Inside scoop on Auto Limit Increase

[Callidus]

Originally Posted by Callidus

I wouldn't advise calling in once you have established an account with feedback as you are then more likely to be asked for invoices.

I don't think I do need to be more descriptive as I clearly stated in my original post what I was referring to. See above.

[GreenBean]

Entire thread is perilous.

Nothing in writing from an ebay staffer would make me change my practises.

[Hercules]

I get an increase on any new/old non-flagged accts just by listing a certain product that is so bland they give you increases right off the start. Sorry as usual no tell, no talky.

I'm not cool or too smart I just stumbled upon it selling stuff from my drawer.

[unkown5454]

Originally Posted by Callidus

I don't think I do need to be more descriptive as I clearly stated in my original post what I was referring to. See above.

Your original post is coming from multiple directions that don't coincide with each other.

For example, n00bs would have no clue how to call T&S to ask questions and raise limits. That is not a n00b method.

Some of what you recommend people to do will raise flags on a new account.

[black_label]

Originally Posted by just_smile

I'm not sure whats more breathtaking, the op's arrogance or naiveity.

Never beleive a word ebay reps say. They make it up to get you off the phone. Infact, they often tell you things that openly break ebays rules and regulations.

To beleive you have inside knowledge based on what one said, is frankly laughable.

The fast that is laughable is that you take the term "inside scoop" quite literally.

The point is, having 100 accounts at 10/1000 is worthless. It’s just impractical in my eyes. I would rather lose a 10/1000 account trying to get a higher limit than actually sell items on it. The fact that you think they make things up to get you off the phone is ignorant. For the most part, I hate calling eBay. I hate calling into customer service in any situation because half of the time I am greeted by a rep named “Shequifa” that is very rude, abrasive and does try to get you off the phone as quickly as possible. Frankly, this is not why I hate calling into eBay.

I hate calling into eBay because they have so many rules and policies that not a single one of their reps could possibly have knowledge of everything. THAT is why they are erroneous in most of the things they tell you, not because they want to get you off the phone. eBay is not the KGB people, they will not come to your home and kick down your front door if you call them. If selling on 100 accounts at 10/1000 is your thing, go for it. Frankly, I do not have the time nor the patience to do so. Selling at 10 items over the course of a month just makes you look like someone who is not interested in selling more than this amount on eBay, THAT is why many of you don't get increases. There are plenty of eBay users that sell at that limit for years because that's all they need. They're old and they go to garage sales on weekends and resell on eBay.


And to refute many of your claims, I spoke with the Senior Director, Trust and Safety Department at eBay Inc. I was able to get this phone call because I am a shareholder. So please, stop thinking of my as a naive teenager. I am well into my late 20's have been very blessed and successful in my life. The message I am trying to get accross here, is that you will never get anywhere in any setting unless you go after it.

[black_label]

Originally Posted by GreenBean

Please be more careful saying this.

You are posting a picture to complete nebwies that this is easily done.

It took you a real long time to learn to have everything in order.....

let's hope that message is getting across.

I go along with Dmshark.

Better to run the accounts carefully and avoid having them flagged.

That's all that needed to be said, I agree. If you call ebay you better be ready to provide EVERY possible thing that they ask for at that moment. If you're not capable of doing that, then do not call.

[Dmshark25]

You can be aggressive without being loud , pushy and flashy, all things that will get you noticed and being noticed is not a good thing with eBay

You may start off with a 100 accounts with limits of 100/5000 each but if you got them limits by making waves and talking too much and marking yourself than those accounts are more likely to get restricted, one they are noticed by eBay and some can be looked at as a risk

Also by pushing limits every month and selling volume on each account you get noticed by competition , and scammers, and just jealous people that don't like to see people succeed

I realize you don't see it his way but your methods single your accounts out to everyone , and even though you are starting out with high limits you are now battering eBay, your competitors, buyers, and just crazy people that will flag you just because they are not making money

Now on the other hand the quiet guy with those 100 accounts with limits 10/1000 each, is sitting back working hard and keeping quiet and as you said yourself looks like someone just selling a few things here and there and not a real seller.

Now fast forward just 90 days ahead , while your big accounts are taking hits , the quiet seller is now getting automated raises and those 10/1000 accounts are jumping to 100/5000. 100/10,000, 300/30,0000, and so on

I have tried going all out in the beginning and being patient and every time patient wins the race here. All those 10/1000 accounts have big jumps beyond the 100/5000 that sometimes when u get to start tend to stay that way for longer.

In my experience the slower the start the faster and stronger the growth

[black_label]

I can respect your method, thanks for taking the time to make a logical reply. To each his own as the saying goes. Honestly, restricting my original account has been the best thing that eBay has done for me because now I can really begin to sell the volume I want. I see where you are coming from with respect to making waves. However, at this point for me, losing an account is not a concern. It seemed like the end of the world when they restricted my main account before, but now I know better.

By all means I'm not trying to promote anyone to be wreck less, I'm just providing other points of views and ideas which is the foundation of forums.

[Dmshark25]

Whatever works for yourself just go with.

The thing is in this forum , there are many new users that don't even know what an IP address is

So you may be more advanced so keep that in mind, the direction we like to tell other members is the safe road, least risk, so that they have better chance of success

Than as members gain experience and knowledge they will try more riskier things that will yield higher reward if they choose

But in open forum you need to assume you are speaking to all beginners and you can't promote risky behavior, you may know how to maneuver and make things work out but 99% of new users will get burned

[black_label]

Ahhh, I see. Thanks for detailing that for me. That's true, I'm relatively new to stealth accts but I'm pretty avid in anything computer related. I didn't think of it that way. Thanks again

[Dmshark25]

Also no reason to tell everyone all your tricks . There is a nice group of experienced members here that have a lot of knowledge of how to run accounts , make accounts , etc,..

If someone is serious about selling online than eventually they will learn the little tricks of the trade , there is no need to reveal everything and ruin it.

The things to share are the basics to get up and running , and than all the other good things depends on the commitment of the member , and whether they have the will and desire to want to build there business and develop there craft of making accounts and operating stealthy

[slokor]

I held my tongue for the last few hours but Im sorry I have to say it.
Youre full of crap. Im sure others reading this thread are thinking the same thing.
You claim to be new yet at the same time make all of these boastful statements - most of which are completely wrong. To top it off you use offensive words towards other forums members left right and center. You are arrogant. You are pushy. Youre annoying.
To sum it up you are one big douchebag.
You need to learn humility and respect for those on here who have been doing this long before you even started on ebay. And claiming after the fact it was a 'joke' is not an excuse and certainly not an apology - and I believe you owe quite a few people on here an apology for your posts and responses to theirs.

Originally Posted by black_label

Ahhh, I see. Thanks for detailing that for me. That's true, I'm relatively new to stealth accts but I'm pretty avid in anything computer related. I didn't think of it that way. Thanks again

[pokerpro]

Slokor...I agree with all you said, but you left one word out.......delusional.

[pokerpro]

P.S.....wreck less (really??)........is: reckless

[andreibest]

i really dont know why every one is so scared to call ebay and ask for a selling limit increase, i call them every time and every time they increase my selling limit with out asking for id etc. All you need is to have a fully verified paypal account, a few positive feedback's and when you call them answer their questions fast and with confidence and you will get a limit increase every time without any request for ids etc...

[pokerpro]

How many folks here have had a different experience than andreibest....I'm raising my hand right now. The UK must be vastly different when it comes to asking for limits, be glad you aren't here in the U.S....you wouldn't have many accounts still active.

[Sandy D]

Originally Posted by black_label

The fast that is laughable is that you take the term "inside scoop" quite literally.

The point is, having 100 accounts at 10/1000 is worthless. It’s just impractical in my eyes.

This comment is actually silly.

I have taken 100's of those 10-1000 accounts and turned them into powehouse no limit accounts, high limit accounts etc by not even calling the majority of them at all.

Right now I am pushing 500 of my own sellers accounts all build from baby stealths to powerhouse and 2013 was a RECORD in sales in both number of items sold and dollars.

Issue is newbies see you saying to call and they are not prepared to answer the questions.

[JumpingJean]

I have to admit, I have called several times on different stealths and each time had limits raised from 10/750 to 100/7500 or 200/8000 within 5 minutes of being on the phone. No id has been needed, no questions asked. However that was a few months ago, I have not done it since, as I haven't had any new accounts till now.

[MM78]

And you have done this with how many US Accounts?

Originally Posted by andreibest

i really dont know why every one is so scared to call ebay and ask for a selling limit increase, i call them every time and every time they increase my selling limit with out asking for id etc. All you need is to have a fully verified paypal account, a few positive feedback's and when you call them answer their questions fast and with confidence and you will get a limit increase every time without any request for ids etc...

[GhostWhoWalks]

Limits come in after 3 months of first sale on that date.

If you sold 2 items each month then forget it you don't need and won't get hight limits.

If you sell 7 per month for 3 months and you have at least 60 or 70% feedback left positive then yes you'll get it up there.

Last year on my 1st dozen stealths I had called in for each one of them. Some accounts within 3 days, some got limits of 50 some 100 some 240 etc. Depends who you get and how it goes. I had one rep tell me on one of my accounts and put me down saying I was in a hard market and I have a new account and I'll never get higher limits on newer account and they have never done that. I just wanted to tell him off and what I think of him but I never did I kept it cool played like a noob on EB and said alright thank you for the info and left it alone. That account did get it's own raise after months. I didn't care to work harder on that one as I have 4 dozen accounts now. If I need to build feedback I do it, if I need to work on something I take my slow time.

Selling FAST & HARD? Yeah sounds like a triple X title! I've read stories of people on here who had their accounts closed just because they sold too many times way to fast!

Was this rep from India by any chances and sounded like he use to work for AOL customer service? Just saying don't believe a word they tell you. I've had reps tell me it's not possible for a few things when I've done it 10 times over already! Great share for you but you'll learn along the way.

Welcome to the site.

P.S. Something that might work for you might not work for others. Depending on the country, aged account, feedback, rating of the account, verified etc

Good Luck everyone.

[Omgoozle]

Although I won't full-out vouch for BL, I will say that he's a nice guy. The posts he's making aren't the flame-bait you guys are making it out to be, and if he really is the "delusional arrogant newbie" you all think he is then maybe you should take a few deep breaths before replying and try to make your posts as helpful and PC as possible.

From the outside, this conversation looks like this:

BL: HAY GUYZ IM DOING THIS AND ITS AWESOME RARRRRR! TRY IT!
Forum: Newbie! Flame! Go away! Annoying! I'm moar expereineced than you! (click thank button many times)
BL: ***backpedal***
Forum: NO BACKPEDALING! WE STILL HATE YOU!
BL + DM Shark: Lets stop insulting each other and have a constructive conversation!

There are so many things that are in question here that no one should be jumping to conclusions, BL included. For all we know he's selling bulk, unbranded paper pulp or some other business-related item that we "experienced" sellers have never thought of and his lack of restrictions is category based.

....maybe he's buying an entirely new land line for each of his accounts that he's making. He already said the only reason he got the call was bc he's a shareholder, and I'm not sure how many shares of stock I need to buy to get treatment like this but I might start doing it.

All I'm saying is, BL isn't the only one playing the jump-to-conclusions game. Just because someone takes a moment to post an alternative idea does not give the rest of the community an open-season pass to rip on them.

Anyway - BL congrats on your success and I hope that your methods continue to work for you as well as they have been. I'm looking forward to your future contributions and I think you'll be a helpful, but slightly reckless member. Kind've like the lovable exact opposite of rsot.



....and in further defense of BL, I will openly say that I sound like a complete prick on the phone and I almost always get nailed with ID requests. I have a buddy who used to do sales calls and he is able to sweet-talk a rep into thinking it's acceptable to sell porno in the "Americana" section (true story) on an unverified account with no sales history. Seriously. These things happen.

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by Omgoozle

Although I won't full-out vouch for BL, I will say that he's a nice guy. The posts he's making aren't the flame-bait you guys are making it out to be, and if he really is the "delusional arrogant newbie" you all think he is then maybe you should take a few deep breaths before replying and try to make your posts as helpful and PC as possible.

Everything is the sum of the WHOLE.

One post makes no user a star or a saint.