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About what?

I said if this person is in fact doing this then we are getting used to help them steal from someone and that my friend is something I do not want to be a part of. I do not think you do either.

IF was my word.

No i'm no thief or con artist PayPal are.

Long Story(i'm going to try to remember as much as possible)

What happened was 6 months ago i received a large payment for two orders and shipped both orders out from my supplier. a few days later my account was limited and both payments where held for review. i provided tracking of the shipped merchandise and the payments where back into my account a few weeks later after them completing there investigation,but my account was limited so i could not withdraw. 5 months later PayPal send me a email stating that the funds were either wasnt authorized or fraudulent so i called them and complained because they waited so long to tell me this and the buyer had the merchandise for months. i had to give them tracking again and they removed the hold again after deciding the transaction was authorized. 2 weeks later i check my paypal and notice that the funds are there the 180 days are up so i withdraw my funds from the order. checked my bank for days still wasnt there. finaly checked my PayPal and what in the world both transactions where reversed and now my stealth account is negative. I Call Them up some guy named antonio told me that i would have to wait until may 21st to withdraw the funds. because some girl i talked to last month from paypal ended my 180 day wait early but said the funds will continue to be held(but they werent so i withdrew.) i call again the next day because i just wasnt satisfied with antonio help because both of my funds were still reversed. When i call they tell me we can't release the funds do to the empty boxes which was a lie or error. i ask to be switched over to someone else and they switched me over to there manager Amy. She tells me the samething i said there must be some kind of mistake and she says i'm going to do you a favor i'm going to relook into this for you and call you back in 24hrs. She calls back the next day at around 10 am and ask for another 24hrs but would like me to speak to the guy from the account review department. low and behold Scott. He's no longer saying i shipped empty boxes(thank God that rumors died) Hes asking questions right off the back no hellos or nothing.

He says.
Scott:Hello Steven this is Scott i will be reviewing your account. I just wanna talk to you a little bit and ask you a few questions. first why do your information on your PayPal account is different from your bank account.
Me:Huh
Scott:I Wanna Know why your Bank account information isnt the same as your paypal.
Me:It Is
Scott:No No it isnt whos bank account is it.
Me:Its my bank account.
Scott:No I called your bank and supplied them with information from your PayPal account and you they told me the information wasn't the same.
(Silence)
Me:Will that is wrong.

He asked me more questions such as my address,supplier contact,phone number,date of birth,if i have a middle name,my current email address,where am i living,how do i find customers,and questioned why i dont have a voicemail. he was like i tried to call you but couldn't get through also you didnt have a voicemail so i found that strange,he said. i said not everyone have a voicemail you know.(stealth tracphone) he told me he would call back in about 24hrs. He called back about 3 days later. He said you will not be getting your money back into your account not today not in 180 days not ever(Just like that ha) and your lucky to have withdrawn so many payments to an account that isnt in your name. I interrupted him saying the account is in my name. He said no its not. He said thats not the only problem why. since your payment was over 250 you was suppose to have signature confirmation. you added tracking without that part and if you read 11:4 under the user agreement you'll know. i argued some more saying this is bull my customer received there under no complaints and still no refund. he said no and your wasting both me and your time. i talked some more and got hanged up on. wow what a tough guy. Also my account did many transactions from eBay and Outside of eBay no opened cases,no reverses,no negative feedback,no claims,no disputes no nothing. perfect account. perfect standing. did everything right. My account was reviewed three times by three different account review teams. the first time it past funds where safe wait 180 days. second time it past they allowed me to withdraw. as soon as i withdrew the third time came and Mr Scott did some research such as contacting my bank like he claimed. i cant sue because hey this isn't my real name. I apologize for the long story and for splitting it up into two threads but i wanted different opinions on two different topics this thread was really about do banks really give information to PayPal. thats all i really wanted to know. but thank you all for your advice. hopefully next month i will be able to withdraw money safely from my other account. it isn't as high risk as this one and i didn't do any transactions outside of eBay. congrats to all who didn't have scott to say wait wait let me try investigating this guy even though we told him he could withdraw his funds twice. :clap: a the end of the day i'm done with this account and jus going to let paypal win this one..............PYSCH, im going to try a few more times but after that im really done. tired of buying more minutes and is just too much.

look, I think they do know it is a different name, but think it is only a small chance they called your bank. Somehow they must have got a small upload of money, either you did it or they took a few cents to check, did you run thru all your transactions?...

now you wanna know how to withdraw, why dont you say look if you dont like this bank, I will add another bank...

how much is held? if it is alot, maybe you can do an EIN in that stealth name or variation and make a bank to match? so if you think they are checking then cannot say anything....

did they get any ID from you? if so they said nothing about that?

As for empty box thing, did they refund buyers? if they didnt, why are they talking about it now, if it is not a dispute then what is their deal? It is like this is an agent who had taken a special interest and I cannot figure out why, with the amount of cases they have.....

some other guy did a thread too in this section he is from Aus, maybe it is getting more common....

Scott has been there a long time. So, your money is gone.

That be ture.

No need his initial.

I alluded to it being the 'big guns'.:fight:

they didnt refund the buyers because they didnt open a dispute. but the main reason i want get a refund now is because the order was over 250 and i ddnt provide signature confirmation only tracking confirmation so make sure you guys do that if you receive payments over 250 because they could be held even if the buyer don't dispute. but i think one of my buyers probably used fraudulent funds and thats why my account was looked at like that.

Is it true though that you can't sue because you've used ⊗⊗⊗⊗ details?

Surely, even if you've used ⊗⊗⊗⊗ details and you own up to that by suing in your own name, they still have no right to keep your money. Keeping your money like that is surely illegal on their part?

⊗⊗⊗⊗ details isn't fraud, it's a breach of T&Cs - you're paying PP for their services not taking money from them under false pretences afterall, surely no different to booking a hotel in a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name.

I can't see any circumstances whereby they have the right to keep your money indefinately..

Yeah i actually gave up. that's one of the negatives of using stealth paypal. paypal reviewer told me they have the right to keep your money after 180 days if they feel its necessary and its in the terms in conditions that must be agreed upon when signing up for PayPal.

heh, instead of wasting another bank account that i had already closed i had paypal mail me a check to another address, showed up fine and i deposited it fine under my own name... :)

But you already had access to that address, correct?

Just be smart and everything will be ok 9 out of 10times. The times that you aren't smart, you pay for it.

My address i received the check at was previously limited on paypal. They didn't care

Do you get the option to choose an address for the check to be sent in? Or do they ship it to your Paypal address on file?