Is there a way to get VCC yourself

[markflood]

lets say you want to verify you address on paypal and charge 1.99 for the expose code. Which cards are the best(that are not flag by paypal) so you don't have to buy one online on some random site that you have to wait sometimes a week to get?

[BigCJ]

Try vanilla visa, but check the expiration date. The later the better.
There is a thread about which numbers work and which do not.

[FizzyFish]

Or try the sellers on here - I have had success using them.

Usually very fast replies.

Look left <---Marketplace

[rsot]

Vanilla Visa or Simon works well - sellers are great, true.

[karmaz]

Where are the sellers getting all the VCC's from?

Obviously there's a free source out there, and we don't know about it.

I've no interest in selling them, but here in the subscriber discussions you'd imagine the sources would be a bit more available.

I know people are making money from it, but seeing as it's (probably) something they get for free, it'd be great to find out.

[slim jim]

karmaz, that was not a very intelligent post, enough said

[karmaz]

Well, duh, I hardly expect the actual vcc sellers to supply this info, but for example, if I ever come across where they get them from, i'll share it here for free.

Perhaps there's others like me who would too.

[GrannyT]

Originally Posted by karmaz

Well, duh, I hardly expect the actual vcc sellers to supply this info, but for example, if I ever come across where they get them from, i'll share it here for free.

Perhaps there's others like me who would too.

Really - I think that's called how to make friends with the people who are part of the back bone of this forum - not.

Definitely not how to make friends and influence people - on a par with finding someones supplier who makes a lot of money and sharing it with all and sundry

Bah!!

[they_screwed_me_too]

Originally Posted by GrannyT

how to make friends and influence people

a 1930's book by dale carnegie and a very worthwhile educational read if i remember correctly

oops how to WIN friends

[karmaz]

Ok, let me make it a little clearer:

I couldn't care less about making friends here. I'm here for info, and generally I get it. Stealth is easy enough really.

VCC's are of course totally necessary, and i'd personally like to see them freely available for folk who are trying to make a living, and want multiple accounts.

Want 20 accounts? Well that's $250 plus to your friendly vcc seller, for something they get for absolutely nothing.

If on the other hand, they pay for them, I wouldn't actually share the source as in my view, that's straight up business ie, buying something and sticking a margin on it.

In my opinion (and I believe we're allowed to have them here, aren't we), I think selling something that cost absolutely nothing, and required no time to create is a just a little bit unscrupulous.

[GrannyT]

Where do you get this idea that they cost nothing? There is no such thing as a free lunch IMO

[they_screwed_me_too]

Originally Posted by karmaz

I couldn't care less about making friends here

where would we be without friends, friends help friends dont they ? if you seem to appear not to want to be someones friend then why would they give (or you accept) their kindly give advice

Originally Posted by karmaz

I think selling something that cost absolutely nothing, and required no time to create is a just a little bit unscrupulous.

what a load of nonsense i sell these products on ebay and i make money GOOD MONEY nothing wrong with that !!!!

its business whether you sell things that cost X amount

or sell things that cost nothing

[karmaz]

I'll counter your question with the question: Where do you get this idea that they actually do cost something?

It's most likely a bank account in some country that allows your to regenerate them on the spot, like neteller used to. One click, new number, repeat x 1000

Anyway, I don't want to get dragged into this. I believe this type of info should be free to people on here. Aged ebay accounts, sure, I see the value and the time put into them, and they're very much worth the money people pay.

And while i'd buy a vcc (and have bought) from a "reseller", I don't like it, simply put, and if we don't agree, we'll have to agree to disagree

[they_screwed_me_too]

thats fair comments

but

if i told you my product that cost /almost ZERO time and ZERO money to produce and you can sell it on ebay for £30 a time then wouldnt you sell it ?

of course you would

[karmaz]

Look in that case, i'd say fair play to you, you're obviously doing something right.

But....

In my view, this is a community, and things like vcc sources which are such an integral part of doing business and stealth, should be shared freely (at least among subscribers who've actually contributed to the site).

I of course, understand why someone who had a source for such in demand items, would want to make a few quid and keep it secret, but it's not what i'd do, as we've all the same goal essentially.

[slim jim]

i like how my comment got deleted...
you use ebay to make $ right? would you like your merchandise for free also? i mean technically a lot of the stuff we buy everyday is marked up 1000%, should i go and complain saying i want it at their cost because we are all in this together?

[karmaz]

Originally Posted by rabbislimjim

i like how my comment got deleted...
you use ebay to make $ right? would you like your merchandise for free also? i mean technically a lot of the stuff we buy everyday is marked up 1000%, should i go and complain saying i want it at their cost because we are all in this together?

Now who look whose posted something (to quote yourself) "not very intelligent".

I suggest you re-read my posts.

[Gamefreak]

Problem is ANYONE can be a sub member. now if you were a MOD or something I can see where that info might be share with you or someone higher up.

Some info are meant to be kept confidential to secure their longevity. If paypal, ebay, amazon or whoever finds out what everyone is using there is a good chance they will block those sources from being used on their site and ruin the entire stealth process for a lot of ppl.

So you see not everything is meant to be public or given out even in the sub area...

gl hoesntly dont expect an anwer or someone giving you what you are looking for.

[lakeman]

Karmaz, WTF did you come up with that vcc's are free??? Bluntly said: You're nuts if you think that..

[GrannyT]

@ Karmaz

I hear what you say

You have been a member of this forum far longer than me

In 4 years you have made 15 posts

I'm fairly sure you didn't intend to start a row but it seems most are set against your view.

You say that you are not here to make friends - OK - I can live with that but I think you can never have too many friends.

You come here for information - yes - that's good - a lot of the information I have gleaned has come from the people who sell accounts and VCCs - and some of them I consider friends.

Because they are (in my opinion) my friends I would not want to do anything that would undermine their business interests.

In return they listen to me when I ask them not to mention certain workarounds that I use on the forum. This has happened many times

It's not that I don't want to share it's that I'm sick of seeing good things go down because muppets come here and abuse the information we give them resulting in good assets being destroyed.

IIt's quid pro quo isn't it?

Think about it

[karmaz]

Originally Posted by GrannyT

It's not that I don't want to share it's that I'm sick of seeing good things go down because muppets come here and abuse the information we give them resulting in good assets being destroyed.

IIt's quid pro quo isn't it?

Think about it

Yep, my intentions certainly aren't hostile, and not intending to upset the apple cart (although I may have a little bit)

I can definitely understand the point about information being abused, and that's not something I had really given full consideration to before you mentioned it.

In fact, that type of abuse is probably the reason vcc providers like neteller cancelled their service in the first place, so you're actually swinging me round to the cartell way of thought

[GrannyT]

What county in Ireland are you? I lived in Kilkee once