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Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 544933)
You can not, and can never expect rock solid and paypal to be a union.
At best, you can use paypal wherever you like but must operate with the background thought, paypal has the power to limit an account.
Try not to be naive with regards to them.
:nono:
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Originally Posted by BigCJ
(Post 544959)
The answer has been posted here repeatedly.
Avoid paypal at all cost. You will MOST LIKELY BECOME LIMITED due to the age and sum.
YOU need to be the one to dictate the sale. NOT the buyer. If they do not want to use bank transfer (Fees or not) then its best to AVOID the sale altogether.
If they want it bad enough, they will use another method.
Even as sent as a gift, if your account is limited, you will either have to provide documents, or wait 180 days. Even if sent as a gift. There have been instances where gifts can be reversed.
To go against EVERYONE just to hear the answer you want to hear is just beyond me with your experience/posts
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Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 544986)
We advise using PayPal in the correct way, which is not the way you are trying to do it.
You need to build trust with PayPal. That takes time.
An account that is years old can handle a transaction worth £1000's
An account 5 minutes old generally cannot.
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I hear you all, I really do..
Just frustrating to see regular people on forums with likely sparse eb purchase and pp use just selling their gear of a similar value, taking gift payments via forum sales or specialist advertising websites and then not having any problems whatsoever.
Surely a GOOD stealth character will be indistinguishable from a real person and so, at some point, a stealth account can be used in exactly the same way?
Perhaps what I'm overlooking here is that ALL these people have multi-year aged accounts and engage in activity which links everything they do to their real IDs, like making purchases from their bank account funds so that their name is received and confirmed from the bank, electoral role etc.
So.. perhaps my underlying thinking is about how to go deeper stealth, make everything absolutely believable rather than the usual acceptance that something WILL go wrong and therefore accepting the compromise between quicker account creation over long term survival..
Of course, part of the psychology of a REAL account IS one of naivety - the once bitten, twice shy attitude of all of us who have been limited is absolutely NOT the psychology of a genuine account holder. Becoming limited and recovering from it is probably part and parcel of a genuine account ... Recreating a false sense of naivety in the eyes of PP could make the account much stronger in the long term.
A REAL GENUINE PP user WOULD quickly join PP and accept the payment, get limited and then fight to have the funds released. With real ID and scrutiny, that new customer would no doubt eventually get hold of their funds even after long arguments and end up with an account completely confirmed and verified albeit after being told by PP that they need to build trust in the account..
How does one recreate that experience of a naive but GENUINE PP customer via stealth? That brings me back to the OP, the reason behind the thread if not concisely expressed at the outset.
But hey, sounds more like an art project rather than being practical for just making money.
P.S. Multi-quote doesn't seem to work. Is it my PC? had to cut and paste the quotes myself.
P.P.S With regard to customers insisting on PP being dodgy, I really don't see how that is different from the seller insisting on a bank transfer which can be seen by the customer as being dodgy. There is risk on both sides without a genuine independent escrow service out there. Each situation is nuanced and blanket refusal to accept any risk yourself only serves many to see you as dodgy or at least unreasonable in a hobbyist market..
