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vxmotorsport 12-19-2012 07:41 AM

New stealth limited, but why?
 
I just received 1 payment £70 via ebay on a new stealth purcahsed here and got limited.

But my question is WHY?! :(

Firstly heres the facts...

New ipad
New IP
New bank account

No 21 day hold, 9 feedback already on the ebay account £1 transactions.

I tried to add a new RBS bank account and it failed. I then added another RBS account that went straight on no problems.

Listed 4 items on ebay, used car parts, sold 1 got payment and 10 mins later im limited.

But WHY? :( there cannot be any link to an old account here

GreenBean 12-19-2012 07:45 AM

What was the actual notice?

What did paypal say & what did they ask?

Did you full verify & confirm B4 selling?


New accounts can get this.

vxmotorsport 12-19-2012 07:48 AM

They want confirmation of:

bank account (but the bank is verified?) :/
Validate your account information
Provide proof of delivery
Provide invoices

Paypal email ID PP1589 not sure if that means anything?

oompaloompa 12-19-2012 07:51 AM

it may not be to do with linking, does the notice give any clues...new accs at this time of year can get it or it can happen in clusters with a security push on new accs particularly those that sell real quick after creation, the good news is the limitation can be overcome...

vxmotorsport 12-19-2012 07:52 AM

What sort of clues am I looking for mate?

Fingers crossed its not due to linking as I have done everything to make sure this account is not linked

oompaloompa 12-19-2012 07:53 AM

we need the notice code and if it mentions any reason....

GreenBean 12-19-2012 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vxmotorsport (Post 402458)
They want confirmation of:

bank account (but the bank is verified?) :/
Validate your account information
Provide proof of delivery
Provide invoices

Paypal email ID PP1589 not sure if that means anything?

TBF, that is the usual type of limit when an account is just starting out.

Security is tougher at the moment as well coupled with your category.

Sometimes used motor parts can be problematic.

:pout:

oompaloompa 12-19-2012 07:56 AM

oops missed those vital details...easy to provide, it should work out ok

vxmotorsport 12-19-2012 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oompaloompa (Post 402461)
we need the notice code and if it mentions any reason....

Im not sure there is a code but basically it says...

Dear *****

We need your help resolving an issue with your account. To give us time to work together on this, weve temporarily limited what you can do with your account until the issue is resolved.

We understand it may be frustrating not to have full access to your paypal account. We want to work with you to get your account back to normal as quickly as possible.

For reasons relating to the safe use of the paypal service we need some more information about some of your recent sales.

Reference number: PP-***-***-***-*** (not sure i should put that on an open forum?)

How you can help

Its usually quite straightforward to take care of these things. Most of the time, we just need some more information about your account or latest transactions.

To help us with this and to find out what you can and cant do with your account until the issue is resolved, log in to your account and go to the resolution center.

Yours sincerely,
PayPal

moneyhustler88 12-19-2012 07:59 AM

Mate it might not be because of that payment..
whats the actual message that comes up as soon as you log on to PayPal..

the best advice I can give you is to listen to the senior members..and don't make the mistake I made with my last PP of thinking..eh pp have 100s of accounts they won't notice mine.
.their system has been upped this December (this month) so you have to be even more vigilant than ever with your pp..looking so much as in PayPal's direction and giving them any attention to your account will get it limited..

vxmotorsport 12-19-2012 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 402462)
TBF, that is the usual type of limit when an account is just starting out.

Security is tougher at the moment as well coupled with your category.

Sometimes used motor parts can be problematic.

:pout:

Hopefully a little weight off my shoulders on this account then, we shal soon find out. Didnt want to sort the ID out just yet but hey hoe lets see how it goes

vxmotorsport 12-19-2012 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moneyhustler88 (Post 402468)
Mate it might not be because of that payment..whats the actual message that comes up as soon as you log on to PayPal..the best advice I can give you is to listen to the senior members..and don't make the mistake I made with my last PP of thinking..eh pp have 100s of accounts they won't notice mine..their system has been upped this December (this month) so you have to be even more vigilant than ever with your pp..farting so much as in PayPal's direction and giving them any attention to your account will get it limited..

Your account access has been limited for the following reason(s):

19 Dec 2012: For reasons relating to the safe use of PayPal Service we need some more information about some of your recent sales.

moneyhustler88 12-19-2012 08:06 AM

Right thanks vx,yeah as greenbean and myself said..PP have upped their system bot now and I actually found out this when it slipped a UK PP member's mouth when I called them..as their system was 'running slow' because of the new update.

Like I said you've got fantastic members on here like Greenbean, Roscoe, None Other..they're all EXPERIENCED members who can give you fantastic advice..personally myself I've never known a limitation to be removed..so I would start a fresh..
using one IP address espicially off an iPad in my opinion isn't advised..why not get a tethering service instead?

It's alot more safer..and neccessarily your limitation probably isn't to do with a new account but more the funds you recieve..just PP look at it like this: new account - funds in - RISK RISK RISK..they've got no documentation on you so you could scam or run with the funds..

vxmotorsport 12-19-2012 08:13 AM

I understand what your saying bud, but then how will I ever sell? If I get limited on the first transaction will the same thing not just happen on the next account?

This is getting really frustrating, I am not a scammer I just genuinely want to sell my products online and every time getting stung by the *******s :(

Roscoe 12-19-2012 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vxmotorsport (Post 402474)
I understand what your saying bud, but then how will I ever sell? If I get limited on the first transaction will the same thing not just happen on the next account?

This is getting really frustrating, I am not a scammer I just genuinely want to sell my products online and every time getting stung by the *******s :(

Sorry, but I may have missed this. Was this PP account purchased or was in created by you?

Thanks.

vxmotorsport 12-19-2012 08:17 AM

It was purchased, this is my first transaction on the account

Roscoe 12-19-2012 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vxmotorsport (Post 402476)
It was purchased, this is my first transaction on the account

Is there a reason you can not create your own account?

I've never liked accounts that are created by someone else?

vxmotorsport 12-19-2012 08:20 AM

I have created my own accounts in the past and ended up linked so I went for an easier option and purchased for what I thought would be peace of mind

GTB 12-19-2012 08:29 AM

is this "PP-***-***-***-***" the motor part u sold?

bruceuk 12-19-2012 08:30 AM

As GB has stated used car parts are a nightmare .
My main accounts all deal in car parts .
But ive learned through my own mistakes never to list them on a new account .
I generally list used everyday items sourced from charity shops on new accounts to give the impression your just having a clear out in your home.
Then once settled down use it for my normal business .
This may or may not be your problem but from my experience it certainly was mine .
And if your dealing in used car parts invoices can sometimes be more complicated but all workable.

vxmotorsport 12-19-2012 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTB (Post 402480)
is this "PP-***-***-***-***" the motor part u sold?

How would I tell that bud? Cant see any reference to it in the payment email

GTB 12-19-2012 08:33 AM

pm sent bro

vxmotorsport 12-19-2012 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruceuk (Post 402481)
As GB has stated used car parts are a nightmare .
My main accounts all deal in car parts .
But ive learned through my own mistakes never to list them on a new account .
I generally list used everyday items sourced from charity shops on new accounts to give the impression your just having a clear out in your home.
Then once settled down use it for my normal business .
This may or may not be your problem but from my experience it certainly was mine .
And if your dealing in used car parts invoices can sometimes be more complicated but all workable.

Thats not cool! What about brand new car parts like performance upgrades? As thats the route I was taking this account anyway however I just wanted to list a few things this month to get the ball rolling.

Invoices certainly are a nightmare as I buy alot of parts from scrapyards for cash as I know I can turn it for good profit

vxmotorsport 12-19-2012 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTB (Post 402484)
pm sent bro

Replied :)

bruceuk 12-19-2012 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vxmotorsport (Post 402486)
Thats not cool! What about brand new car parts like performance upgrades? As thats the route I was taking this account anyway however I just wanted to list a few things this month to get the ball rolling.

Invoices certainly are a nightmare as I buy alot of parts from scrapyards for cash as I know I can turn it for good profit

Brand new is not really any better im afraid .. loads of vero aftermarket stuff about and they know it.
I have been known to list new items as used just to try to avoid the ever watching eye but its not a long term solution .
Selling car parts can be very very profitable but its a high risk product for ebay .
Your plan will reap rewards eventually but your just going to have to start off selling things you normally would not look twice at .
And if your buying used parts for cash from scrap yards you better get your photoshop skills honed .

GreenBean 12-19-2012 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vxmotorsport (Post 402474)
I understand what your saying bud, but then how will I ever sell? If I get limited on the first transaction will the same thing not just happen on the next account?

This is getting really frustrating, I am not a scammer I just genuinely want to sell my products online and every time getting stung by the *******s :(

'Hustler86 is doing a lot of sucking up at the moment. He's grovelling. He knows why too. Dont be put-off by his silliness. ffs

99% sure this is a paypal limitation based of their perceived risk factors.

Until your account is matured, paypal will give you the run around.

vxmotorsport 12-19-2012 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruceuk (Post 402491)
Brand new is not really any better im afraid .. loads of vero aftermarket stuff about and they know it.
I have been known to list new items as used just to try to avoid the ever watching eye but its not a long term solution .
Selling car parts can be very very profitable but its a high risk product for ebay .
Your plan will reap rewards eventually but your just going to have to start off selling things you normally would not look twice at .
And if your buying used parts for cash from scrap yards you better get your photoshop skills honed .

Hmmm thats not good :( I have a mate with 2000 feedback purely selling car parts, his account is 3 years old, just not fair lol.

I will have to look at other products, I have a few stealths but my line of products is car parts

vxmotorsport 12-19-2012 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 402492)
'Hustler86 is doing a lot of sucking up at the moment. He's grovelling. He knows why too. Dont be put-off by his silliness. ffs

99% sure this is a paypal limitation based of their perceived risk factors.

Until your account is matured, paypal will give you the run around.

:nerd: :bounce: :nerd:

Shal I fight it or move on?

moneyhustler88 12-19-2012 08:59 AM

Not sucking upto any GB, just stating facts. Just because i've pretty much taken my own steps with PP, doesn't mean new members have to either. I'd say it's more am wising upto and learning from my pp mistakes.
It's good to see GB is helping you out with this..as GB said (which was pretty much what I said anyway)..new accounts are seen as a risk, it's all do to due with risk factors..Why don't you get a stealth/create one yourself and follow the steps of the stealth guide? Let it mature like GB says and also take Bruce's advice..sell a few small items from charity etc..and then once it's matured a while start selling the car parts etc..this would seem alot less risky for PP and with the maturity of the account mean less limitations so fast.

crow 12-19-2012 09:00 AM

The account could be linked with an old one, see here where a user got an email with the same code.

vxmotorsport 12-19-2012 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moneyhustler88 (Post 402496)
Not sucking upto any GB, just stating facts. Just because i've pretty much taken my own steps with PP, doesn't mean new members have to either. I'd say it's more am wising upto and learning from my pp mistakes.
It's good to see GB is helping you out with this..as GB said (which was pretty much what I said anyway)..new accounts are seen as a risk, it's all do to due with risk factors..Why don't you get a stealth/create one yourself and follow the steps of the stealth guide? Let it mature like GB says and also take Bruce's advice..sell a few small items from charity etc..and then once it's matured a while start selling the car parts etc..this would seem alot less risky for PP and with the maturity of the account mean less limitations so fast.

Like stated matey I do have other accounts that are not currently being used, I am letting them age a little before using them I will have to list a few non risk items.

I never knew used car parts were such high risk :(

vxmotorsport 12-19-2012 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crow (Post 402498)
The account could be linked with an old one, see here where a user got an email with the same code.

I saw that, that is why i posted saying I dont see any way how they would have linked me as I searched that code before posting

bruceuk 12-19-2012 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vxmotorsport (Post 402493)
Hmmm thats not good :( I have a mate with 2000 feedback purely selling car parts, his account is 3 years old, just not fair lol.

I will have to look at other products, I have a few stealths but my line of products is car parts

Doesnt matter what your main product line is ..
It doesnt work like that .
I sell high end exotic car parts that average £750 per item .
But my stealths are selling junk at £5 per item .
You cant expect to fund your life from new stealths .
Its a waiting game .

moneyhustler88 12-19-2012 09:03 AM

I think Bruce gave you the best advice personally..and GB is always saying to me let accounts age..so think thats probably what your next step is..you can always fight PP, if you don't win then you've not lost anything..as the accounts already limited..is this a stealth account or real?

vxmotorsport 12-19-2012 09:08 AM

Stealth, always stealth ;)

vxmotorsport 12-19-2012 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruceuk (Post 402501)
Doesnt matter what your main product line is ..
It doesnt work like that .
I sell high end exotic car parts that average £750 per item .
But my stealths are selling junk at £5 per item .
You cant expect to fund your life from new stealths .
Its a waiting game .

I hear what your saying... Out of interest what car parts do you sell for exotic cars?

That is an expensive line to be in!

bruceuk 12-19-2012 09:22 AM

Not sure its relevant !
I dismantle exotics .. lambos ferraris porsches anything high end .
But ive done my time in the scrap yards many years ago and enjoyed every minute of it.
And in answer to your next question no i dont have a flash car .. i have a land rover.

vxmotorsport 12-19-2012 09:24 AM

:lol: Dont worry I work with performance cars, not exotic, but big turbos etc, however I currently dont even have a car as a lovely women wrote it off for me a few weeks back... Bring on my payout :cheer:

But back to the subject, I am not sure if I should fight this account or just move on.

If its move on my next question is how do I reset the ipad ready for a new account, obviously new sim for new IP but do I need to factory reset the ipad and rename it etc?

bruceuk 12-19-2012 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vxmotorsport (Post 402508)
:lol: Dont worry I work with performance cars, not exotic, but big turbos etc, however I currently dont even have a car as a lovely women wrote it off for me a few weeks back... Bring on my payout :cheer:

But back to the subject, I am not sure if I should fight this account or just move on.

If its move on my next question is how do I reset the ipad ready for a new account, obviously new sim for new IP but do I need to factory reset the ipad and rename it etc?

I dont see it as fighting pp .
Give them what they have asked for .
If it works great , If it doesnt well you will know for next time.

vxmotorsport 12-19-2012 09:33 AM

My view is always this game is a fight against paypal as eventually they always win, well so far thats the case lol.

I will provide the info they want so I will let people know


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