-to-bible for these situations. =}-

Look for a thread made by ebaykilla MC019 defense . (Soz too busy to do the URL)

There's enough there to make a reply

GB i am so lost and confused by that website you have no idea. What is this place? How in the world do i find a thread on this website?????

LoopHole 02-01-2012 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTB (Post 308082)
fight fire with fire,its simple

but what if you are wrong and it was not them who reported them:noidea:


Please believe that i will fight fire with fire. I am bringing a flamethrower to this fight....... The reason i know it was them was because like i said it is only about 3-4 of us selling this item. And it BLUNTLY said in the message " Your listing was brought to our attention by multiple members of the community who reported it for suspicion of authenticity". This is not a v3ro item. So i don't have to worry about them. The account is 100fb + 100% positive. 50 of these transactions are from the buyers who are absolutely 100% satisfied with this item. Some of the comments are even "100% authentic great seller" ect. Im 100% sure regular buyers would not report me for selling an authentic item. I NEVER had a dispute or ANY return on this item. It HAS to be my competition doing this. There is no other explanation for this.

Thankful 02-01-2012 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTB (Post 308101)
tanxful

little scenario for you...........

here we go...you have worked on your account for 2 years,700 positive,no takedowns..no disputes etc

then just coz this guy is greedy...... he reports your listings as vero to create more sales for himself

and he managed to get your account banned

what would be your reaction....and would you of wished you fought back which mite of put them off as you gave them a taste of their own:noidea:


I understand were your coming from completly, but the thing is 3/4 guys are also selling it, you really have no idea who it was so you take them all down? report all their listings? its impossible to tell who done it and rather unfair if you report all of them wouldn't you say? Dangerous game really, Yeah they ruin your life, but you ruin 3/4 lifes in return? who may not have been involved.

Tough call....

GTB 02-01-2012 06:32 PM

very good and valid point bud

its a very tough call

i couldn't do it without proof

it defeats the object of why you are doing it

Thankful 02-01-2012 06:41 PM

It all boils down to ebays stupid system really and truly, if they had a more efficient system when reports come in and the seller perhaps having to prove his/her items were authentic, we wouldn't be fighting like this, unfortunately i doubt this will happen, hungry money monsters! no care for sellers.

Perhaps we'll come up with a better solution ourselves one day, we need an inside man working with ebay!! lool hmmm given me an idea now actually...

LoopHole 02-01-2012 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tanxful (Post 308111)
I understand were your coming from completly, but the thing is 3/4 guys are also selling it, you really have no idea who it was so you take them all down? report all their listings? its impossible to tell who done it and rather unfair if you report all of them wouldn't you say? Dangerous game really, Yeah they ruin your life, but you ruin 3/4 lifes in return? who may not have been involved.

Tough call....

Read my post above..... and to add to it. This item sells faster and has the best profit margin that i have ever had. It is only a couple of us selling this item. I used one day auctions on this item and it was way too long for it. I wish there were like 3 hour auctions for it. That's how good and fast this item sells. Even if us 4 listed 50 of this item a day as 1 day auctions we would have MORE than enough bidders and buyers to buy our items. It would not change a thing. We are not even considered " competition" towards each other. Because no matter how much or how fast the other one sells this item it would not effect his sales. This is how GREEDY these sellers are.

GreenBean 02-01-2012 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoopHole (Post 308102)
GB i am so lost and confused by that website you have no idea. What is this place? How in the world do i find a thread on this website?????

FFS, there is a LARGE BOX with words like copyright etc etc.

Tab has all the info there.

By thread I meant HERE on this forum.

A thread made by the user ebayilla.

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/vero/97...hallenged.html

:argue: :argue: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :FF: :FF:

LoopHole 02-01-2012 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTB (Post 308115)
BTW,i dont like and never have give someone a neg/or left anything but 5 star ratings (i think) just coz i do not want to mess things up for a fellow seller

so for me to do that i would need to investigate to find out the real culprit and be 99% sure twas him/her/them,then i would go for the kill

maybe its just one out of the three and he has done it to the other two as-well

See that is the thing. The 2 or 3 sellers are completely fine. And they list this item at different times. Its like they are working together with each other or its just one person with multiple accounts.

If its anyone on this forum STOP BEING A GREEDY and leave me alone..... let me make some money too.... and if its anyone on this forum i am coming after you! Just giving u a heads up.

GreenBean 02-01-2012 06:47 PM

Back to your corners thanks. :nono:

GTB 02-01-2012 06:47 PM

multiple accounts,never thought of that bro

you do right bro,either fight or run away,i know what i would have to do:fight:

greebean is going to arrest me now for in encouraging ebay violence

GreenBean 02-01-2012 06:49 PM

TIMEOUT :boink:

LoopHole 02-01-2012 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 308128)
TIMEOUT :boink:

haha no worries GB.... no more violent talk :)

Thankful 02-01-2012 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 308128)
TIMEOUT :boink:

Ok were done lol!

LoopHole 02-01-2012 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 308118)
FFS, there is a LARGE BOX with words like copyright etc etc.

Tab has all the info there.

By thread I meant HERE on this forum.

A thread made by the user ebayilla.

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/vero/97...hallenged.html

:argue: :argue: :deadhorse: :deadhorse: :FF: :FF:

Thanks for that link. I feel stupid, i thought you meant look for that thread on the site you gave me. But this part really made me laugh....

--------------------------
Me:

Ok but the item is legitimate and not counterfeit or unauthorized. What else must I do to prove this?



ebay:

Thank you for writing eBay in regard to item xxxxxx that was removed.

Please understand that eBay isn't in a position to judge the
authenticity of items that sellers list on the site. Your listing was
removed because it contained some questionable content.

-- Important --
Because repeated violations of eBay policy may lead to listing
cancellation, limits on account privileges, and suspension, I recommend
that you review the eBay Replica, Counterfeit Items and Unauthorized
Copies policy here:
Replica, Counterfeit Items and Unauthorized Copies

If you need further assistance, please don't hesitate to reply to this
email and let us know.

Sincerely,
Jeff D.

eBay Customer Support
------------------------------------

Thankful 02-01-2012 06:55 PM

though if someone did report you and it's only 3/4 sellers who sell it they most prob reported the others too, there mabye only one left selling it soon, which will prob be the culprit.

Just a thought... if you wait it out abit

GTB 02-01-2012 07:03 PM

wait it out for this rouge to take him out completely

i think loopy knows the score

its a shame that you are put in this position in the first place but

Artann 02-07-2012 10:27 PM

Wow slow down for a second and think about it before you start a war and everyone including you gets hurt!
As far as i know ebay considers those kindof reports only for buyers. Which kind of makes sense. Someone needs to own this item in order to report that it might be foofoo.
If ebay says that there were multiple reports it doesn't really mean that there werre MULTIPLE. It could be a simple stupid email from one buyers that even could post a positive feedback or no feedback at all sending an email to ebay saying that it didn't work or if you are not sure if it is authentic based on so and so.

I'm just saying that you should think twice before you start a war. AS you sad yourself there is only 3-4 of you guys selling that item. You guys just gonna kill each other accounts and possibly raise red flags on this item and get ebay to keep closer look on this item!.

And this is a BIG one! IF you guys wanna kill each other and kill the item that sells so well why don't you just tell me what it is?))))_:bounce:

Sandy D 02-07-2012 11:22 PM

If the competition takes you out over and over again then you have to do something.

I have an account that had this issue and I believe I know who is causing the problems because they are all buyers from states in and close to Missouri.

How odd is that someone from 2-3 states buys items and sends almost the exact same message?

I cannot prove of course they are trying to take this account down but I know in my heart that this is the same person who thinks they are going to take away the business in this area.

Not going to happen.....

They might as well give up.....

Marketing tells me to start listing items in groups at a wholesale price to combat their almost free giveaways.

Selling 20.00 items for 0.01 all day long wont last long with no profits, but since I cannot prove it is this person I will just fight fire with fire and take away 90% of his customers.

People like this push me to think and when I think I do not lose. :fight:

I would find a way to fight them through marketing, gimmicks, offer something with it as an incentive etc to take away their business.

rsot 02-08-2012 09:56 AM

@GB, how did you come across that website?

Sandy D 02-08-2012 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 310357)
@GB, how did you come across that website?

She likes cats???

vigilantex69 02-09-2012 03:56 PM

I know the feeling. I sold a couple of autographed items I got at one of the primaries and a jerk off **** seller kept reporting me to Ebay. The **** even emailed my buyers telling them they were ⊗⊗⊗⊗ and to report me. They were 100% authentic, I even posted pictures of the signing. Hell, I only sold two autographed items in a year! Low and behold, two weeks later, I just got my suspension email that they were banning me yesterday. This is a year old account with perfect feedback. Would anyone be interested in helping me getting the other guy banned as well? I am beyond furious right now. I'd pay money if someone could get him kicked off the site as well. Any takers???

robsut 02-09-2012 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoopHole (Post 308131)
Thanks for that link. I feel stupid, i thought you meant look for that thread on the site you gave me. But this part really made me laugh....

--------------------------
Me:

Ok but the item is legitimate and not counterfeit or unauthorized. What else must I do to prove this?



ebay:

Thank you for writing eBay in regard to item xxxxxx that was removed.

Please understand that eBay isn't in a position to judge the
authenticity of items that sellers list on the site. Your listing was
removed because it contained some questionable content.

-- Important --
Because repeated violations of eBay policy may lead to listing
cancellation, limits on account privileges, and suspension, I recommend
that you review the eBay Replica, Counterfeit Items and Unauthorized
Copies policy here:
Replica, Counterfeit Items and Unauthorized Copies

If you need further assistance, please don't hesitate to reply to this
email and let us know.

Sincerely,
Jeff D.

eBay Customer Support
------------------------------------

i will tell you this much, if you start reporting you competitors for selling it it will blacklist the item itself the more reports the higher the risk of selling it, just make lots of stealth accounts. also list as auctions then send out second chance offers that's what i do, you will also find the ceiling your item is worth, you might only sell 1 every other day but it will be twice the price, then think second chance offers, Box Clever

nebuspp 02-10-2012 01:18 AM

If you have a good profit margin and can afford a few dollars to sell more under the radar, couldn't you just list the item as USED and be specific that the item is in GEM MINT NEW PRISTINE condition?

Pringles 02-10-2012 04:10 AM

I have the same issue but I know for a fact that he is selling on 4 accounts. He may even be from this forum......... :mad:


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