How to combine shipping cost without paying FVF?

[Bingo]

A buyer wants to order 2 items and combine shipping costs. How can I combine without paying the FVF?
For example, the item is $30 and shipping cost is $10, and I want to discount $10 on shipping cost for 2 items. After the buyer bids on the item, I will send the bill of 30x2 + 10 = 70 (instead of 30x2 + 10x2 = 80).
If the buyer pays $70, will Ebay/PP charge final value fees on the amount paid by buyer ($70) or on the amount I charge on the listing ($80)?
Thanks.

[rsot]

Eb will charge you fvf based on the amount you sold. They have NO cut on the shipping fee. HOWEVER, PP will charge a cut based on the shipping fee + final amount total. Others will correct me if wrong.

[Thankful]

^^^ rsot is correct.

[Artann]

Wait a second I remember reading something in the ebay news letter that they change this policy a few months back and now they include shipping cost into equation as well. I remember them trying to explain it as it will promote free shipping.

[Bingo]

thanks guys.

[yotano211]

rsot is wrong, FVF now includes shipping fees. Some people would bypass this by charging high shipping fees and low product value, but no more.

[C.Japschin]

Ebay now charges approximately 10% of shipping + FVF

[yotano211]

It should be 100% of shipping and total value of product.

[rsot]

Sorry if I was wrong but let me get this straight then - eb charges fvf on shipping fees AND pp charges commission on shipping fees? Fug.

[C.Japschin]

@rsot
Yup..both charges fees on shipping now.

[newjerseymax]

Yep we get raped on fees everyday...

This site helps a bit...

eBay Fees Calculator 8.2 by Ryan Olbe (updated July 12, 2011)

[yotano211]

Paypal never charged anything for shipping, they just charged at the total amount that goes into the account. It does not matter if it was free shipping or $200 shipping for a $1 item. You get charged for total amount.