3 paypal accounts limited ???????

[rsot]

Originally Posted by GreenBean

Take into consideration that there is a Corporation involved, not the man in the street.

We are not privy to any contractual relations that paypal has with this company.

Expect the worst and hope for the best.

Public relation specialist

[Ebayorbust]

Donkeykong you are absolutely right that a bureau search can produce a nil result due to someone recently moving house. That is why they will request the documents for checking.

This is where aged accounts are going to be at risk. It just isnt realistic for someone that apparently lived at an address for x amount of years to have zero info on a bureau search. The bank account attached to the paypal would at least show up for starters.

We dont know for sure what we are up against as yet but it certainly isnt going to be easy if it is possible.

[Mrjame]

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

Docs will start to need to be submited via webcam

Can't believe one day PayPal will do that. It reminds me about coin.mx. They requires verification of identity by submitting a video holding a government issued ID :D.

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by Mrjame

Can't believe one day PayPal will do that. It reminds me about coin.mx. They requires verification of identity by submitting a video holding a government issued ID :D.

entropay use webcam.

[Mrjame]

Originally Posted by GreenBean

entropay use webcam.

Yeah, but they only scan the card, not the person holding card. The purpose of card scanning is to verify the number on the card match with the number we enter.

[JamesNorth101]

They may well use facelink on PayPal which means the photo on the card will need to match the person who is holding the cards face.

[donkeykong2012]

Yes I understand.

I still think all this is based on risk, sales volume and history more than anything else. Someone who is turning over a lot of cash with no known credit history is a high risk.

I think aged accounts are at most risk as you say.

I only have only a few items on each stealth and I plan to keep it that way. Spread the risk and hope for the best.

Thinking about it I know a number of people who are not on the Electoral Roll at their current address, and if they have online statements there will be no record of them having an account at their current address. And theres no reason why that would change.

Someone could be at an address for many years with no Electoral Roll history. It is possible and does happen, however if I were Paypal I would be concerned about the risk to me, bankruptcy etc.

And that depends on a large range of factors based on the operation of the account.

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust

Donkeykong you are absolutely right that a bureau search can produce a nil result due to someone recently moving house. That is why they will request the documents for checking.

This is where aged accounts are going to be at risk. It just isnt realistic for someone that apparently lived at an address for x amount of years to have zero info on a bureau search. The bank account attached to the paypal would at least show up for starters.

We dont know for sure what we are up against as yet but it certainly isnt going to be easy if it is possible.

[sugarlaces]

I had many stealths with few items on each, different categories too thinking I am not keeping my eggs all in one basket.
Unfortunately for me that didnt work just made the pile up and devasation of losing them all at once worse.

Originally Posted by donkeykong2012

I only have only a few items on each stealth and I plan to keep it that way. Spread the risk and hope for the best.


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[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by Mrjame

Yeah, but they only scan the card, not the person holding card. The purpose of card scanning is to verify the number on the card match with the number we enter.

The FACE of the account holder is seen.

[donkeykong2012]

If you lost them all at the same time it seems reasonable to conclude you were linked in some way.

Originally Posted by sugarlaces

I had many stealths with few items on each, different categories too thinking I am not keeping my eggs all in one basket.
Unfortunately for me that didnt work just made the pile up and devasation of losing them all at once worse.

[JamesNorth101]

Originally Posted by GreenBean

The FACE of the account holder is seen.

Not yet sure that they will be using Facelink

Only time will tell.

[donkeykong2012]

I had to hold my Visa card up against a Webcam when I verified my Entropay account.

I wasn't very happy about having to do this.

Of course the Entropay account is in my real name.

Can you imagine the reaction if Paypal wanted everyone who failed Electoral Roll checks to submit a Webcam image of their face with their driving license as well?

Many would just not even bother.

[CCJay]

Yes but how many won't bother 1-5% maybe they take the risk on that. Funny how all this consides with ebay and paypal splitting up. Or it that me thinking too much into it

[JamesNorth101]

PP and EB split in the US.

PP and EB have been differnet companies in the UK for a while already.

I think if they want everyone to provide webcam shots of the ID and bills ect ect then they will be loosing a fair number of customers who will not be willing to do that.

[donkeykong2012]

I have been reading the comments again from numerous people stating they have lost a few Paypal accounts at the same time.

This appears to have occurred within the last few days.

Which suggests they have linked them in some way probably using a new form of detection. Or they have decided to be more aggressive in linking using existing resources.

However, if Paypal believe that two or more accounts are linked for whatever reason and therefore controlled by the same individual, then no ID submitted is likely to save the account.

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

I think if they want everyone to provide webcam shots of the ID and bills ect ect then they will be loosing a fair number of customers who will not be willing to do that.

Plus might be that Civil Liberties in the UK might become vocal here. Has happened some years back.


A waiting game.

[Blighty]

Originally Posted by donkeykong2012

I have been reading the comments again from numerous people stating they have lost a few Paypal accounts at the same time.

This appears to have occurred within the last few days.

Which suggests they have linked them in some way probably using a new form of detection. Or they have decided to be more aggressive in linking using existing resources.

However, if Paypal believe that two or more accounts are linked for whatever reason and therefore controlled by the same individual, then no ID submitted is likely to save the account.

Yes it's probably linkage in the way they were setup, then triggered a verification of the docs

It may be worth those those who have been limited banding together to see if there are any similarities between their accounts which may have triggered these limitations.

[frksmth]

I lost a paypal account yesterday. No reason given. Was trying to upgrade a personal account with no limits to a premier account. I bought that account here. I guessed that it should be the ID docs or something similar that triggered the suspension.

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Update:
I just noticed that another paypal account of mine was suspended 3 days ago. Wasn't even using it. The last eBay sale was about a month ago. I'm beginning to think that its because of the failure to pass the identification check because of no credit history...

[Ebayorbust]

Originally Posted by Blighty

Yes it's probably linkage in the way they were setup, then triggered a verification of the docs

It may be worth those those who have been limited banding together to see if there are any similarities between their accounts which may have triggered these limitations.

The similarities between the accounts are:-

1. Gmail
2. The VCC added.
3. The IP range used to create the accounts (3 mobile)
4. The IP used to access the accounts subsequently.

For those that are looking to try and apportion blame for their Paypal account(s) going down, might want to consider the following:

Many of the accounts I have sold in the last 2 years have been used to pedal large quantities of both counterfeit and unlicensed goods. A proportion of others have also been used for what can only be described as out and out theft, leaving the Paypal balances sitting with huge negatives.

All it takes is for someone either with Paypal or one of these new companies that are involved with Paypal to look for accounts with these similar characteristics. If they then run credit bureau checks against all these accounts and the results ALL comes back with no data, what do you think they are going to do? They get flagged as high risk and get closed.

The accounts that were lost are only a tiny fraction of what has been sold in the last two years. Most of you have made some serious money with these accounts, some even by selling totally legit items.

If anyone on here has any grievance with me regarding their account, feel free to drop me a PM and we can discuss it in private as opposed to on the open forum.

There is still a lot of "what ifs" regarding what's coming in. Whether what happened here is directly related to that or as a result of what I have suggested here as one alternative possibility, we will never know. If accounts set up had been "linked" in the traditional way, the norm is for them to state what account it is linked to as opposed to a permanent limitation due to being unable to "confirm identity".

[donkeykong2012]

A very good post EbayorBust.

Very thought provoking.

You might be on to something there.

That would actually make sense if some accounts bought off you were used for very high profile criminal activity.

Any other accounts with similarities at account creation would be red flagged.

Ebayorbust, my comment was not aimed at you.

I was talking generically, because if we found the likely cause then I could prevent it from happening to me.

I have never bought an account from you.